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Anyone know what the penalty is for not throwing the ball to a post player?

It’s a simple question or questions for the masses here.

Let me preface it by this first. Since everyone on here seems to know who the best players are, who the best coaches are on the staff, who should start, who should have never been a Jayhawk, who should transfer, the severity of an injury and so on. All based off opinions, no not facts, numbers are what you want them to be, you can swing numbers to work for you and against someone else, just depending on how much time you want to put into it so I do not accept that as proof.

So back to my question of “How many?”

How many practices has anyone from this site been too? How many team meetings has anyone been too? How many coaches only meetings? How many team workouts? How many dr appointments or rehab assignments? How many film sessions? How many people have talked to coach Self about the type of players he likes and what he is looking for? How many?

Anyone? Bueller?

So without being there, no matter your stats or percentages or analytics it makes it all worth not and an opinion, not a fact unless you are there day in and day out with this team, this staff and or Coach Self himself.

I’ve read all the BS behind the hate for certain players, yes there is a hatred for Jamari for whatever reason, perhaps you couldn’t even touch his jock strap in your prime and you are jealous, but it is a hate that is going around. It needs to stop, cyber bullying is just the same as being an ass in real life. He’s a Jayhawk and a damn fine young man who has build his life from the rubbles of the streets, but hey haters gonna hate.

I’ve read that Greens injury wasn’t as bad as we were led to believe, yet it did require surgery, so not sure who on here is a Dr, and no playing Operation when you were 7 and not getting buzzed, does not make you smarter than anyone else.

I’ve read this and that and how one persons opinion if it’s different from the masses is wrong or a dreamer. Why? Why can’t someone disagree with others? No one is perfect, and I know this because you are not God himself. Look thats what makes this a great forum, is that people can voice their opinions abut things, but when it comes down to two or three people always saying they know more about Kansas Basketball or the game itself it makes me laugh.

Who here is a winning coach? Who here was an all american player? Sure we all either played here and there, but that doesn’t mean you know more about the game than someone else, sure it gives you experience, but not always knowledge. There are some great coaches in the world that weren’t great players, and there are great players that can’t coach a lick, so that isn’t proof.

I’m just tired of reading people who think they know more than the next guy cause they say so. Or they know whats right for this team when they have never been to a practice or meeting or film session. Makes me laugh in all reality at how some people sound.

OK let the bashing on me begin. Make me laugh. Make yourself look smart.

Be a Jayhawk fan and cheer for everyone that laces up their shoes this year no matter your OPINION of them, because thats all it is.

As KU fans we take a lot for granted and yet we have so much to be thankful for.

Be it Dr Naismith, Coach Allen, Wilt or Bill Self and everyone who has come and gone between.

This year besides this site and ALLthe posters that come with it. Yes even those I argue with and don’t agree with I’m still thankful for you input balance is good.

Speaking of balance, I am very thankful that this years team has great balance and chemistry

Be it Wayne the leader one night or Perry the next. Or be it Frank charging forward or Devonte playing solid D. This team doesn’t need one guy to take over a game. Heck we could have Svi or Bragg come off the bench and lead the way for a night, and nobody on this TEAM is going to get their jocks in a knot.

This is what I’m thankful for this season. TEAM!

Jimmy Kimmel

OK I was getting very very worried that the triple OT game sent @HighEliteMajor major to the ICU of his local hospital. That is until I looked and say the he did post twice yesterday in response to other post.

But yet I’m still concerned, perhaps he broke his keyboard in his post game analysis from typing too fast and hard? Plus his post from yesterday were short.

Maybe he’s on vacation and has limited internet reception.

Oh wait, remember last week when he made his wife wait to go out and eat? I saw the movie Misery, perhaps his wife went a little rough on him?

Just worried about you @HighEliteMajor just want to make sure you are doing alright in health and freedom and with that win Monday night.

Perhaps you haven’t finished your analysis yet?

Why? Some of you are probably asking why I’m concerned about @HighEliteMajor as we tend to not be the best of comrades on here. But hey he is still a Jayhawk Brother.

Here’s to you HEM, Rock Chalk Jayhawk

My Adidas walked through concert doors and roamed all over coliseum floors I stepped on stage, at Live Aid All the people gave and the poor got paid And out of speakers I did speak I wore my sneakers but I’m not a sneak My Adidas cuts the sand of a foreign land with mic in hand I cold took command my Adidas and me, close as can be we make a mean team, my Adidas and me we get around together, rhyme forever and we won’t be mad when worn in bad weather My Adidas… My Adidas… My Adidas

standin on 2 Fifth St. funky fresh and yes cold on my feet with no shoe string in em, I did not win em I bought em off the Ave with the black Lee denim I like to sport em that’s why I bought em a sucker tried to steal em so I caught em and I fought em and I walk down the street and I bop to the beat with Lee on my legs and adidas on my feet and now I just standin here shooting the gif me and D and my Adidas standing on 2 Fifth My Adidas… My Adidas…

Now me and my Adidas do the illest things we like to stomp out pimps with diamond rings we slay all suckers who perpetrate and lay down law from state to state we travel on gravel, dirt road or street I wear my Adidas when I rock the beat on stage front page every show I go it’s Adidas on my feet high top or low My Adidas… My Adidas…

Now the Adidas I possess for one man is rare myself homeboy got 50 pair got blue and black cause I like to chill and yellow and green when it’s time to get ill got a pair that I wear when I’m playin ball with the heal inside make me 10 feet tall my Adidas only bring good news and they are not used as selling shoes they’re black and white, white with black stripe the ones I like to wear when I rock the mic on the strength of our famous university we took the beat from the street and put it on TV my Adidas are seen on the movie screen Hollywood knows we’re good if you know what I mean we started in the alley, now we chill in Cali and I won’t trade my Adidas for no beat up Bally’s My Adidas…

@HighEliteMajor 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10.

