The democratic nominee
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@approxinfinity said in The democratic nominee:
@DoubleDD Trump sat on his thumbs for a month (and that’s a conservative measure) ignoring warning signs and telling the public the coronavirus wasn’t issue and that he had a natural gift for being a doctor, proclaiming the closing of the borders as a “mission accomplished” moment, and that he didn’t want the Diamond Princess included in his death tally because it would look bad, etc.
If you can’t see that this guy is a self-absorbed idiot who was distracted by petty nonsense while coronavirus was spreading in the US, and if you think that the President of the United States doesn’t have influence to help stop the spread of a global pandemic, there’s nothing I can tell you.
Which is it, very stable genius or idiot who was caught unaware? Or what, did the very stable genius realize what was happening but not do anything because it’s the governors’ job? This spin job doesn’t work.
Stop chugging the hydroxychloroquine.
Actually the hydroxychloroquine does help. Just saying. The only spin I see is trying to forget what the media, the Dem party, and Joe Biden said about a Trump closing down the country. Which appears from the conversation he didn’t have the power todo. Yet still gets blamed for not doing it earlier.
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But let’s blame trump?
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Man, I’ve seen some dumb ass trolls on message boards and forums since the birth of the internet, but we’ve got us a keeper here.
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@DanR let’s refrain from calling each other [edit] dumbasses. I can get extremely frustrated at @DoubleDD but at least he’s trying to have a conversation with people who have differing opinions which is more than we can say about our idiot president. And yes, if @theRealDonaldTrump became a user on here I guess I wouldn’t be allowed to call him an idiot anymore and my head would explode.
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@approxinfinity said in The democratic nominee:
@DanR let’s refrain from calling each other idiots. I can get extremely frustrated at @DoubleDD but at least he’s trying to have a conversation with people who have differing opinions which is more than we can say about our idiot president. And yes, if @theRealDonaldTrump became a user on here I guess I wouldn’t be allowed to call him an idiot anymore and my head would explode.
Ty appreciate the support I’m just offering a different point of view that’s all.
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@DanR I may have misread you. Was “troll” a person or an action in your post? Lol
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@DanR look at the date of my video that was mid February.
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@approxinfinity said in The democratic nominee:
@DanR I may have misread you. Was troll a person or an action in your post? Lol
Well if you want me to leave I can go? It’s your website. I can respect the wishes of the members.
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@DoubleDD the differentiation I’m making is that I read his post as calling you a dumbass troll. But he may have been saying your post was a dumbass troll. Maybe it’s semantics but I find the former more offensive. People can do dumb things and that doesn’t make them dumb. It leaves open the door to change. Humans are amazingly adaptable. That’s my point.
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To be honest I’m kind of offended. I’ve been a member of this website when it left kusports. Yet because I have some different points of view and Political believes somehow I’m a troll now? @approxinfinity I thought you created this political forum for a good conversation and debates. Yet it seems if you disagree with the core of the group well then you’re just a troll?
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@DoubleDD I do think your post was extremely misguided to @DanR 's point! Pelosi saying people shouldn’t be afraid of Chinatown has nothing to do with Donald Trump’s circus. Completely different and massive orders of magnitude more influential.
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@DoubleDD I think you are missing my point. I don’t think he should call you, the person, Mr DoubleDD a troll. However, calling your post a troll is different than calling you a troll in my mind. But it’s a nuance you may not see the difference in, and that’s fine. People have different sensibilities on that. Doesn’t matter.
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@approxinfinity said in The democratic nominee:
@DoubleDD I do think your post was extremely misguided to @DanR 's point! Pelosi saying people shouldn’t be afraid of Chinatown has nothing to do with Donald Trump’s circus. Completely different and massive orders of magnitude more influential.
Nobody is afraid of china town. The point is Nancy was holding a gathering in a public space without any thought to the virus. And this was mid February.
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Let that sink in?
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@DoubleDD @approxinfinity @DanR We have to be able to see it from the other side without insulting and fighting each other. There is truth to both sides. Have the Dems labeled virtually everything Trump has done including his initial China travel ban racist? Yes, without question. Has Trump back tracked and gave circular reasoning? Yes, without question.
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@DoubleDD ok. She shouldn’t have done that. It was ill-advised. But what’s your point? What does Nancy Pelosi walking around Chinatown have to do with the President’s clown show?
I don’t see why it’s so hard to acknowledge that Donald Trump isn’t qualified to be president, rather than trying to find some comp of Nancy Pelosi out in public.
