Don’t get the Riley kugel thing. We are a top 5 program all time, top 3 active coach, huge NIl group, top adidas school. We are landing a guy that didn’t even average 10 pts at a big time school. Sure he has upside but why is Ku reaching on a guy like that. Self and staff really blew it last year in the portal. Lets hope they figure it out this year
Posts made by jayhawks2010
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RE: 2024 Portal Madness Thread
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RE: Bracket chat
the odds of sustaining another dislocation is extremely high! He is probably cleared to play but I would expect surgery in the offseason, and if he doesn’t do surgery and plays next year it will be concerning it could happen again next year… McCullers injury they’ve been super vague on. Most likely a small medial meniscus tear that he will have scoped in the offseason. This team was never that elite when healthy but especially not now. With that being said the tourney is a crapshoot and we are talented enough to get lucky and make a final four. Odds are just lower this year than most self years
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RE: Short Handed Hawks vs Cincy Game Thread
Furphy quietly going 10,6,8,9 last 4 games and 2 pts on 1-7 shooting tonight lol
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RE: Cougar chat
I think the sanctions etc is kind of a cop out. Self is a hall of fame coach but anyone can make mistakes and things sometimes happen out of our control. Self chose to bring in a slow center who is a poor defender. He chose to bring on Morris who had major red flags. Imagine another quality guy instead of Morris. He chose to take on Timberlake over another player. The staff miss evaluated how good Jackson was. They landed Marcus Adams who end up being a head case. Kid transfers out of ku and barely lasts week at Gonzaga. They had a bad offseason and kind of lucked into getting furphy late. Obviously he is amazing at his job and most years gets it right
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RE: It will be pretty hard for me to be excited for next year's team
You guys are crazy!!! Kj is one of the best parts of this team. This team is not elite bc Hunter Dickinson is one of the worst defensive centers in college basketball. He is slow and a poor defender in pick in roll situations. We also are bad bc Harris is Harris. Mediocre pg! Self messed up in recruitment and the portal. Chasing after arterio Morris, miss evaluating the talent of Timberlake and recruiting Elmarko to be an impact guy…. But no let’s focus on one of the bright spots of the team in Kj…… self should have gone after other portal guys. Should have just rocked Ingram and KJ and landed another impact shooting guard/wing!
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RE: The Boys Are Back vs OU
Let’s go!!! We are going to win this! Good finish to the half
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RE: Timberlake
Sorry something got off with the format after I submitted, hard to read…… first 3 years he played 20min plus per game shooting 27-31%. Final two years 40% from 3. Just odd to be so bad for 3 years and then elite for 2. It would be interesting to see if his shooting form has changed slightly back to old bad habits.
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Timberlake
Timberlake’s Towson career. Year: Min played 3pt attempt. 3pt percentage Fresh. 20. 2.3. 23.8% Soph. 19.8 min. 2.9. 32% Junior. 29.8 min. 5.4. 31.6 Senior. 33.2min. 5.6. 40.6 5th year. 35.7min. 6.7. 41.6 Ku year. 10min. 2.4. 27.7
It is really surprising a guy who appears to be a guy that was suppose to be a good shooter out of highschool, be that bad for 3 years. Some guys are so athletic in highschool they score based on drives and learn good shot mechanics later. I don’t feel like that’s who Timberlake was. Either way it would be interesting if the staff looked at his form his first 3 years versus his two good years to see what changed. Something is off currently with his shot!
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RE: The Furph
Let’s calm down on the furphy hype… he has a decent 3pt shot and he runs the floor well in transition for lay ups. But he’s got virtually no ability to create his own shot. He’s only getting some looks bc he’s not the focal point of the other team. He is a poor defender. He’s slow footed and he’s really weak. He gets offensive rebounds (flys In well for them) but defensive rebounds he loses to his guy a lot. He doesn’t box out well. The team is 3-2 since he started. He’s a fine prospect for a 3 and D guy down the road.
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RE: KU vs the smart people game chat
Timberlake is playing slow Ivy League guys. He’s shown all season he can’t guard top 25 type teams
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RE: KU vs the smart people game chat
The fact that Jamari hasn’t played the main minutes of the bench is so frustrating! It doesn’t make us better long term. I don’t get why McDowell continues to not play. The kids the only reason they beat Tennessee and Indiana. Game changed when he played that spot with the main 4. He should be getting the minutes to grow for March. The bench shooter role is filled and that’s furphy. Timberlake has shown he can’t defend high level defenders, he’s lost that role.
