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@JayHawkFanToo Here it is. Jesse Newell article from 11/27. Make sure you have recently cleared your cookies or the KCStar site limits your access. I tried to cut and paste it but there were major frustrating format issues. My phone was starting to smoke, or maybe it was coming out of my ears.
http://www.kansascity.com/sports/college/big-12/university-of-kansas/article117438783.html
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@Crimsonorblue22 said:
Seeding had nothing to do w/court size. There are options.
Please read the article. Options were severely limited. Might be a good incentive to build a 4500 seat site.
The football team could possibly get their first sellout in years there, too!
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@JayHawkFanToo I understand what your saying for sure - - BUT still think itâs wrong. Again I mean the ladies have every goal so far they have sit out to do. Be in the top 10 nationally, de-thorne Texas from their 5 year rein as big 12 champs and Iâm sure personal goals also. Which by the way while I think about it Congrads to Kelsi for being named BIG 12 Player of the year in volleyball WTG , great job.
But back to what I was saying STILL this is our reward for the long over all season? â Top 10 all year, - -26-2 - - - Big 12 champs & split with Texas? - -our reward? - - if we win our 1st 3 then we face off with them - -AGAIN on their home floor - -just doesnât seem right to me, no matter how you spin it, but itâs all gravy - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@mayjay still has no bearing on seeding. Thatâs the article I was referring too. If we continue to win they may not except our bid. I remember when we played at expo center- Topeka a couple of years ago. Seems like I heard they may add on in the future, just enough to qualify
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@jayballer54 I think @DanR helped you last time?
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@Crimsonorblue22 HmmmâŚMaybe I was reading between the lines. I know the NCAA has a history of adjusting seeds for logistical reasons. I thought the âproblems for KU hosting the second weekendâ was a reference to that, otherwise I didnât see the relevance to the long discussion of problems if it simply goes to a better seed.
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@mayjay thatâs right but doesnât change your seeding
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@Crimsonorblue22 @JayHawkFanToo
Apparently my conclusions are not shared by our coach:
From a LDJ article on Sunday I wish I had seen before: âŚ
Bechard laughed off any suggestion that the selection committee might have given Texas the nod over Kansas because it has a facility available for all time slots for the regional round.
âNo way, they are going to seed them one through 16 and then figure out who can host and who canât host,â Bechard said. âŚ
Well, when you are wrong it is good to get it settled, no?
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@mayjay trust me, Iâm always right!
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@Crimsonorblue22 Well, no duh!
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@mayjay glad we have that cleared up. Texass might get knocked off before they get to us. They have some big assssss gals. KU is having a good year vs texass so far!
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and soon to be
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I have no doubt that the team was disappointed by the seeding but it was based on RPI and SOS; Texas was #2 and KU was #6.
"Thereâs more that goes into it, though. KU coach Ray Bechard admitted that heâd spent a lot of time trying to pick out strong nonconference foes to help his teamâs RPI, and many of those squads didnât perform as expected."
As a result, the last RPI posted on NCAA.com had Texas second and KU sixth.
Unfortunately, KUâs opponents did not perform overall as well as Texas; nothing anyone can do about it.
As you know, programs schedule opponents with an eye on the RPI. KU Basketball, according to HC Self, has one of the best schedulers in the business in projecting where teams will be and scheduling accordingly; consequently KU always end up with a very high SOS and a a good RPI resulting from winning most of those games. Look at it this way, the season before last KU and ISU split in menâs basketball in the regular season and ISU beat KU in the Conference tournament and won the title; however, KU had a #2 seed and ISU a #3 since KU had the better RPI. Like I said, it happens all the time and sometimes you benefit from it and some times you donâtâŚ
Would I have liked to see KU as the #4 seed? abso-frigging-lutely YES. Do I feel KU got shafted by the NCAA? Emotions would lead me to say yes, but the numbers and logic -in my opinion- would seem to indicate no.
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@JayHawkFanToo give it up, canât change my mind!
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Careful, when @Crimsonorblue22 starts flinging emojis youâre toast.I know. Look at what happened to me. She even went back and changed Sunday newspaper stories! The woman has no peer.
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You gotta love @Crimsonorblue22, no body loves KU more than she doesâŚshe is also the de-facto forum mom that keeps us all unruly kids in line.
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@JayHawkFanToo tough job! I have 2 great boys to show for it!
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@Crimsonorblue22 Can I have the keys and some money?