There now I took my deep breath. Now you can come down from yourself appointed soapbox.

Deal?

I am not blind to the things that are a miss of KU basketball. No I don’t think coach Self is the almighty figure of coaching either. But I’m also not going to sit here and bite my tongue with the insistent bashing of Traylor or the questioning of the severity of BGs injury and surgery like they have an insight or the knowledge to do so.

If it stings or hurts about my other thread I started, then I guess it’s true. The truth hurts.

As for my meds since your not a doctor you have no clue what I should or should not be taking. So if you want to make it personal we sure can.

I’m just amused and annoyed at how much you think you know about the game itself.

@Statmachine said:

After this summer of waiting for the season to start it almost feels over for me! Same early exit team we had last year! BUMMER

We are not Cub’s fans, we don’t see the first pitch of the game of the season and hold up a sign that reads, “There’s always next year”

We are KU, the chicken little has not ran by screaming the “sky is falling” others have, but cmon man it is one game. Coach will and teach from this, the players will learn from this.

@HawksWin If you are done after two games, and are jumping off the wagon, don’t ever forget that sometimes the journey is the destination. Hold on tight and take the downs with the ups and take it all in. You never know what will happen next, that’s why they play the games on the floor and not on paper.

I think Self is going to start Hunter, throw him out there and see what happens. He’s given Jamari and Landon a chance to show what they can do. Now it’s Hunters turn.

I’m guessing unless KU goes for 64 in the first half and Humter has a triple double at the break the Mext game Bragg gets a start and then Diallo will get his.

This will give them all a chance to play with fresh starters, play from the get go. Get reps in practice. Give them all their own personal showcase if you will.

This will not only show each guy where they stand but will show their teammates what they can do. It also will show coach Self who he can and can not trust in the starting role.

As for us fans it will just give us more to talk, argue, bicker and over analyze about.

I really wish that was a picture of Cosch Self and then just change the 2015 to 2014, 2013, 2012 and on and on and on.

@BeddieKU23 said:

And our fans, the one’s that were left gave him a standing ovation. Name another fan-base that will do that for a kid on the other team. Not ISU, Not KSU…KU is all class even its fans, although sometimes we all have our moments.

Cause those fan bases would have been on the floor shoving the OU players or breaking legs of reporters as the celebrated the victory.

@approxinfinity I had been doing pretty good through June, then July hit and I’ve been fighting sever headaches everyday all day. No answers, too many doctors and pills to mention. But I fight and keep going. That’s who I was brought up to be by my dad, my grandpa’s, coaches and life itself.

I’m just glad that football is back both college and pro. Glad to see USA basketball play well, even though they do have the token Duke player on the team(that isn’t schoolist, is it?), and all that means that the greatest place for the greatest sport for the greatest team is about to open it’s doors and tip off another fun ride.

Thanks for noticing and caring

Rock Chalk!!!

I’m not sure when I fell in love it, maybe around the 4th grade. Our school system would make teams picked by the boys and girls varsity coaches from the 4th, 5th and 6th grade classes and each team would be coached by a pair of players, usually a boy and girl. Of course as a 4th grader you aren’t to play a lot, even though they did have rules that everyone had to play so many minutes. But it was winner take all, it was a bracket, win advance, lose go to the losers bracket. My team lost it’s first game, we ended up playing for 3/4th place. It was late in the game and we were losing, one of our 6th graders (who became a wrestler and qualified for state multiple times) fouled out. Coach put me in. We came back and won the game. The next two years I didn’t lose in that tournament. It wasn’t because I was better than everyone else, but I understood the game, (dad was an assistant coach and played at a large school in HS). I knew how the game worked, teamwork was key at that age. But I also learned that I hated losing more than I loved winning.

I played through middle school and lettered all 4 years of HS, starting some of my Jr year (we were state runners up in our class) and all of my senior year. I watched a ton of college ball, I learned from it then as I do today. As I got better the game got easier, as I got better the game got better, my teammates got better and so on. The game like a player evolves.

From when Dr. Naismith cut the bottom out of the peach basket to allowing the dunk, the game has evolved. From Wooden’s two offensive sets 1 and 2 (he would give them to you if you asked him) to the Princeton offense, the game has evolved. Adding the three point line changed the game again, adding to my love of the game.

Maybe that’s a big reason I’m a Kansas fan, no I didn’t grow up in Kansas or go to school in Lawrence, but I am a huge Jayhawk fan. The game is remembered as pure in the Field House, it is known as the mega of college basketball. The players have all changed, the coaches too, even the design at center court has changed (perhaps it’s time for it to change again?). Yet my love for this game and this team never dwindles, waivers or even lets up, it normally grows stronger.