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RE: KU vs Indiana game chat
@jayballer67 For sure! He has been stepping up in big moments this year, even though he’s not been given consistent minutes. He deserves the playing time and the ability to grow. He’s got huge upside
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RE: KU vs Indiana game chat
McDowell huge again in a big game! Very excited to see him get like no minutes next game
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RE: Is McDowell injured? Dnp against UConn. Furphy showed some improvement. I hope for steady improvement!
I guess agree to disagree. I think Jamari has way higher ceiling. He has way more nba athleticism. If you had no idea of their ranking coming into the year, has Elmarko shown anything that says lottery pick guy versus Jamari? Jamari’s shot mechanics are better than elmarko. Jamari had the second highest plus minus of any player in the Maui tournament. Only guy higher was the Marquette big guy. Rebounding defense has been better out of him. I guess just different perspective of what I’ve watched. I’m not saying elmarko is awful, but I don’t see the separation. Furphy can shoot but he’s pretty slow and it shows. Either way all 3 of those guys will get better and it will be fun to watch. Go Jayhawks!
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RE: Is McDowell injured? Dnp against UConn. Furphy showed some improvement. I hope for steady improvement!
Honestly the lack of playing time for Jamari is baffling. He’s looked better than elmarko and furphy all season! I’m still waiting to see what Elmarko is suppose to bring vs Jamari. He maybe passes slightly better? Jamari is a better defender, better rebounder, shooting is better than Jackson. It’s really just a freshman year grimes versus ochai situation right now
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RE: Eastern Illinois. 344 Ken Pom KU #5
Main unit looks better with McDowell! He needs to get his minutes and grow. Furphy as the main bench guy. Elmarko is Harris sub and occasionally McCullers
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RE: Eastern Illinois. 344 Ken Pom KU #5
We didn’t try hard. We have talent. Can we beat UConn, sure. Will we, who knows! Hunter is a great offensive player but he’s a really poor slow defender. We have 4 good players. But Hunter doesn’t really match the other 3. Adams, Kevin, Harris all would be better in a more in your face defensive squad that can run the floor. Hunter needs a slow pace, half court offense, with 3 point shooters. Part of the style of the main 4 doesn’t gel perfect. Ultimately the problem is the 5 th starter and bench. It’s bad, and self really missed. Elmarko has been pretty disappointing for his hype. Other transfers are not great. He took a stupid gamble on the Texas kid that got kicked off the team. And Marcus Adam’s recruitment was a mistake as well. For ku prestige and bill selfs resume it’s shocking he couldn’t land better transfers outside of hunter
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RE: Football chat anyone? On the road at Cincinnati to finish the season
So crazy this team should have been 11-1 or 10-2… really had some unfortunate luck, especially at the qb spot… hope we get a fun bowl game matchup… next year top 12 go to the playoffs. If this team stays together they legit have a chance at making that
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RE: MAUI WOWIE TOURNAMENT
Awesome bounce back. Mcdowell really showing what he can bring to the team!
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RE: KJ Adams
End of the day it’s what’s best for Adams! If he feels like playing and being around his teammates is good for him , then great. If he needs that time away to process and be with family then totally fine!…. From a basketball perspective, meaningless games in November won’t affect the season much and honestly it will allow furphy, mcdowell, Jackson time to play more and grow. Getting that bench and 5th starter spot strong is needed! Harris, Hunter, Kevin, KJ are good enough to win it all but they need those freshman to step up. Especially with early Timberlake minutes being shaky even though it’s early in the season
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RE: Beat KState! Beat KState!
Yeah most schools don’t win with their 2nd or even 3rd stringer. Ballard is a freaking walk on freshman ugh… this is a 9-10 win team with a healthy qb
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RE: What to Expect at the Champions Classic?
Braun needs to be center back up min that’s it
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RE: What to Expect at the Champions Classic?
I think Timberlake and furphy battle for the first guard off the bench bc we do need someone who can provide the scoring punch. Timberlake hasn’t been great so far but he has to have a chance for a little longer. Which ever guard doesn’t win that spot needs to be behind McDowell. We can’t play furphy and Timberlake combo that much against good teams. It is too much of a drop in speed. We need a second guard to be athletic play good defense etc. I also think McDowell can be like Garret and against a lot of matchups he could fill some Adam back up min at the 4 bc we can’t really count on Braun to be that guy.
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RE: What to Expect at the Champions Classic?
