@patoh3 said in Are you watching Peterson's clinic in the McD's Game?:
@SlimShaddy54 Honey crisps are a type of apple that are sweet, juicy, and have a crisp bite.
My favorite. Good producers too
@patoh3 said in Are you watching Peterson's clinic in the McD's Game?:
@SlimShaddy54 Honey crisps are a type of apple that are sweet, juicy, and have a crisp bite.
My favorite. Good producers too
@BShark will it cap the earnings? Appearance fees can be very high if not.
Is bawlin’ 10 a hacker?
@TYOHawk said in The portal.:
@dylans said in The portal.:
@FarmerJayhawk said in The portal.:
Heard Auburn’s number for Flory is around $3m
Need a salary cap. It would be more interesting to see how big schools budget their resources as opposed to just outspending everyone Yankees style. More interesting (at least for me- I like the numbers side too) as well as more competitive.
Isn’t the revenue sharing more or less about to put a salary cap on things?
Maybe. Supposedly. Depends on outside revenue streams. I’m not sure if NIL will 100% fall under that umbrella or if it’s just a second pot of gold for the players. 20.5 mil for all sports in total seems like less than is being spent currently.
@FarmerJayhawk said in The portal.:
Heard Auburn’s number for Flory is around $3m
Need a salary cap. It would be more interesting to see how big schools budget their resources as opposed to just outspending everyone Yankees style. More interesting (at least for me- I like the numbers side too) as well as more competitive.
@nuleafjhawk said in The portal.:
@dylans I’ll tell you why I don’t like them making money. Because I’m old and old school. In my world, college kids get free room and board, free tuition and a free education. That’s enough. It’s more than enough. Believe what you want to but money will destroy college sports. I’ll guarantee you that I’m not the only one who feels this way.
Oh I mostly fall into feeling that way too. It’s just not an easily defensible position given introspection. Scholarship’s for players only seems like enough because we had to pay our own way or earn it thru academics which isn’t celebrated. If I did anything that drew 15,300 people and a tv crew to boot, I’d want paid too! If you really want to get disgusted look up Internet personalities salaries. But I digress.
College basketball is ruined because the foundation was based upon indentured servants who have broken free. Now the structure is inadequate because the NCAA couldn’t fathom paying for their labor and the ramifications of doing so. Poor leadership is a poor reason to not pay for their labor.
The portal plays into the madness. Free transfers with a bidding war for services and no salary cap. What could ever go wrong? I hate it, but it was inevitable.
@nuleafjhawk said in The portal.:
@dylans I watch the NFL also (mostly the Chiefs) and it doesn’t bother me. Why? Because they mostly have gone to college, got a job and are getting paid because they were deemed worthy to play in the NFL. College is different (in my mind) - they haven’t paid their dues. They’re just money hungry little punks, most of whom will never set foot in a professional sports arena.
I wonder why someone else earning money bothers some? As you say, “most will never be able to set foot in a professional sports arena” and get paid. Meanwhile the program is making millions off of their backs. I don’t mind them maximizing what they get paid in what is a very short earning window in their life. I just would like some stability too. Both can be achieved with better structure.
Paying dues… I get the premise, but longer tenure doesn’t mean better at your job. Sometimes quite the opposite. Most geniuses have made their impact by 27 - this is the same, but physical genius instead of intellectual.
Need contracts in the ncaa. Until then it’s just a yearly bidding war for each player that you lured in with money. Traditional recruiting has been corrupted.
Can you guess which two big 8 teams are on the list? I’ll give you the first one KU. lol
I watch the NFL and enjoy it. Their pay doesn’t affect me in the least bit. Same goes for any hard working college kid that wants to get paid, they should be able to make a very good wage. Does an 18 year old out earning the average fan put them off?
The money isn’t the issue, roster construction is. There needs to be some form of stability for this to work. Pros work under contract. Be it a one year contract or multiple years, you know what you’re getting. This allows the GM/coach to construct a roster with some form of future vision/growth in mind.
The current ncaa/calipari model isn’t for coaches who develop players. Coaches like Self do better with continuity, unfortunately this last year the continuity was Hunter, Dejuan, and KJ - more glue guys than take charge leaders. And zero continuity for next season.