I would have done a better job as president handling this crisis. And I’m not special. I’m just some dude. There, I said it. I wasn’t wandering around Chinatown late February. I was staying tf home. So I compare the president to me, not to anyone else. And he’s a failure. Approxinfinity 4 Prez 2028!
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@kjayhawks it seems like there’s a whole lot more to Trump’s handling of coronavirus than accusations of racism and circular reasoning…
To your point, yeah, we need to stay civil. When Trump is gone we will heal and move on.
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@approxinfinity said in The democratic nominee:
@DoubleDD ok. She shouldn’t have done that. It was ill-advised. But what’s your point? What does Nancy Pelosi walking around Chinatown have to do with the President’s clown show?
I don’t see why it’s so hard to acknowledge that Donald Trump isn’t qualified to be president, rather than trying to find some comp of Nancy Pelosi out in public.
I would have done a better job as president handling this crisis. And I’m not special. I’m just some dude. There, I said it. I wasn’t wandering around Chinatown late February. I was staying tf home. So I compare the president to me, not to anyone else. And he’s a failure. Approxinfinity 4 Prez 2028!
The point is the Dem party has defied the president at every turn. Ever think how many people got infected that day? Yet we sit here and blame Trump. No blame goes to Nancy
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@approxinfinity said in The democratic nominee:
@kjayhawks it seems like there’s a whole lot more to Trump’s handling of coronavirus than accusations of racism and circular reasoning…
To your point, yeah, we need to stay civil. When Trump is gone we will heal and move on.
Trump 2020 he’s earned it. Even if he is a narcissist. Yes I agree.
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@kjayhawks said in The democratic nominee:
@DoubleDD @approxinfinity @DanR We have to be able to see it from the other side without insulting and fighting each other. There is truth to both sides. Have the Dems labeled virtually everything Trump has done including his initial China travel ban racist? Yes, without question. Has Trump back tracked and gave circular reasoning? Yes, without question.
I’m not the one calling names. I’m just posting a different point of view. I guess it’s like how a conservative speaker can’t speak on on a college campus anymore for fear of their life. And conservatives are nazi’s?
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The point is the Dem party has defied the president at every turn. Ever think how many people got infected that day? Yet we sit here and blame Trump. No blame goes to Nancy
Nancy Pelosi walked around Chinatown on the Feb 24th… How is that defying the President? Your narrative is scrambled here…
Here’s what President Trump was doing at the same time:
Feb. 13
In an interview with Geraldo Rivera, Trump characterized the threat of the virus in the U.S. by saying: “In our country, we only have, basically, 12 cases, and most of those people are recovering and some cases fully recovered. So it’s actually less.”
Feb. 24
In a tweet, Trump wrote, “The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA. We are in contact with everyone and all relevant countries. CDC & World Health have been working hard and very smart. Stock Market starting to look very good to me!”
Feb. 26
In a news conference, Trump said: “When you have 15 people, and the 15 within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero, that’s a pretty good job we’ve done.”
Seems like she’s jaunting around Chinatown with Trump’s blessing? Maybe she actually thought he was making informed statements…
Donald Trump has earned nothing except a swift kick to the curb.
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@DoubleDD said in The democratic nominee:
@kjayhawks said in The democratic nominee:
@DoubleDD @approxinfinity @DanR We have to be able to see it from the other side without insulting and fighting each other. There is truth to both sides. Have the Dems labeled virtually everything Trump has done including his initial China travel ban racist? Yes, without question. Has Trump back tracked and gave circular reasoning? Yes, without question.
I’m not the one calling names. I’m just posting a different point of view. I guess it’s like how a conservative speaker can’t speak on on a college campus anymore for fear of their life. And conservatives are nazi’s?
Some extreme trolling right here. I didn’t call it dumbass trolling. Just extreme trolling.
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OK I’m done. It’s not worth it. I need to do something more productive. Good night.
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@approxinfinity maybe you’re the one trolling? Only blame Our president but never blame anybody else?
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@DoubleDD Sure, I blame you and 61,943,669 other people that voted for Donald Trump. Duh!
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@DanR lol!
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@approxinfinity said in The democratic nominee:
@DoubleDD said in The democratic nominee:
@kjayhawks said in The democratic nominee:
@DoubleDD @approxinfinity @DanR We have to be able to see it from the other side without insulting and fighting each other. There is truth to both sides. Have the Dems labeled virtually everything Trump has done including his initial China travel ban racist? Yes, without question. Has Trump back tracked and gave circular reasoning? Yes, without question.