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@mayjay speaking of the keys, last week I had a mouse run across my feet on my way to work. I yelled! Was barely out of the drive so not going to fast. Slammed it into park and jumped out. Opened the doors and back, saw him come out from under pass. Side and go up under dash. Went on and didnât look down. A guy at work looked around and couldnât find anything. He was chewing on a scarf. Couple of years ago while getting my car serviced my in cabin filter was full of dog food. Dog food secured now. Caught a few in the garage but I think I have one living under the hood.
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Be very careful with mice; they will chew wiring like there is no tomorrow and they can get through the smallest openings.
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@JayHawkFanToo so what do I do?
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Make sure mice is gone and all openings from engine compartment to inside the car are sealed so you donât get them again. Here is a link to a video with suggestions.
. You can find lots of videos on YouTube with instructions on how to get rid of mice in cars.
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@JayHawkFanToo Iâm sure this will be right up my alley
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@Crimsonorblue22 I had an old 1969 Rambler that depended on the mice under the hood to turn the treadmill. Early version of a hybrid.
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I had a mouse destroy the wiring harness to my work truck. Apparently it was crawling up under the hood for warmth when I parked at the shed. The mice have all since been killed at the shed. Letâs just say it was fumigated.
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The difference between a four and a five seed in this tournament is huge. If it were on a neutral court it wouldnât be a big deal, but this gives Texas home field in games 3-4 that KU should have. And we all know the girls love to play at Horejsi. Itâs a disservice to the hard work they did in the regular season to do so.
The selection committees too often rely upon RPI to do their job. I donât know enough about volleyball to be objective, but in general Iâd take body of work + confernce champion + eye test over RPI/BPI/BSPI.
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Even if KU was the overall #4 seed, it could not have been able to play the regional at Horejsi since it does not meet the NCAA guidelines. KU looked at Topeka Convention Center, Municipal Auditorium and Sprint Center in KC and they were all booked as was AFH. The only way to play at AFH was to get a special variance from the NCAA to change game and practice times. If KU was the #4 seed and advanced, it would most likely have had to play at the locations of the next lower seed in its bracket anyway, so all of this is really moot.
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@JayHawkFanToo ask the team if itâs a moot pt? Did you play sports?
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@mayjay Good points, even if we may differ on taking over a thread with an outside topicâŚwhich, of course Iâm guilty of partaking in myself from time to time.
You do make great points about âre-livingâ awful traumatic experiences. I do help at a VA, & it is indeed notable how many suffer from PTSD from either battlefield scenarios, or military sexual trauma, that indeed happens, as Im sure you are aware. I do thank you for helping those so affected. And thank you for your service, sir!
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@JayHawkFanToo Playing at Texas or a neutral court that KU has a hand in picking, hmmâŚ
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@Crimsonorblue22 Put poison in your car, this time a year we get a ton of cars with mice trouble, Iâve seen some nasty things that can happen when they get into the blower motor. Believe me you never wanna clean that mess or chase wires that they may have chewed thru.
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@kjayhawks like where? And what kind? Iâm a real mechanical genius! I did put steering wheel fluid in last week!
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@Crimsonorblue22 put some around you air box, also if you have a garage go buy a sonic mouse preventer, you can get them at Walmart they plug in to the wall and make a noise that bugs mice and keep them away.
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@kjayhawks I have a sonic thing in basement. I have poison in garage, sticky traps, caught 3. Repellent thrown under car. Smells to bad to put in car. We went 2 hrs away for thanksgiving and my aunt gave us food, we put it in my folks frig but put the rolls in a ziplock bag in car and Guess what? Chewed out corner! The damn thing went to thanksgiving w/us! We caught the 3 rd mouse since weâve got home. Hope it was him. The one in my car was chewing on my scarve. I hate them!! I donât know what an air box is. Thx!
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@kjayhawks Problem with poison in the car is that the mice can die in an inaccessible place and then you will be paying for disassembly and cleaning and lots of aerosol deodoizing sprays.
Traps are better!
@Crimsonorblue22 I guess you could get a snake to hunt 'em down. Or put a cat under the hood.
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@mayjay that happens most of the time anyways they never die out in the open lol
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@mayjay yeah right, love
! Are you kidding me.
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About that air box? I have learned to do a few things that I hate to do!
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@Crimsonorblue22 put traps around the tires while parked for extended periods (overnight). This is where they get up on the car.