It will be interesting to see how it plays out. I don’t have very high expectations currently, which is a different place to be in than the last couple decades.
I’m ready for mock draft season to end and the real deal to go down! The player highlights are enjoyable during the draft.
If Bill Self is concerned about what fans think he needs to retire.
@Texas-Hawk-10 Someone should tell the “world wide leader in sports” they say his recruitment is not very advanced. lol
I come here for KU basketball only. Careful @approxinfinity the “other stuff” has driven off many of the old posters. I mostly use the block feature on people whom can’t stick to KU basketball.
Any chance for Alijah Arenas? Would be salty pairing him with DP!
Passmore was a top 50 recruit? Never saw even a flash from him. Maybe the next stop he will live up to his HS ranking.
Golden 39
Oats 50
Beard 52
Self 62
IF Bill decides to retire I don’t want an old man that will at only effectively coach at KU a decade. I’d hope for a young up and comer like Bill was when he was hired. Or Roy before Bill. I still think by far the best scenario is for Self to come back reinvigorated.
I remember 14 years of Williams with zero championships. I remember the trouble LB caused the program, but also the championship he brought. I don’t remember this level of sustained success under any other coach. It’ll be a huge loss when Bill retires and he’ll be very difficult to replace.
Kansas math though, so KU should be better in the fans expectations.
Yikes on the prospective list, say it isn’t so Bill!
Golden - sent pics of his junk to a co-ed
Oats - players facilitated a murder
Beard - wife beater.
All very good coaches, but of very questionable character. Would prefer a better person help to lead the young players into adulthood.
Is Brad Steven’s really not an option?!? lol I know. I know…
@BShark said in Swirling Bill Rumors:
@Kcmatt7 Yeah I think only complete bozos are actually rooting for him to leave.
Amen
Anyone know where Pop Isaacs is headed? Probably Houston to torment KU further! lol. He’s a nice player.
@wissox I’m still mad at Purdue for 1994. lol. Nearly every season ending loss stings. This year not so much.
@BShark said in Recruiting Notes:
He’s been trying and it won’t happen
Good eye for talent. If it was my lady I’d be pissed, but recruiting is war. And now you get to recruit every single player every year. Who knows what person is in their ear?
@BeddieKU23 said in The portal.:
Lots of movement in the Big 12 so far.
TCU- (Allette, Collins)
West Virginia (Powell, Tenner, Devries, Hansberry)
Baylor (Asemota, Love, Adegbola)
Iowa St (Jackson, Watson)
UCF (Sellers, Hendricks, Machowski, Williams)
Utah (Wahlin, Lovering, Little, Erickson)
Arizona St (Sanon)
Sanon to St John’s.
Back in the 90s there was a St John’s player on the cover of SI. The way his shirt was folded covered up the S. I wanted to know who played for Taco John’s?!?
Griffin seemed like he could be a KU guy. Never seemed confident or comfortable though. Storr…smh
@nuleafjhawk the recruiting profile was different. The timeline much shorter. But the same amount of nattys.
She’s at UConn women’s team. It’s a good fit. They are doing quite well.
All I want are tall, long, athletic guys with a good shot, instinctively rebound, out hustle the opponent, and play lights out defense. I think it’s a reasonable expectation of Bill to fill the roster with this type of player. lol
Hudy used to put on too much bulk and players lost explosiveness. The new guy doesn’t seem to put on enough for the rigors of the Big12. Maybe a new trainer is in line or maybe a different group of players will change our opinion.
Dejuan doesn’t have an ounce of body fat on him, he could be limited by genetics. Hunter surely is as well. I have a 7ft friend that I grew up with - he ate and ate and lifted weights and was a bean pole until his 30s. The next guy over would look at weights and get swole.
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In their 40s is when they’ll gain weight. lol
@approxinfinity Bill is known for player development. If they didn’t improve that’s another indictment of the players. But in this case it’s likely more of a case of being the oldest team in the ncaa. All the talent is old or flory and flory did improve.
Been thinking about the portal. I wish the ncaa would grant a fifth year of eligibility to players that play all five for one university. A little reward for loyalty.