I hear people harping on KU for early exits, fans, talking heads, other schools, yet non of them have the streak that KU does, non of them can say they’ve won 53 conference titles. Sure there are schools with more National Titles, there are schools with more guys in the NBA, but that’s not why I love this game.

Love hurts, love stinks, but love is power. So when I read post from people bashing on a player or coach or the outcome of a game it actually makes me mad. Remember it’s kids playing a kids game. Why put down a kid saying he doesn’t deserve to play, or that he should transfer? because if he did he would be bashed for that too. Basketball at Kansas is life to some, maybe even death?

Damnit I love this game, during the season you can see players and teams get better, the tournament is like a rollercoaster, sometimes you feel like you’re going to throw up, others you feel euphoric.

The game evolves, sometimes for the betterment of the game and sometimes not so much. “White men can’t jump” be it a great and funny movie wasn’t good for the game. Michael Jordan as great as he was, ruined the game for so many others who thought or think they can do what he did. They can’t, they won’t and it hurts the game. Lets all remember though that MJ never won a title without his whole team, shooting guards, PF’s and C’s too. Speaking of teamwork, “Hoosiers” was great for the game, unfortunately many found it corny. Maybe “Bluechips” was closer to the real life of college basketball than we thought when it came out? Maybe it opened the eye to some?

The game changes, the names on the back of the jersey changes, heck anymore the jersey changes way to often, yet I love this game. I don’t get into the politics of the game, I don’t get into following recruits to see what they are doing in their spare time or what rumors are floating around about where they might go. I wait and when they become a Jayhawk I look into them and get to know them. If they go elsewhere I usually just wait and see if the hype they had around them was real. I don’t care who ESPN pushes to the top of their fandom, or what shoes a school goes with. I care about the game as a whole, not just college, but HS, NBA, FIBA and around the world. The game is bigger than what we give it credit for.

Damnit I love this game. It gets the best of me, probably a lot of you too. But come on lets enjoy the ride, play the cards we are dealt and just go with it. Watch the game evolve learn from the game and not try and direct it and become pundits that believe they know more than they do.

It took me awhile to realize that my love for this game was in question, by myself of all people, this spring. And when I stepped back I realized, my life has evolved, just like the game has. I stayed away from KUBuckets, espn, kusports, and just took a deep breath. What was causing me to wonder about this game so much. Then it hit me!!!

Negativity towards the game.

Damnit I love this game to much to be around negativity, be it towards how the game is played now to when it was 20 years ago, 40 years ago and so on. But the game has evolved, just like Converse Chuck Taylors to Nike Air Jordans. Evolution. Negativity towards individual players, coaches, teams, jerseys, shoes, conferences and so on.

Then I remembered back to that 4th grade consolation game when we came back and won it and the feeling I had, not only about winning, but about the game of basketball. Dammit I love this game.

So as summer approaches us and the great outdoors calls me, I will leave here knowing that the fans of Kansas will be greatly heard all around the world till the end of time. Just remember that this game is just that a game, played by kids. Cheer them because they love this game too.

Rock Chalk Jayhawk

@jayhawkbychoice I hear you. In my original post I didn’t use any names.

I voiced my opinion just as that an opinion of some of the things I had been reading on this site over and over again.

It got to me and yes I lashed out. I let it fly. Then my opinion was taken to task, so like many other on here I defended myself.

There is no reason for anyone to walk on egg shells around me. I know for a fact that there were many who supported me either in the post or in private messaging as they too have run into the buzz saw and liked seeing someone else out there fighting.

STATS ARE HUGE in sports. I know I played football and basketball. I looked at stat sheets every Fridsy night. Mondsy during film sessions. Stats have their place. But to turn stats into one persons reason for something but not allowing another person to use the stats they want I find ironic.

I have never stood on a soap box. I just finally drew a line in the sand. Maybe I crossed it too? Who knows? Maybe the waves washed it out?

I find there are great posters on this site that are afraid to voice their opinion though because they are afraid of being tore apart or made to look foolish for having their own beliefs. I’m not saying it’s done by one person alone. @HighEliteMajor knows the game, I for one do not know to what degree, but reading what he rights can be informative. But it can also make people feel that their opinions and thoughts don’t matter and aren’t good enough.

Sorry to @HighEliteMajor for my rants and raves against you.

Sorry @jayhawkbychoice for ruffling your feathers.

But I will say this in closing. I’m not one to sit by and watch and let things go. Just because it’s always been done that way doesn’t mean it’s right. Sometimes we all need to be called out, just as you did to me. So I’ll let it go. For now, truth be told I hope others see this and do as I did from time to time, stand up for what they want to.

I think we all should keep each other in line. Call people out for getting mighty and over the top. Stand and rise. Feel good about your post. Back others opinions as you would your own if you agree.

@jayhawkbychoice You don’t have to agree with me. I don’t have to agree with @highelitemajor either.

So if I offended anyone else out there with my public rant and rave. I’m sorry. If you would like a personal apology please message me and I’ll get it out to you. If there is anything else I’ll be getting ready for dear season.

