Super Tuesday
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So many scenarios running through my mind…
Never before had I been so undecided at the moment of staring at a ballot.
Is Bloomberg hoping to split the moderate vote so that Bernie gets nominated by the Democratic party and he can be then run as the moderate independent candidate against Bernie?
Is Warren still in leveraging her position with Biden, by staying in, asking for the vice presidency?
What about Buttigieg and Amy? Both met with Biden and are endorsing him. What are they negotiating for by dropping out pre-Super Tuesday? If Amy can’t gift Minnesota to Biden, what does it say about her as a Veep candidate?
Does Bernie get out the latino and young vote and win Texas? Is Texas the most important sign for Bernie’s campaign, even if they aren’t going red in the general?
Will Bloomberg cut into Biden enough to give it to Bernie?
Would an instant runoff primary in all 50 states make Bloomberg less of a factor or make it worse?
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@approxinfinity Where’s Pat Paulsen when we need him?
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I voted for Biden this morning. Pretty easy decision for me given NC doesn’t love Bloomberg.
Given the polls that came out this morning, I think it’s pretty likely Biden fights Bernie to a delegate draw. Biden will sweep the South (with the possible exception of Texas) and Bernie will run strong in Texas, California, and the northeast. Warren has the money for a long slog, but at some point she has to understand her campaign has entered the zombie stage. Yeah it’s still going, but it’s effectively dead.
I expect Bloomberg to pull a Steyer and crater. I highly doubt he’ll win a single state and will probably fail to be viable in a majority.
The early vote is key. For example, over 800,000 ballots were cast before today just in North Carolina. There are millions already banked in California. The early vote won’t be friendly to Biden, so he’s going to have to run up the score on Election Day to really cut into Bernie’s lead. I think he will considering ED voters tend to be older and better off financially than early voters. There’s a good chance Amy is actually viable in Minnesota even after dropping out. Her internals had her way ahead before SC.
I think the key is the delegate math with both Bloomberg and Warren. Both are foils to Biden and Bernie, respectively. Warren has a chance at getting the majority of delegates from Massachusetts, which would deny Bernie a batch he needs to hit 1991. Bloomberg may deny Biden some CD delegates in Minnesota, Vermont, and Utah. If he hits viability in more states than I think, he’ll peel off some statewide delegates from Biden. Same applies to Warren. If she’s viable in a bunch of these states, it could deny Bernie absolute majority delegate hauls.
In short, I think the race becomes a long slog till Milwaukee. Next Tuesday looks fairly pro-Bernie, the 17th looks a lot better for Biden, the Acela primary in April looks better for Biden, May looks to lean Sanders. I’d be somewhat surprised at this point if someone hit 1991.
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Bloomberg is a rep trying to buy an election. Sanders is a socialist. Biden (poor guy) is losing his mental abilities. Warren has told more lies than trump. Man how far has the Dem party fallen. Not being a hater, just saying. Do you think any of these candidates can unite the dem party and beat trump? I’m not so sure. To many political games by Nancy and chuck. Almost makes me think they did it on purpose. To take one for the team. If that makes sense?
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@DoubleDD You make no sense. Crazy town is over there that way —>
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Well Nancy and chuck are old school libs. Today’s dem party is hardly even close to old school. All candidates on the dem ticket except Biden ( who doesn’t know where he is, or who he is talking too half the time) are hard socialist. They want to give away everything for free. Without any real plan of paying for it other than raising taxes to a place no American can make it. So a theory grant you? Maybe Nancy and chuck took one fir the team, and submarines their own party? Just a thought. Hardly crazy. But I’ll leave if you want me too?
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Bloomberg is dropping out.
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Really? Haven’t seen that one. Yet good news
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@DoubleDD said in Super Tuesday:
Really? Haven’t seen that one. Yet good news
Yep. It’ll be a death march to Milwaukee. Guessing Bloomberg turns his cannons on Bernie and serves as Biden’s de facto Super PAC, but gets to buy time at the low candidate rate instead of the PAC rate.
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Makes sense.
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@approxinfinity Let me help…there isn’t a democrat on the ballot that is worth it. Hope that helps…
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@Bwag said in Super Tuesday:
@approxinfinity Let me help…there isn’t a democrat on the ballot that is worth it. Hope that helps…
Every single one of them is a better human being than Trump. Nowhere to go but up.
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@approxinfinity Was not ever a fan of Trump…but sometimes, options are limited.
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@Bwag Well look, any of the democrats would appoint a bunch of qualified people to positions in their cabinet. That’s why their character matters. They aren’t going to gift their cabinet positions to a bunch of unqualified rich people in return for their loyalty.