I’m not the one calling names. I’m just posting a different point of view. I guess it’s like how a conservative speaker can’t speak on on a college campus anymore for fear of their life. And conservatives are nazi’s?
Some extreme trolling right here. I didn’t call it dumbass trolling. Just extreme trolling.
Yet is it not true? Are not conservatives refrained on college campuses? For the colleges can’t give them the protection needed. What are these kids being taught? Doesn’t the media treat and even says the rep party is Nazism? Just saying
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@approxinfinity said in The democratic nominee:
@DoubleDD Sure, I blame you and 61,943,669 other people that voted for Donald Trump. Duh!
Lmao
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@Crimsonorblue22 said in The democratic nominee:
@DanR lol!
Ah there she is. She claims to be a Republican but calls pence a puppet? Lol pence is far right as you can get. Duh
The man won’t even have a meal or meeting with another woman unless his wife is there.
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@DoubleDD said in The democratic nominee:
@approxinfinity said in The democratic nominee:
@DoubleDD said in The democratic nominee:
@kjayhawks said in The democratic nominee:
@DoubleDD @approxinfinity @DanR We have to be able to see it from the other side without insulting and fighting each other. There is truth to both sides. Have the Dems labeled virtually everything Trump has done including his initial China travel ban racist? Yes, without question. Has Trump back tracked and gave circular reasoning? Yes, without question.
I’m not the one calling names. I’m just posting a different point of view. I guess it’s like how a conservative speaker can’t speak on on a college campus anymore for fear of their life. And conservatives are nazi’s?
Some extreme trolling right here. I didn’t call it dumbass trolling. Just extreme trolling.
Yet is it not true? Are not conservatives refrained on college campuses? For the colleges can’t give them the protection needed. What are these kids being taught? Doesn’t the media treat and even says the rep party is Nazism? Just saying
As an instructor at a college campus I can say a couple things on this. 1) liberals are much more resistant to hearing opposing ideas than conservatives 2) this doesn’t necessarily mean conservatives are oppressed 3) I’ve had conservatives come up to me and say thank you for trying to include all sides of a conversation since they’re obviously a distinct minority.
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@DoubleDD hey duh, see if you can get this right, last time. I’ve been a rep. all my life til trump came along. Voted republican for all the the presidents. Not everything else though, just prez. I’ve had close friends on the other side and I’ve always been a moderate. But then the dumbest, biggest liar, fake Christian, and cheater, etc came along. I can see right thru him. I use to watch the apprentice. I seriously can not find one morally good thing to say about him. The more he opens his mouth the worse he gets. I seriously can’t understand how anyone can believe anything he says. My only understanding is they only watch fox and are spoon fed
. Any person can fact check his lies. I’m shocked you can’t see thru them. Do you watch his press conferences? I like the press! They ask him hard questions that piss him off cause they catch him in lies. Back to your question, I switched to democrat at the KS state fair after the election. I never vote straight party. Done!
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@FarmerJayhawk said in The democratic nominee:
@DoubleDD said in The democratic nominee:
@approxinfinity said in The democratic nominee:
@DoubleDD said in The democratic nominee:
@kjayhawks said in The democratic nominee:
@DoubleDD @approxinfinity @DanR We have to be able to see it from the other side without insulting and fighting each other. There is truth to both sides. Have the Dems labeled virtually everything Trump has done including his initial China travel ban racist? Yes, without question. Has Trump back tracked and gave circular reasoning? Yes, without question.
I’m not the one calling names. I’m just posting a different point of view. I guess it’s like how a conservative speaker can’t speak on on a college campus anymore for fear of their life. And conservatives are nazi’s?
Some extreme trolling right here. I didn’t call it dumbass trolling. Just extreme trolling.
Yet is it not true? Are not conservatives refrained on college campuses? For the colleges can’t give them the protection needed. What are these kids being taught? Doesn’t the media treat and even says the rep party is Nazism? Just saying
As an instructor at a college campus I can say a couple things on this. 1) liberals are much more resistant to hearing opposing ideas than conservatives 2) this doesn’t necessarily mean conservatives are oppressed 3) I’ve had conservatives come up to me and say thank you for trying to include all sides of a conversation since they’re obviously a distinct minority.
You are the exception. I believe you. You are smarter and better at expressing your thoughts than I. You command much respect. I notice when you go against the grain everybody backs off. A tip of my cap. But even you must admit conservatives don’t get the same respect as radical speakers on college campuses?