@Statmachine My favorite line was “He threw it off the back of a Gorilla.” That made me laugh

So this guy walks into a small town bar and belly ups. He orders a beer and sees this large jar behind the bar filled with 20 dollar bills. He ask te bartender, “what’s with that jar full of twenties?” “That’s for a contest we have here. There’s three steps to complete. You complete the three you win what’s in the jar.” He replies “Cool what are the three things?” The stranger ask “You only find out after you pay. And they have to be done I. The order you are told and all three have to be completed.” The Bartender tells him. So the stranger reached into his pocket and pulls out a 20 and sets it on the bar. Te bartender looks at him and says while grabbing the 20 from the bar, “ok first of all you have to drink a 5th of this tequila.” As he sets a ne bottle on the bar, “when you’ve finished that you have to go pull a tooth that is infected from the old pittbull that is chained up out back. After that you have to go across the street and make this 80 year old lady have her first orgasm in 55 years. Ready. Set. Go!”

The stranger picks up the bottle and starts to chug the bad tequila. He chugs and chugs without throwing up. Stands up and falls over. Picks himself up and heads out back. All of a sudden there is some loud crashes in the alley and a few yelps from the dog.

Then it becomes real quiet. Just as everyone is wondering what happened the back door opens up and the stranger walks through the door, his clothes are ripped and there’s blood on his face.

He looks around the bar and ask, “Now where’s that 80 year old woman that needs her tooth pulled?”

@HighEliteMajor if all you are looking for is the negatives you are only going to find negatives.

If unwanted to waste my time reviewing a game that has no relevance at this juncture in time I could find everything bad that Humter did. Never focusing on any positives and make him look like the bench player he is.

If you want to argue that Hunter and Braggs production would go up if they had Traykors mins go for it it. It’s a void point. They aren’t playing those minutes. Maybe they aren’t practice players and if a coach bases his playing time on how a player produces at practice then I guess they need to work harder in practice.

If you want to argue that I don’t put in the time and effort to find all the things wrong Jamari does then you’d win cause I’m not going to knit pick at it. I’m not going to look for every negative a player does.

I guess I’m I’m just a blind fool for following coach Self and not questioning him. I guess I’m ill informed for not following you and believing in everything you say and not questioning you.

Maybe Jamari was at your local gym and didn’t pick you for his team or he out played you so wildly you were laughed out of the gym. I don’t know. But your über dislike for Traylor is well known and documented. We get it.

Does anyone have the number to the Kansas Humane society? There’s a man beating a dead horse again.

@HighEliteMajor doesn’t pain me to see Self’s quotes at all.

In all actuality it shows that he knows what he’s doing by getting his freshman ready to play with in the team aspect of the game and play his system and not just running very basic offense sets to fit them.

When the best players play in system good things happen. When the best players play out of system it shows they aren’t ready so you have to play the best available for that system until the mental part matches the physical part for younger players.

The season is very very young. A lot of time left to get these younguns ready to play for conference ball and adjust to Self’s system.

We are now closer to the Texas Tech game than we are from the win we got on Monday night.

Reading the post out there including this one about the divide, who should play more, upside, ceilings, floors, why it went into OT or three, who played well who didn’t, the refs, the announcers, I have come to the conclusion of this.

Kansas fans are spoiled little brats.

One loss to the team that became number 1. A huge win over the #1/#2 team. Beating a team with possibly the POY of all of college basketball.

Yet there is unrest and anger about the winning. I made the resolution this year, and even posted it on this site that I was going to be more of a fan this year and less of a fanatic. Enjoy the season and the games and not get to a boiling point over ever possession that doesn’t result in a score for KU or a TO for the other team.

So I stand by my statement that KU fans are spoiled. Being ranked #1 isn’t good enough. Winning a tough fought game isn’t good enough.

Here’s a news flash, you can’t win a National Title unless you win games to get into the tournament to begin with. The more games you win in the season and against really good opponents, the better seed you get is said tournament. The better seed, the easier road to that National Title.

Lose those games early and often and then you are forced to win your conference tournament to get in. That will lower your seed in the big dance pitting you up against tougher teams earlier and more often in the tournament.

See you gotta win now, the next game. You can’t look ahead to March now, you have to look at Saturdays game right now. Then come Sunday you have to Look at Tuesday nights game, not who KU will match up in the round of 32.

OK and since someone will surely say I’m a Bill Self apologist for this post, hey I get it, he’s not perfect, nor is any player, ref, fan, announcer, game, band member or anyone or anything else. Being wrong makes us human by nature.

I had to post the whole thing for everyone here. It is one of if not the most moving speech I’ve ever heard, and once you’ve really listened to it, when you read it you feel the power of it all over again.

I’ve used this speech in my own life many times, I think any sports fan that has ever had any health issues probably has. There are great lines in it, great messages in it and it has so much soul in it that it will move you to tears.

If you ever get to watch the 30 for 30 on ESPN about the NCST national title team and when his players talk about him, and about the last time he was at NCST it will knock your your eye sockets for another loop.

Apparently they all thought it was the second half and couldn’t get back in the stadium???

Looking back on a year with lots of ups and downs.

We replaced all 5 starters with a pretty good nucleus of new comers. This kid from Memphis transfers in, some kid from Cameron that will be a project, a McDonalds all american. A local Kansas boy, and perhaps the biggest name to come out of high school last year.

We won out 10th straight Big12 regular season title, along the way found out that JoJo was amazing, and Black could play a whole game. Traylor was a spark of energy and that Ellis is so steady its almost not human.