McDowell has to play off the bench some. Way to hit those free throws
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RE: Exhibition Game Tonight
Is self a hall of fame coach, yes. Will this team be a 1,2,3 seed, yes. Will they be one of the teams that if they get lucky and the bracket falls right make a final four and win, yes. Are they super underwhelming for the hype, yes. Did self not quite get the right pieces this year and make some bad decisions on who he went after, yes. I think it’s okay to be critical of the team and be frustrated by the early indications this is not a top 5 team unless a couple people really go beyond what is most likely to happen. Could elmarko figure it out, and be a lottery pick guy and Adam’s could take the next step, yes. Early on this doesn’t look like a special group but we will see
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RE: Exhibition Game Tonight
@BShark We don’t usually have trouble dropping 80 plus in any exhibition game playing a lose rotation. Last years team dropped over 90.
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RE: Exhibition Game Tonight
@approxinfinity It seems that way. They couldn’t event get 80 points against fort hays state!
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RE: Exhibition Game Tonight
Legit question, is this team better then last years team? The bench isn’t better. Ok you get Dickinson but you lost an all American score in wilson. Grady gave you an nba level shooter. Harris is Harris. Adam’s and McCuller I guess are a hair better. Post scoring is significantly better but your post defense is crazy worse
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RE: Exhibition Game Tonight
McDowell has way more upside as a future ku guy from what I’ve seen
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RE: Exhibition Game Tonight
I don’t see the furphy love. He’s pretty slow and awkward moving laterally. He Doesnt look like he has a driving game at all. His shot form is fine…But man if you threw a fort hays state jersey on him and he played on the other side I don’t think he would catch anyones eye. Even if this is suppose to be like the next svi, he’s also way skinny and not D1 body ready for this year
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RE: Exhibition Game Tonight
Here’s the real question , by years end will we be wishing we kept udeh and zuby instead of hunter. We could have used that nil money for the best 2 and 3 guard in the portal instead. And bill wanted Timberlake instead of making a run at the oral Roberts kid or a legit athlete shooter
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RE: Exhibition Game Tonight
Dickinson is way overhyped. He’s so slow and a bad defender. Johnny furphy also looks really unathletic, don’t see power 5 level from him.Timberlake looks like tyrell reed, which is fine but that’s the best self could Have got. Will be a good team but I don’t see top 5 from this team.
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Marching band
I’m an alumni of the KU marching band. I know several alumni members, including myself, that are annoyed by the recent band directors decision to not wear uniforms for the first 1/3rd of the season. This has been going on for several years….The excuse is always that it is too hot or that they do not have enough uniforms to start the season. It was 81 degrees tonight, prime time TV and we are in shorts and polos. This has been a recent trend. When I was there we never did not wear the uniform for pregame and the half time show! Every high school band in the city wore uniforms tonight. KU football is taking the next step and the band needs to look the part on national TV. If anyone on here is a big time donor or has connections with the athletic department, spread the word and get some pressure on the band department to stop this lack of pride. Thanks!
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RE: And then we have these discussions
Rumors are that the big ten takes Washington, Oregon, cal, Stanford. We get corner schools…. FSU, unc, Clemson all want big money. So either this year or next. Acc collapses. So essentially we are 3rd conference we end up with the scraps… Louisville Pitt Georgia tech etc
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RE: Jayhawks in the NBA -- 2022
Ochi killed it end of the year. He just didn’t get playing time early. Awesome to see CBs game!
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RE: Welcome Parker Braun!
I think we can assume they will rock hunter and mix KJ in at the 5. He’s a glue guy, program guy that can give you energy min for 6-8 min. They need depth and can’t throw insane money at every guy. They have 2 Spots left. I feel like a bigger small forward that can play 4 is still the missing piece
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RE: KJ Adams Discussion
Honestly KJ blew up teams pick and roll with switching and containing guards. You can play small and win at a high level. See Villanova. KJ was fine at the 5 and not the reason why that team, while had a good season, struggled at times. They had no bench!!! Guards off the bench were terrible. Udeh got better as the season went on but he wasn’t consistent off the bench… the starting line up also struggled to score bc dajuan is limited, mcculler was a very mediocre offensive guy, and Grady was mostly a set shooter that needed to be set up. Kj was very dangerous in pick and roll situations, and was one of our best players down the stretch. Obviously hunter gives them a different type of team. Last year If you had a legit sixth man and McCuller was closer to a 2nd team all American they would have been legit. McCuller wasn’t as good as billed as an overall player. He was a good defender but not a star and they had no bench.