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@Crimsonorblue22 said in The democratic nominee:
@DoubleDD hey duh, see if you can get this right, last time. I’ve been a rep. all my life til trump came along. Voted republican for all the the presidents. Not everything else though, just prez. I’ve had close friends on the other side and I’ve always been a moderate. But then the dumbest, biggest liar, fake Christian, and cheater, etc came along. I can see right thru him. I use to watch the apprentice. I seriously can not find one morally good thing to say about him. The more he opens his mouth the worse he gets. I seriously can’t understand how anyone can believe anything he says. My only understanding is they only watch fox and are spoon fed
. Any person can fact check his lies. I’m shocked you can’t see thru them. Do you watch his press conferences? I like the press! They ask him hard questions that piss him off cause they catch him in lies. Back to your question, I switched to democrat at the KS state fair after the election. I never vote straight party. Done!We were done along time ago. I wish you nothing but the best.
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@FarmerJayhawk you are a dying breed. Liberalism doesn’t mean what it used too.
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@DoubleDD said in The democratic nominee:
@FarmerJayhawk said in The democratic nominee:
@DoubleDD said in The democratic nominee:
@approxinfinity said in The democratic nominee:
@DoubleDD said in The democratic nominee:
@kjayhawks said in The democratic nominee:
@DoubleDD @approxinfinity @DanR We have to be able to see it from the other side without insulting and fighting each other. There is truth to both sides. Have the Dems labeled virtually everything Trump has done including his initial China travel ban racist? Yes, without question. Has Trump back tracked and gave circular reasoning? Yes, without question.
I’m not the one calling names. I’m just posting a different point of view. I guess it’s like how a conservative speaker can’t speak on on a college campus anymore for fear of their life. And conservatives are nazi’s?
Some extreme trolling right here. I didn’t call it dumbass trolling. Just extreme trolling.
Yet is it not true? Are not conservatives refrained on college campuses? For the colleges can’t give them the protection needed. What are these kids being taught? Doesn’t the media treat and even says the rep party is Nazism? Just saying
As an instructor at a college campus I can say a couple things on this. 1) liberals are much more resistant to hearing opposing ideas than conservatives 2) this doesn’t necessarily mean conservatives are oppressed 3) I’ve had conservatives come up to me and say thank you for trying to include all sides of a conversation since they’re obviously a distinct minority.
You are the exception. I believe you. You are smarter and better at expressing your thoughts than I. You command much respect. I notice when you go against the grain everybody backs off. A tip of my cap. But even you must admit conservatives don’t get the same respect as radical speakers on college campuses?
Oh there’s no doubt about that. We just had Mitch Daniels on campus in the fall and both faculty & students were like “lol why is this Republican here” even though he’s the President of Purdue, 2 term governor of Indiana, President of Eli Lilly, and OMB Director under Bush 43. We could invite some rando lefty like Krystal Ball and she’d pack our biggest auditorium. There’s just not that many people interested in center right ideas on campuses unfortunately. The one exception I can think of was ironically at KSU. I got roped into getting Herman Cain of all people to give a talk at KSU and the place was PACKED.
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So true
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@BShark a certain Aerosmith song comes to mind.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in The democratic nominee:
@DoubleDD said in The democratic nominee:
@approxinfinity said in The democratic nominee:
@DoubleDD said in The democratic nominee:
@kjayhawks said in The democratic nominee:
@DoubleDD @approxinfinity @DanR We have to be able to see it from the other side without insulting and fighting each other. There is truth to both sides. Have the Dems labeled virtually everything Trump has done including his initial China travel ban racist? Yes, without question. Has Trump back tracked and gave circular reasoning? Yes, without question.
I’m not the one calling names. I’m just posting a different point of view. I guess it’s like how a conservative speaker can’t speak on on a college campus anymore for fear of their life. And conservatives are nazi’s?
Some extreme trolling right here. I didn’t call it dumbass trolling. Just extreme trolling.
Yet is it not true? Are not conservatives refrained on college campuses? For the colleges can’t give them the protection needed. What are these kids being taught? Doesn’t the media treat and even says the rep party is Nazism? Just saying
As an instructor at a college campus I can say a couple things on this. 1) liberals are much more resistant to hearing opposing ideas than conservatives 2) this doesn’t necessarily mean conservatives are oppressed 3) I’ve had conservatives come up to me and say thank you for trying to include all sides of a conversation since they’re obviously a distinct minority.