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@Crimsonorblue22 I had a houseful in an old farmhouse I owned about 20 yrs ago. Apparently they had moved in after discovering a major population explosion of mice, whose evidence was all over any cabinet base in the house. They were shedding their skins in the crawlspace and in the pockets of my cinderblock foundation walls.
Right up until one of them started moving along my left arm and lifted its head out of attic insulation to flick his tongue at me when I was sprawled out up there removing some siding and sheathing.
The siding removal was of wood-boring beetles, thus justifying a $5,500 full âtent fumigationâ of the house, and collaterally eliminating the offending reptiles. No, I didnât have to buy new underwearâbut almost.
In any event, when the snakes were there, there had been no mice, just their historical evidence. So, they do work!
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Vb http://cjonline.com/sports/2016-11-30/ku-volleyball-hopes-show-home-court-advantage-ncaa-tournament
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Top 4 vb plays
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As a matter if fact I did play sports including varsity in college. The point I was making and that apparently got lost in the translation is that KU could not find a facility available for the regional in case they were given the overall #4 seed and they even checked as far as Topeka and Kansas City; by the way AFH was booked on that day for the KU-Nebraska basketball game. According to what I have read, if a team cannot provide a venue, then the games area played at the venue of the next lower seed, which would have beenâŚTexas and we would have ended up in the exact same situation, hence the âmootâ comment.
Remember last NCCA tournament? KU a #1 seed was sent to Lexington, KentuckyâŚof all placesâŚinstead of Chicago. It happens all the time, even to big time programs like KU basketball.
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Read my reply to @Crimsonorblue22. If KU was ranked #4 the game would have been played at Texas anyway since KU could not find a location that met NCAA guidelines.
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@JayHawkFanToo Good points, but I think people seem determined to believe KU would have found a way to make it work. What they donât seem to realize is that the arena would be needed, I believe, for all three matches that second weekend, not just the regional final. (I do wonder if the Neb bb game could have been moved to earlier to allow for a floor installâlike 11 a.m., but when you start inconveniencing TV, well, then there is hell to pay.)
In a larger sense, it is really moot simply because because the decision has been made and isnât likely to change. (Edit: I guess if Texas loses there is a chance of us hosting, acc to the Newell article.)
If the players get pissed about it and use it as motivation, all the better for them.
If they spend a lot of time whining about it and worrying about Texas, uh ohâŚ
How many times have people on this Board obsessed about eventual unfair matchups down the road when our bb seeding seemed wrong, only to watch us get eliminated before the âunfairâ round? That is the danger for the players if they get distracted. Two games at home, two games elsewhere â all steps that have to be taken to get back to where they are aiming.
Anger (redirected from the Committee to all opposing teams) can help you prove you are better. Whining does nothing but make you look vulnerable and unconfident.
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@JayHawkFanToo You really think KU wouldâve picked Texas to play at? Hell playing in Omaha would be better for KU. Think about it a bit, KU wouldnât choose to go to Texas. Anywhere, but an opponents home would be better. I know what youâve been told youâve repeated/restated it several times.
Also if Texas loses and KU wins KU gets to pick the siteâŚper Taitâs earlier article. So your argument that KU couldnât hold the tournament is moot as that is what they could have to do. I realize it wonât be in Allen or Horejsi, but it shouldnât be in Texas either.
Kansas volleyball happy to be playing at home sweet Horejsi
@mayjay We are complaining about a perceived injustice forced upon us by a committee that doesnât have to answer to anyone. The team is soldiering on. Not all complaints are whiny, hope Iâm not coming across as so. I know exactly how annoying some of my friends are on facebook right now whining about the election.
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@dylans Sorry! Not at you at all! My comment about whining was only about hoping the team doesnât fall into that trap. Focusing on injustices can become a built-in excuse for losing.
Dissatisfaction institutionally with the NCAAâto try to effect changeâis entirely different.
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Oh brother! They ARE NOT WHINERS! Far from it. I could care less about where they play. Think Stanford last year. Best game ever! It would be sweet to continue on at home, but Iâm only talking about they deserved to be seated 4 period! Itâs very subjective. The program took a huge jump this year winning the big 12! I canât tell you what a super accomplishment this was for the program. I have watched every game that was on tv or streamed. I followed the others online.
Drop!
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@Crimsonorblue22 Oh, for crying out loud! I said I hope they donât whine because it would be distracting, not that they are whiners!