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RE: NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP GAME MUTTERINGS
But yet since 1999 they’ve missed the tourney 9 times, only 8 times made it to a sweet 16 or beyond, won 25 games or more only 9 years. They are the weirdest program to profile. Nothing before 1990s essentially. A lot of mediocre years. Couple great years, 3 magical runs to win a title as a low seed. Won title every time in the final four. I’d rank them fringe top ten historically 7-12 ranked. Always depends what category you favor on a ranking system
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RE: NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIP GAME MUTTERINGS
Blue blood term is dumb. It’s so polluted on espn. What’s blue bloods. Top 10-15 programs, top 5, who knows. UConn is a top 8-15 program. So i guess blue blood
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RE: KU Offseason Chef Bill Cooking Thread
I see Harris at the pg, Adam’s at center. Elmarko starting sg…. I think we land 2 transfer guards. Both high level guys that start at the 3 and 4. Small potential our 2024 guy reclassifies and battles for the 4 spot…… udeh and zuby back up bigs……. Chris J and hopefully another transfer guard off the bench. Reality self will probably still have Bobby or yesfu back but they should both be gone… I’m pretty confident zach, cuffe will be gone. I don’t see mj rice upside. He’s strong but he’s not very laterally quick, he’s not fluid with the ball and seems awkward. Shot doesn’t look elite. I rather him transfer…… this team lost really bc of no depth at the guard. Bobby yesfu and mj rice were awful this year. One good bench guard would have changed KUs chances
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RE: Hog Wild Game Thread
I somewhat agree. I think wilson around that screen had the potential to shoot a 3 instead of drive. I think everyone gets the reasoning for the quick 2 etc. also I think we’ve all seen people force a bad 3 point look. Generally speaking I agree though under 15 second you should go 3 if you can get that look. I don’t know how many times they say get the quick 2 but it’s not always that easy. The guy misses an awkward drive or it takes too long to get that quick 2. Or they get fouled and miss the free throws from the drive……Ku in general did run the play correctly. Here’s the thing though after you make the shot/free throws, you can’t just let the star player whose made a ton of free throws just catch the ball so easily. Bc you essentially are giving them back the two points. After wilson Made his free throw. Without having to be freed up on a screen their best player just caught the ball so quickly. Poor execution by ku!!!..… in my feeling with this team they should have gone 3 to tie but oh well…… also not subbing in a second big on that crucial missed rebound on the free throw near the end was frustrating
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RE: Way Too Early Line-up and Player Thoughts
I think yesfu is still potentially a big bench piece. We are offensively limited in some ways and he has some much explosiveness and ability to score that others don’t have. Bobby and jaun are defensive pass first guys and poor shooters. in certain matchups we need yesfu!
Udeh definitely should be the starting center as we move forward. Love kj as an energy guy and defensive bench guy but not the starter yet…He really needs to grow offensively to play more.
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RE: Box Score Musings
Grady obviously looks awesome and legit! I thought udeh showed more this game. Defensively he contested the rim and he slid his feet better. Definitely looks like the starting center by half way through the season for sure…… Big missing piece has to be Mj rice. McDonald’s all American yet to play, who is suppose to be a scorer. Yesfu and mj rice; one of those has to be a go to bench scorer for this team to reach its ceiling.
I’m not on the Bobby P train yet. Good on ball defender. I don’t see the elite to the rim athleticism. Doesn’t shoot open looks. He hit one three but so does Dajuan. I feel like he takes up the same role as Harris. I think he’s a decent player don’t get me wrong but I don’t see the hype of this potential elite ku guard. More of a great role player ceiling. Russel rob level.
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RE: Big 12 Expansion
Sure other things are on, nba and nhl. nba does have their time slot on espn etc. but espn, fox, cbs devote a ton of main tv nights showing college basketball. If it had very little coverage/following they would show way more nba games but they don’t. College Bball would be only on espn 2 or plus. Pretty much all Monday-Wednesday on espn, espn 2, espn + etc is college Bball. Almost all Saturday is college basketball. Big portion of Sunday for the big ten is on cbs. Most of the nba is on tnt.
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RE: Big 12 Expansion
Probably so. But basketball does have more games and more nights throughout the week. Like football has pretty much one day, so a one day game might have more, but what about the cumulative effect of a whole week of games. I get that it doesn’t matter compared to Football but I feel like it still has television value when it’s like literally the only thing on outside of the nfl Jan-March. Anyway hopefully it all works out
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RE: Big 12 Expansion
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So we were third in revenue. Way higher then other big 12 teams. AAU membership and we have a lot of the KC market, which sure isn’t huge but still a decent market that the big ten doesn’t have…. I guess I don’t get how Bball doesn’t play into this. So all of these TV deals that are driving this are only football related. Literally one of the most televised things in the winter is college Bball. College football doesn’t carry the whole winter. So the UK vs KU Bball matchups have no value over a mediocre Iowa football team vs ucla football? Like I get getting the best football you can, but duke ku etc have such a Bball following. How would that not drive the needle a bit for the TV contracts, to include KU vs ucla, KU MsU etc