I would be fine if a mid major never wins another second round game in my life. I have never turned on the tv for George mason or bucknell. I’m not even watching now so maybe my opinion doesn’t count. I only care if KU is playing - definitely a (single) blue blood homer.
@SlimShaddy54 said in NCAA Tournament Discussion:
You realize the Big 12 is - – - 9-1 so far in the tourney ? – we won - -6 out of 7 first round games and then we went 3 =3 today/tonight, I’d say that’s not to shabby
Nope. Only saw one Big12 game. It was a bit of a disappointment.
@BShark Noah Shelby should never play a meaningful minute for Kansas judging by his career so far. KU needs practices players too.
I’m curious how the roster will be filled out. The starting 5 doesn’t appear to be signed yet.
Bob Davis passed away. Wish he had a better seasons end for a send off.
I’d like to see Izzo beat Duke in the championship game so we can all wonder what could have been had the team only jelled.
@BShark said in What does “faith in Bill” mean?:
@RockkChalkk I do fully believe if KJ doesn’t get hurt KU wins. That sucked the life out of the team.
The life that Hunter hadn’t already stolen. His plodding pace was brutal.
@bskeet That soulless AI created Coke commercial… shudder. It’s like auto tune. Makes me appreciate real artists all the more.
With very few returning players I hope a nucleus of young talent is brought together that will carry the “Jayhawk way” forward for the next several years. Unfortunately it will more likely be a bunch of free agent hires.
While watching double A basketball (it’s more like AA baseball than the ncaa) beats the other minor leagues - Euro and G league, it’s not what it used to be. For better or worse.
@rockchalkjayhawk I feel like I won by not filling one out for the first time since 1998. On to other pursuits as this form of entertainment didn’t work out this year. I am personally enjoying the NFL offseason. Lots of bs storylines that will dissolve once the pads are on. What will my favorite team do with their 15mil in cap space? Ooh I’m on pins and needles. lol it’s not the tournament with KU in it, but I’m having fun distracting myself from things that matter (real life____fill in your own stuff I’m sure it’s worse than a losing a game, if not count yourself blessed ) sports are fun! …less so when you lose, but sure beats the hell out of everything else that’s going on. So I’m looking forward to KU’s offseason and the speculation of how the season will turn out. I hope it’s not an other preseason #1 ranking, but rather something more reasonable with room to grow.
Need to surround Peterson with talent. It’ll be nice to have some nba talent on the team again.
@approxinfinity Is it better to be a star for St John’s or KU? Asking for a friend.
@patoh3 said in Lets Dance - Arkansas vs KU:
@wissox Zuby and Udeh left because they were recruited over with more money thrown at Dickinson. That is related to coaches not assessing appropriately the ceiling that the players have and going after fool’s gold (Dickinson) when you had 2 bigs that would most likely be playing for KU if not for the portal and NIL. The only question is whether Zuby would develop into the player he currently is if he stayed at KU.
That’s a sign of the time. Before a starter would not have just tucked his tail between his legs and run off because a new player came in. That happened every offseason in college and the pros. Grow up or slink away into the void.
Zuby would have played for KU, he was a starter! He chose a path that would challenge him less. Maybe he’s overcome his pussifiacion, but I bet when push comes to shove he buckles on the court and in real life. Character matters.
@rockchalkjayhawk said in Lets Dance - Arkansas vs KU:
I’ll list the obviously desperate acts Bill Self miraculously resorted to tonight (finally – and they worked):
– Zone defense. Stupid effer could have done this much earlier in the season to help us out a bit???
Smart to no give the opponents tape. Bill breaks out the zone most years in the tournament only. It messes up the other team bad - look how poorly prepared Cal was for it even though Bill has done it to him in the tournament before!
AI is dumb. Woo hoo! Long live humanity
@BeddieKU23 said in Lets Dance - Arkansas vs KU:
Can’t rebound nothing
Zone that they never play or have length to rebound out of like Baylor. Give and get
@drgnslayr or whatever brings him out of his shell. That used to work. Now my young help quits if you don’t use the proper motivational techniques and sometimes even if you do!