71 fouls and 91 FTs. I want to look at these numbers, go deeper, and figure out how much time this adds to a game.
The average number of fouls per team called last year was around 17 to 18 per game. The lowest whistled team was Michigan at 12.7 fouls per game (fpg). The highest was Morehead State with 24.9 fpg.
I’m going to play out a fake game here. Now last season Xavier averaged 17.4 fpg and Ohio 19.7 fpg. Let’s say in this fake game played last year under the old rules that 30% of the pre bonus fouls (28) were in the act of shooting. Of those shooting fouls, I’ll say the fouled player made 50% of the attempted shots in which they were fouled on. (28 x 0.3 = 8.4 x 0.5 = 4.2 + [4.2 x 2] = 12.6 FTs) . So that’s 13(rounding up from 12.6) pre bonus FTs.
Now in the 1and1 again I’ll use clips of 30% and 50%. (Note: Xavier had 17 fpg last season which means they only committed 3 1and1 fouls in my fake game. Thus making it a total of 9 1and1 fouls.) Of the 1and1 FTs I’ll use a 65% both team avg. on the first shots leading to second shots. (9 x 0.3 = 2.7 shooting fouls and 6.3 non-shooting fouls. 2.7 x .5 = 1.35 +2.7 = 4.05 + [[6.3 x 0.65] x 2] + 2.205 = 14.445) So in this game last year they would have had 14 (rounding down) FTs in the 1and1.
Add the pre bonus with the 1and1 and we get 27 FTs total in this game.
Now with an average of 30 seconds to shoot the first FT and 15 seconds to shoot the second FTs we can figure out how much time is wasted with FTs. (8.4 + 9 = 17.4 total first FTs) (4.2 + 1.35 + 4.095 = 9.645 total second FTs)
17.4 x 30 / 60 = 8.7 or 9 minutes wasted with the first FTs.
9.645 x 15 / 60 = 2.4 or 2 1/2 minutes wasted with second FTs.
An estimated 11 minutes spent this fake game just shooting FTs.
Now if I use the same math as that fake game and apply it to the number of fouls committed in this REAL played game this year using the new rules (hand check, block vs. charge) let us see what we come up with…
Same number for pre bonus FTs. Add 3 more fouls in the 1and1s and we get 19.26 FTs this time around. Then with the double bonus FTs we get 31 more fouls or 62 FTs. This all totals out to be 93.86 FTs. That’s pretty close to the actual number of fouls committed in the game. I’ll use my numbers since I can guess first and second FTAs.
51.4 first FTAs and 42.46 second FTAs.
51.4 x 30 / 60 = 25.7 minutes.
42.46 x 15 / 60 = 10.615 minutes
This all equals out to be 36.315 minutes spent at the FT line!!! Last seasons fake game only had 11 minutes. So they’ve managed to triple the time spent not running the clock.
In conclusion: My main goal was to see how much time was spent shooting FTs. If this kind of whistle blowing is going to occur this season we might as well forget about catching any of our Big Monday games!!
I’m sure our friend JayBate would hypothesize that the new rules were installed by the Shoe Company Complex, ESPN/ABC/CBS basketballopoly, and the Communist USS’NCAA’R so they all can increase the number of TV timeouts which in turn increases their bank accounts thus increasing their power over us.
That was a brutal game, but as bad as it was it should have been expected. I don’t think Baylor will lose this season, including in the National Championship if things fall into place for them to get there, they have the best offense I have ever seen. In terms of scoring, our offense was the third most effective of any team Baylor has faced (behind WVU and K State), and our defense held them to their second lowest output of the season. Let’s just hope the apparent lack of fire from the players was an isolated incident, we’ll have to keep the intensity high to try and finish the season on a positive note.