On the down side our home winning streak came to an end, but a new one started. We lost to Okie St and Kstate on their floors, but no back flips on ours. We lost to Texas but got revenge bigger and better. We beat ISU twice this year lost in that pesky Big12 turny.

Found out Andrew could score as much as he wants but only when he wanted to??? Huggie bear got a $25,000 bonus for beating KU, maybe he can start shopping at the same place Al Davis got his sweat suits now?

KU was good this year, not great. We have no idea what next year will bring or who, but what we do know is, basketball will be played again. Kansas will be good, we will fall in love with some players and get mad at others. We wil praise Coach Self one week and question him the next. It’s sports, it’s the original reality TV. There is no script, there is no crystal ball, but thats why we watch, thats why they play the games on the court and not on paper.

Let our emotions run wild, screaming after a dunk and highfiving a stranger, to the lows or lows where they catch a young rabid fan on TV with tears in his eyes, but still with a glimmer of hope.

It’s basketball, it’s the game we love and hate at times. It brings out the worst and the best in us as fans, but we never wafer, from our team we don’t leave them to go cheer on someone else next season. We are KU fans. We are Jayhawks through and through, live and die and bleed out that Crimson and blue.

Rock Chalk Jayhawk

Thank you 2013-14 players coaches and fans like me.

What a ride, what a ride…

There’s a grave on our old ranch. But tied in it are a pair of Levi boot cut jeans. A dirty t-shirt, pair of socks a baseball hat and a pair of Justin ropers boots. Oh and a dog collar.

No body in said grave.

Was walking through some brush along a fence line when the ranch dog went on point. Before I could say anything we had both been sprayed by the biggest. Fattest smelliest skunk I’ve ever seen.

I walked about a mile back to the barn as the pickup sat and called home. Mom and dad both laughing brought tomato juice oatmeal and the hair clippers.

Dad shaved the dog down first, bald Austrailian Shepards are funny lookin, as mom packed the oatmeal on me and then sprayed me off and I got my head shaved. The dog and I both got a tomato juice bath as well.

Then I was left to go dog that grave and get rid of all the evidence of having a dog that wouldn’t listen.

Here we go again

He has risen…

He has risen indeed!

HC Larry Brown said that Kentucky should run the table with their talent. Wonder if they have any of those undefeated shirts left over from last years clearance rack that were selling for a buck?

@nuleafjhawk @Lulufulu or one that reads “Allen Field House, East Coast” as you wear your KU gear.

@drgnslayr said:

We discussed this before… the meltdown of street ball.

I blame this on “White Men Can’t Jump”, every loud mouth chump thought they could then play, and two and this will shock everyone, but one person really hurt the game of basketball as a team game, Michael Jordan.

Remember the Lakers v Celtics v Pistons, those were all teams, Bird and Magic didn’t need to join a big 3, they had 4 All stars/HOF’s on their teams already. MJ played clear out ball, one on one moves. He was so talented he made it look easy, made every kid want to be like him. That was great in their driveway against their little brother, but then they tried that crap on the real court and whoops.

Let’s face it by the time MJ and the Bulls won a title he was finally on a team, surrounded by a post player, a second scoring option and a shooting guard.

The Big 3 or Pierce, Garnett and Shuttlesworth, again changed the game, now James, Wade and Bosch did it. Now they are trying it in Cleveland, they don’t have the guys who want to be teammates there, they all want to be the man. OKCity had their chance and got rid of their third wheel in Harden.

I know I have went off the rails a little, but lets face it, the Spurs and the team play they play works for basketball. It might not be flashy or the in thing to do, but to me it’s what the game is about. Five guys working together, competing as one.

@drgnslayr taped to the back of my locker was a poster of Chuck squeezing the ball and it read, “The Meek shall in inherit the Earth. But they will not get the Ball!!”

I loved mixing it up with the bigs, I usually guarded guys bigger than me and out rebounded them, got in their minds I could block their shots or steal the ball from them. I also like to post them up and out maneuver them. I loved Charles Barkley’s game. Learned a few post moves from Kevin Mchale too, per my dad. But I was never afraid of going down low or taking right at them.

Let’s just Gator done tonight

http://www.cbssports.com/collegebasketball/eye-on-college-basketball/25198133/proposed-rule-big-12-teams-could-lose-home-games-if-fans-storm-court

OK this might be a little overboard, but if your school does nothing to stop it then yes you should be punished more than a financial fine. If it happens time after time then yes, review it and take away the win.

But buyer beware, maybe all the KU fans wear purple to Lil Apple and storm the court after a loss and give KU the victory??? Not that it would happen, but that could be an issue somewhere.

At least adopt what the SEC does and fine schools for this!!!

@HighEliteMajor no I didn’t watch the WUGs. Had things to do this summer. Like family vacation, raising my kids along with other things.

Plus it wasn’t our full team to watch. Players that go to KU can’t play cause they were born elsewhere, really doesn’t make it “our team” when you bring guys in from other schools.