The presidency is a team.
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Other than the tweets? Trump has been spot on.
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Trump is a dangerous idiot that needs to be thrown to the curb.
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Other than Biden. Any of the Dem candidates will turn this country upside down, and not for the better
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Lowest unemployment rates across the board. New trade agreements. No new wars? Yea we don’t want that.
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Wait, is this the thread for delusional trump supporters who think China pays tariffs and bailing out farmers isn’t socialism?
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You won’t be happy till all Americans are in the streets fighting over a roll of toilet paper. Just like all the other socialist countries. Smile
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… that was a long pause while googling “who pays tariffs”
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went with the fighting over toilet paper argument.
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@DoubleDD Underemployed people. Poor wages. Cozying up to and protecting dictators. Undermining our alliances. Calling the free press the enemy of the people. Disparaging all people that disagree with him. Infecting the justice department with toxic partisanship. I mean the list goes on and on and on…
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I didn’t google nothing. It’s called trade? Maybe you would like Americans farmers to go back to be at the mercy of the communist country China
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That a lot to say any proof? As you like to say. Smile
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@DoubleDD Maybe you should use google
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Except the disparaging part. You nailed it.
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DoubleDD is drinking the capitalist kool-aid. Chugging even.
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How is socialism compared to a trade deal. Maybe you should google common sense? Smile
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Turned into Stupid Tuesday in this discussion.
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Sign me up.
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Name one great socialist country?
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@DoubleDD Bernie or Warren wouldn’t even turn this country remotely socialist. Our oligarchs would literally never allow that. The only reason the first world still retains social welfare systems is because we’re the head of the empire - house servants to the like of Haiti’s field slaves. The bare minimum is provided to acquire consent for the system. Hungry peasants result in revolution in a matter of days, gotta keep just enough of them fed and happy to maintain stability.
They’re still cutting social security, medicare, and the minimum wage. Just slowly and passively through inflation and other steadily increasing economic rents.
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Fair point? But you admit one thing that may not be true. You are banking on the house and senate to keep Bernie or warren under control. What if that doesn’t happen. Then what.
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Hell, let’s see if Bernie or Warren even gets the nomination, let alone wins the election. I for one have always had my doubts.
Let’s not talk about no new wars though, I’m sure we are bemoaning the fact that we are running out of poor countries to ransack. Iran and South America are looking like this right about now
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@DoubleDD said in Super Tuesday:
Fair point? But you admit one thing that may not be true. You are banking on the house and senate to keep Bernie or warren under control. What if that doesn’t happen. Then what.
You are overrating the reach and ability of the POTUS. Look at Obama, he was an excellent capitalist puppet while pretending to be interested in health care.
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@DoubleDD said in Super Tuesday:
Come on @BShark that is weak you have a greater mind than that. Come on
Are you arguing that America/the wealthy elite haven’t controlled other countries through oppression?
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I’m not going to bash Obama. One of the best speakers I think I’ve ever heard. Yet not sure he was a capitalist puppet. In fact he seemed to believe that America wasn’t to be the greatest nation on earth. And was trying to prepare Americans of that fact.
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@BShark said in Super Tuesday:
@DoubleDD said in Super Tuesday:
Come on @BShark that is weak you have a greater mind than that. Come on
Are you arguing that America/the wealthy elite haven’t controlled other countries through oppression?
Oh no argument from me in that note.
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Biden just introduced his wife as his sister and his sister as his wife. I think he said “I’m her wife” and then said “oh no, they switched on me”.
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@DoubleDD He was though, he talked a big game and failed to deliver anything of substance. He could have raised minimum wage in a meaningful way and did not. I believe the last thing the DNC wants is an electable truly liberal candidate.
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FYI I like uncle joe hate to see this.
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@approxinfinity said in Super Tuesday:
Biden just introduced his wife as his sister and his sister as his wife. I think he said “I’m her wife” and then said “oh no, they switched on me”.
Good grief.
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@DoubleDD said in Super Tuesday:
FYI I like uncle joe hate to see this.
This makes sense given he is Republican. :p
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Someone turn his mic down.
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@approxinfinity said in Super Tuesday:
Someone turn his mic down.
He’s been doing well today, maybe it would be best for him if he just didn’t talk anymore.
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https://twitter.com/M_Vernon/status/1235031318771138560
Okay now that’s funny.
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Wow. Protesters ran on stage right behind him. Security?
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He’s still a better person than Trump. Just pick a competent running mate.
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Ah ha. on queue he just mentioned Amy first. “We won Minnesota because of Amy Klobuchar”