New defense rules = awful for college ball. I dont want to see a NBA style game. Who cares what the score is. Part of my concern is what will this do to one of Self’s cornerstone philosophies??? This is what made Self’s athletic teams BETTER than Roy’s athletic teams (we play defense), bouncing UNC out of the Tourney 3 times in the past 6yrs. Very concerned for our playstyle…
Should also add Tharpe has good, positive competetive swagger. Never seen him pout. Actually seen him mad at himself after a rare bad play. I think he has learned to not launch 3s early in the possession (unless Self gives him the 100% green light…). With the bigs we have this year, there is way less pressure on the PG and SG position to score, unlike last year, where EJ (or his sub Tharpe…) were expected to add scoring in most games. Its a balance between “just let em do their thing” (like 08Champs were allowed to) vs. playing smart basketball to your strengths…
See, this right here is what I am talking about. None of the journalists on LJW can write stuff like this. Then they change the website so its even harder to enjoy. Losers. Sorry, I know I am beating a dead horse at this point but still.
Thanks Drgnslayr for your post and Idea about Matchup Mondays. I don’t know if I can contribute but I will definitely enjoy reading and learning!
Hawk8086… You are right and the NBA drafts on potential. Also they draft on name recognition because they want to sell tickets, and they can build hype on a recognized name. And they sell products based around players now more than just the team itself. Like if you buy a jersey it has your pick of player’s name on it. That’s huge revenue… huge business. Imagine how much revenue the Bulls scored on Jordan? Perhaps a $billion? I’ve seen Jordan gear in the Sahara desert! Some of it was even licensed gear!
Let’s not forget about injury. College is like a healthy oasis compared to the NBA. The schedule is ridiculously long… heck, the NBA is already in preseason now. I went to an NBA game last night. And there is no time for players to work on their own game unless they cut away some of their sleep and personal life (what little they have). These guys not only play ball, they have autograph signing promotions at malls and car dealerships and so much more.
Embiid would be well served to stay another year and go through 12 more months of ‘Hudy-ization.’
All pro sports are reckless when it comes to players’ health. It’s all a system built on playing through pain. I’ve been fortunate to have contact with several ex players in the NBA and NFL… all say the same thing: they are pressured into playing through injuries and pain, and if they need something for pain, doc is there to give them what they need. It’s a life of switching from ice packs to heat and back to ice. The body is not designed to heal through these situations.
Embiid has so much potential and it would be a shame if he lost maybe half his career because of lasting injuries. He probably won’t reach his potential for maybe even another decade (if his body holds up that long).
So is it worth it for him to exit college after 1 and make that extra year of $$$ at the risk of chopping off maybe 5-7 years on the long haul?
Based on the picture from this link, they could also both use haircuts. I thought Self had somewhat of a strict hair style rule. Remember a few years ago when guys like Collins had stars and everything else shaved in their head? Then they lost a game and all had straight haircuts the next game, lol.
Thanks for posting this. I don’t got the the ESPN site so I wouldn’t have seen it otherwise. FWIW I had to pause Ghostery to get the video to work.
Fran Frachilla’s interview with Wiggins is worth watching. Andrew is a well-spoken young man with the emphasis on young. I wish he would stick around so we could see him realize his potential as a young adult. I expect he will be well-grounded and responsible. I sure wouldn’t want to see a flash back to when I was his age.
Agree with Tharpe having shown much of what Self wants in a lead guard: recall the 20assist:1 turnover stretch about 9mos ago at the start of BigXII play? Recall the ability to “read” the unsuspecting D and slash to the rim backside, like Tyshawn used to? Also remember with the game on the line at OkieState, during one of the double OTs, Tharpe went off the dribble vs. Forte and scored a pullupJ in the lane? Kid also has that competetive swagger, maybe a bit more than EJ did. I hope his D is better, but everyone may be behind the curve on that issue, given the recent NCAA rule shift…My money is on BOTH Tharpe being THE guy…and on Mason to be a quick study, hopefully. Think of Tharpe in 1 more way: most people who criticized EJ at the end of the Michigan game, were actually offerring Tharpe as the alternative…so there is evidence that others saw what I saw in Tharpe. (Not to start a side topic, but I still would have had EJ in the game, just as Self did…we are just saying “sit” EJ because of hindsight).
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