Jamari is still raw. He’s played organized ball for less than 10 years. Yeah guys like Embid who have a knack might pick it up quicker. Maybe Jamari’s numbers aren’t what you want them to be when he’s on the court but in comparison how are other players numbers when he’s in the game? What are the other 4 guys numbers when Bragg or Hunter are I. The game? Not just the player themselves Hunter and Braggs vs Jamari’s numbers but the rest of the teams? Just wondering if everyone’s drop off? Just showing one set of numbers makes for only a one sided argument to end the way you want it to.

I haven’t got to watch them play or scrimmage at late night either. Won’t take much from the PSU game neither. I’ll wait to pick a player when I have had s chance to watch them all play against D1 teams.

As for surgery and recovery everyone heals at different rates. Some people comeback and are a force like Adrian Peterson. Others take more time, might not make it back. No surgeon will ever say that two surgeries are the same nor will two people heal at the same rate.

I’d just like to see people step back and even down from their perches and see the players for what they are. Teenagers and young men. I’m sure st 21 23 years old non of us were doing our jobs at the rate and as well as our bosses wanted. We just weren’t watched by the world.

Royals fans vs Mets fans at home games.

Mets fans “HARVEY! HARVEY! HARVEY!”

Royals fans “LETS GO ROYALS! LETS GO ROYALS”.

Yes it’s a team sport. It’s not about the name one the back of the jersey but the name across the chest.

@JhawkAlum I know a lot of fans don’t want see Traylor on the floor.

In reality Id rather see him in the floor over Lucas who at times looks like he’s being forced to be a basketball player and is just going through the motions.

This is just my opinion. Take it for what it’s worth. Do with it as you please.

@drgnslayr What I saw in Hunter last night in limited mins. was he didn’t move on offense, he stayed on the block, he set a screen three feet away from his teammate that couldn’t be used. On D he ran down in the paint which is what he is to do, but he was under the basket, making Graham have to come off his man and leaving him open for a three, it ended up being a make.

He had one foul, no biggie there.

Sparty scored 7 points in his three minute stretch. KU scored 2.

The word is out: Dunking the ball is illegal at Kansas per the original rules of the game.

Anyone know what the school penalty at KU is for basketball players not passing the ball into the post?

6 games I’m guessing

@wissoxfan83 said:

In contrast the starting Ohio St. QB gets arrested for drunk driving and misses one game.

That also has to do with their HC. Gotta remember while at Florida he knew that Hernadez had a gun. Did little to nothing about it because he helped them win.

Old Urb doesn’t care about their future just his own legacy.

Played NAIA ball for a year. Then I just fell out of love for it as it wasn’t a game any more for me and more of a job.

Love the game now. Again. It took a few years to get over.

As for wanting more playing time as a player it’s something we all want. You can work hard and not get it if there are guys above you that do one thing better than you.

Normally you talk to the coach one on one before the season starts. He has notes about you, pluses and minuses. You as a player ask what it’s going to take to get on the floor. He tells you exactly what you need to do and who is I. Front of you and why.

After practices start before the first game as a player you might feel that you’ve done what was asked if you and more. You may even speak to the coach in his office one on one or with an assistant or two in there as well.

After a game or two and you still aren’t getting what you believe is adequate playing time the time and place for that conversation is after film and notes and behind closed doors.

You don’t call out an assistant or head coach in front of the team. EVER. You can talk to your teammates about it and vent, that’s what builds a brotherhood. But you don’t call out the coach no matter what.

If this is what transpired and who knows what was said or how it was taken this is probably ky why BG is out 6 games.

For those that want to compare it to Traylor’s deal or any other players those were their first infractions as far as I know. This seems to be a yearly deal with BG.

It’s not comparable to “Snacks” as he’s a coach and is held in a different light than a player.

This is just my opinion on my experiences. It’s like as an adult you do as the police officer says and things go smoothly. You question the officer or argue well that incident now becomes an ordeal. Same with your coach.

Be it via phone calls, emails or twitter, and or even the postal service. Let’s start the old letter writing campaign to the NCAA and let them know how we feel.

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Or for Customer service issues:

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And for those looking for employment, I mean because they are over worked and behind schedule, there should be openings, but…

http://chc.tbe.taleo.net/chc02/ats/careers/searchResults.jsp;jsessionid=097960A1A63FAD002CE59585EB8CB442?org=NCAA&cws=1

It’s a head scratcher. The blue circle group known as the NCAA had said all along it was his HS and the course work he had taken there. That he didn’t pass enough core classes, yet they didn’t go to the school to review anything since 2011 making their judgement on the school in 2012. They even brought up transcripts from his 6th grade class in Mali.

This was what they were using to hold this kid back from playing a sport and trying to make a life for himself and perhaps the betterment of his family back in Mali.

But wait they lied about that. It came down to less than $200 bucks given to him when he first came over to the United States of America, by his handler who was trying to become his legal guardian. Shortly there after he was his legal guardian in the US of A.

Yet this was never brought up by the NCAA until yesterday. If they had this information earlier why didn’t they say so and set the record straight?

If anyone remember this happened to Rick Majerous when he was at Utah. A player had lost his father and Rick took this young man out for a slice of pizza and a soda. That student athlete had to repay that 7 bucks or so to a charity sit one game I believe and Rick was fined put on probation and who knows what else the blue circle group of thrives made him do.

They aren’t looking out for the best interest of the student athlete. They are looking out how to line their pockets with cold hard cash, get free stuff and anything else they can get their hands on.

The NCAA is following the playbook that was written by the Intetnational Olympic Committee and revised for a second edition by FIFA. Steal. Cheat. Party. Until you get caught. Then deny. Deny deny place blame somewhere else and take a huge buyout to go away.

@cragarhawk I posted this over on another post “Diallo cleared” and I will cut/paste it here.

Let’s not think he will step in next week and be a 20 minute guy right off the bat.

I’m as happy as everyone else that he is cleared to play. Don’t get me wrong there!!!

Just saying he is in no way shape or form in game shape. 8-12 the first two games. Unless he is completely highly better than advertised.

He will probably get most of Lucas’s minutes and Hunters too. Then Traylor’s as the season goes on.

Let’s not forget that Embid took a bit to get his feet under him in the college game. Black was in front of him in the rotation. Once Joel got his lungs and legs and proved how good he was in a game, then he played until injury.

Nobody needs to get bent out of shape next week when he’s not starting game 1 or playing 20-25 minutes.

Give home time. Let him get adjusted to game speed and his teammates get used to him as well.

Just sayin.

I will add this to it as well. He needs to get timing down on offense with his teammates. Build trust in a game with them. Can they trust him on defense to make the right reads and covers?

It’s one thing to do it in practice and another to do it all in a game without coach stopping a play half way through and starting over.

The speed of the game will be a huge factor is in his progression.

So saying conference play or February is setting the bar at a reasonable and obtainable goal. If Self game out and said wait til Christmas and he was fumbling all over the place this board would be blowing up about the over hype.

@DoubleDD let me clarify the above post. It’s not directed directly at you or anyone else for that matter

I just don’t understand why people can’t embrace and enjoy the team we do have?

I don’t care about the recruits we didn’t get. I don’t care about the recruits we haven’t signed yet.

I care about the young men that are suited up for this years Jayhawk squad.

The season is young, very very young and yet everyone is talking about blowing it in March. Or who would help us that is no long on the roster or who coulda been on the roster.

They aren’t so why stress and worry.? If you are married and are always concerned what your ex is doing is that fair to your spouse? No it’s not.

If he gets all of Jamari’s min then he fouls out last night.

I was impressed by his ability to dunk the ball when he was close to the rim since our other bugs do not!

He too like all our other bigs does not know how to pass out of the post.

His shot blocking was impressive as was his active hands.

Most impressed by his ability to block, keep active get the steal and then dribble coast to coast for the dunk.

Am I being a Debbie downer? No just a realist. He’s good. He going to be real good. But let’s let sell out the rest of the team for his stardom.

If you watch the game the whole team played with more energy last night in the second half (except Frank on his blocked by the rim dunk). If Disllo brings energy to the team “gasp” then good they need it.

This last game Kansas shot a team percentage of 52% from the stripe, you don’t win many games shooting that horrific from there. It was worse in the win against Loyola at 46%, not as glaring in a win by 33 points. The best game of the season percentage wise for KU was at 85.7% against UCLA but then again KU was hot from anywhere on the court that game. It’s second highest percentage came against Michigan St at 80%, and a mark in the loss column.

Are free throws important in winning? Yes they are, more so than their percentages as you can see above. Even though a higher percentage usually tilts the odds in your favor of winning. There is more to it than just makes and misses though. It’s how you get to the line as well. Are you driving the lane or taking it strong to the rim? If so then you are getting them in trouble and are able to get two shots guaranteed at the line.

If you are getting fouled out top and are taking all 7 fouls to get to the line for a one and one then you are only prolonging the game due to inbounds and not guaranteed points. Making the front end of a one on one gives you one point and allows you the opportunity for a second. Missing that first one only hurts your percentage by al little instead of going 0 for 2 as it could be kept, and really killing percentages of teams and players a like.

The free throw is almost the easiest shot in basketball, their are no shot blockers, body contact or changes in distance. It’s the same shot every time, 15 feet away three people to your left, three to the right.

After talking to a High school coach this weekend about it he opened my eyes a bit about how the free-throw changes for each player in different parts of the game. Are they having a good or bad night from the field? If they are struggling to make a shot from the floor, then they begin to question their mechanics as they shoot FT’s. As he put it, “It should be muscle memory from the line, but way to much mental ilk.” How beat up are they when they get to the line? Did they get fouled going to the rim hard or was it a touch foul? If they got beat on a bit it can affect their ability to shoot straight, maybe they are getting sore? Are they tired? Easier to take that shot late in the first quarter than the 4th. Legs are fresh, arms are full of blood.

This each said he has changed how he shoots FT’s in practice. 15 years ago he had them shoot FT’s at the beginning and end of practices. Now he has them do it throughout practice as many times as he can. Gives them a more game like feel to it, even during drills and not scrimmages. It also serves as a break in practice, much like a game you can use the free-throw as a break and resting period for your players without substitution or timeouts. You can even coach them up from the sideline during a game for two of them.

In the past three seasons since implementing this way of practicing FT’s his teams average has went up by 7% and the past two years has been over 80% for the season. This season after two games as a team they are shooting 92% and he has three players at 100% with more than 6 attempts for each of those players.

Another aspect of the free-throw is the “and one”. Are you able to finish strong when you are fouled and able to close the lead or extend your won lead? The old fashioned three point play can be a killer to the opposing team especially late in the game. You made your shot, added a fouls onto one of hitter players and you got a free point as well.

Now the Free-throw itself is staying on your toes, using you legs, keeping your elbow in, reaching your fingers into the rim like a cookie jar on your follow through and watching the rim and not the ball as you release it. When you watch the ball you have taken your eye off the target, when you stay flat footed or fall back on a FT you are either going to leave it short or try and over compensate and use your arms more and shoot flat and long. Also by falling you back you make it easier for the defender the block you out.

Is the Free throw tough shot? For Shaq it was, was it form and function or mental?

My old HS coach used to tell me to clear my mind when I was stepping to the line. Not to worry about what just happened to get the foul or what the score was, just take the shot. If only it were that easy, I was always worried about the score especially if the game was close or if we were behind.

A little story ab out FT’s and I will stop. We were in a tight game and it was a rough game. Went into over time. On an inbounds play down a point with less than 5 seconds to play, we were under our own basket, the ball came to me and before I could gather it I was knocked down and the ball went out of bounds, as it went off of a defenders foot. The refs didn’t call a foul and gave them the ball. I was pissed, even told a ref that he missed not one but two calls on that play.

As we were walking back to the locker rooms that ref is in the hallway and he looks at me, and he had done a lot of our games that season so we knew each other. I reached out to shake his hand as a good sport and I had cooled down, and that’s when he said something that struck me in the heart and has stayed with me ever since and why I value FT’s so much. “Ryman I might have missed a call or two tonight, but if you would have hit the front end of three one and ones you guys would have won the game in regulation.” He then shook my had and said we were even and no hard feelings.

@jaybate-1.0 It was either last year or two years ago Spurs head coach Greg Popovich was asked about analytics. He laughed and said he doesn’t have time for that and doesn’t believe in them. That someone who isn’t trying to save his job doesn’t versus a guy trying to create a job. Something on those lines, much like what Barkley said.the article continued that even though Pops didn’t like the analytics and such the Spurs were statically saber metrics wise the best team in the NBA. This is from a coach who doesn’t care about the stats as he will pull his starting 5 and out in 5 subs in not only for rest but to save a timeout and coach his team. Show them what they are doing wrong. His system seems to work pretty good.

@HighEliteMajor

2-5 Could this be Due to different styles of D as well? Man vs zone. Also shooting percentages from outside and FT shooting made a difference in the scoring in each game.

2-6 he is a genius based on he rested players versus a team that he knew he wouldn’t need to use them. He had them there if he needed them but with the outside shooting as hot as it was.

3-2 ok here I will say it and open a bag of worms. But why is it OK for One player to be productive in some areas and not in others and it’s great but others if they do things for the team but don’t do other things deserve the bench? Hunter didn’t score. Didn’t get to the line. Sure he got a block or two. He was disruptive on D and altered shots. But his offensive game made it 4 on 5 he was not a threat.

With that said I want to see Hunter blow up and do great things giving the depth inside for a deep deep run for KU. But it can’t just be Hunter, Bragg and Diallo for that depth to take us on that run. Both Lucas and Jamari (yes he has a name and is not a player to be named later or not named) to make that run.

2-4 This coming from a guy that uses “_________” instead of Jamari Traylor. Still shaking my head at this one.

@wrwlumpy you are right he took the challenge given to him and not only accepted it but has probably blew it up.

Not only does his speed push the offense but puts a lot of pressure on the opposing D. His hands are quick and he is very disruptive on the perimeter.

That his basketball IQ is tremendous on both sides of the ball. He knows what other guys are to do in certain defensive sets, I saw him grab Bragg a few games back and get him to the right place, maybe it was because Bragg was in his way but still.

He is becoming the extension of coach on the floor.

@DoubleDD and @jaybate-1.0

Teammates

Carbon fiber 5. Strong. Good at what they do and light weight.

The Flummox 5

Go the Bob Dylan route “Obviosly five believers” OFB for short?

This has seemed to become a major topic on this board.

Play the most talented guys or play within the team aspect of the game have have great chemistry on the court?

There have been many many times Kansas has lost games to inferior talented teams, be it the regular season or in the tournament. In the tournament, one of the reasons, that teams like VCU, UNI, WSU have beaten Kansas besides “their super bowl” is they had better chemistry.

It wasn’t about their players trying to increase their draft stock or drop in the draft rankings. They played as teams and they all had great chemistry.

Talent, Kansas has also lost to much greater talented teams as well. Kentucky, for instance. Anthony Davis was heads and shoulders above anyone KU had on the floor that night.

It’s not just Kansas this happens too. Kentucky lost last year to Wisconsin. I’ll ask, which team had better team chemistry and which team had better talent?

When you combine the two, it becomes deadly. Kansas in '08. Duke in 1991.

Don’t think for a moment that Diallo and Bragg shouldn’t get PT, But they must earn the trust of their teammates not only in game times, but in practice. BG is in that moment at times too, at the end of the first half the other night he made a bad pass and the ball went OB. On the in bounds play he was open, but Frank looked him off for a second, then only had LL to go to and well that wasn’t pretty. It’s trust. It’s chemistry.

Hard work pays off in sports, coaches see it and reward it. Unless they don’t have depth, then they go with what they got.