Reading this board would convince me conservatives are more resistant to hearing opposing ideas with @DoubleDD as the prime example. Conservatives right now, led by trump are looking for every opportunity to play the victim and it’s as sincere as those procedural arguments you brought up earlier. It’s trumps playbook over and over. Take the position of the attacked so that it looks like punching up even though he has the highest office in the land and the only direction he can punch (or would ever have the courage to) is down. Notice how in most of the clips of him berating reporters, they are women and often women of color. He is the typical bully who is afraid of everyone even though he’s the biggest kid on the playground. So tired of the conservatives who accuse others of being snowflakes and the PC police having absolutely no spine to handle legitimate criticism.
If we think back to the one thing Jaybate was consistent on in his posts it was that the world is rarely one way or the other, it is always both. Are there people who criticize trumps every move without regard for whether they even might agree with it? Yes. Does that mean other critiques are automatically null and void?
I’ve seen @approxinfinity admit he was wrong, ask questions, and appreciate opposing views that he doesn’t share. I’ve seen most other folks on the board do the same thing. But when it comes to Trump there are some who simply refuse to see the plain facts for what they are and I don’t think this post or any other will change that but it’s disappointing as hell and makes me afraid for the future of our country, honestly. A country I love, despite what others may tell you I believe or feel.
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@benshawks08 said in The democratic nominee:
@FarmerJayhawk said in The democratic nominee:
@DoubleDD said in The democratic nominee:
@approxinfinity said in The democratic nominee:
@DoubleDD said in The democratic nominee:
@kjayhawks said in The democratic nominee:
@DoubleDD @approxinfinity @DanR We have to be able to see it from the other side without insulting and fighting each other. There is truth to both sides. Have the Dems labeled virtually everything Trump has done including his initial China travel ban racist? Yes, without question. Has Trump back tracked and gave circular reasoning? Yes, without question.
I’m not the one calling names. I’m just posting a different point of view. I guess it’s like how a conservative speaker can’t speak on on a college campus anymore for fear of their life. And conservatives are nazi’s?
Some extreme trolling right here. I didn’t call it dumbass trolling. Just extreme trolling.
Yet is it not true? Are not conservatives refrained on college campuses? For the colleges can’t give them the protection needed. What are these kids being taught? Doesn’t the media treat and even says the rep party is Nazism? Just saying
As an instructor at a college campus I can say a couple things on this. 1) liberals are much more resistant to hearing opposing ideas than conservatives 2) this doesn’t necessarily mean conservatives are oppressed 3) I’ve had conservatives come up to me and say thank you for trying to include all sides of a conversation since they’re obviously a distinct minority.
Reading this board would convince me conservatives are more resistant to hearing opposing ideas with @DoubleDD as the prime example. Conservatives right now, led by trump are looking for every opportunity to play the victim and it’s as sincere as those procedural arguments you brought up earlier. It’s trumps playbook over and over. Take the position of the attacked so that it looks like punching up even though he has the highest office in the land and the only direction he can punch (or would ever have the courage to) is down. Notice how in most of the clips of him berating reporters, they are women and often women of color. He is the typical bully who is afraid of everyone even though he’s the biggest kid on the playground. So tired of the conservatives who accuse others of being snowflakes and the PC police having absolutely no spine to handle legitimate criticism.
If we think back to the one thing Jaybate was consistent on in his posts it was that the world is rarely one way or the other, it is always both. Are there people who criticize trumps every move without regard for whether they even might agree with it? Yes. Does that mean other critiques are automatically null and void?
I’ve seen @approxinfinity admit he was wrong, ask questions, and appreciate opposing views that he doesn’t share. I’ve seen most other folks on the board do the same thing. But when it comes to Trump there are some who simply refuse to see the plain facts for what they are and I don’t think this post or any other will change that but it’s disappointing as hell and makes me afraid for the future of our country, honestly. A country I love, despite what others may tell you I believe or feel.
Smile. Love a good debate. So what would you say to being accused of being a Russian spy? What you say to having a Dossier paid for by a Democratic candidate (Hillary) that said you had hookers piss on the bed Obama slept in Russia? How would you feel about being accused of Using a country (Ukraine ) to affect an election that led into a impeachment trial (even though only one person Of maybe 25 that were on the call said they felt uncomfortable ). Yet The same party Their elected nominee son who has no skills in oil and gas has a Cush job in the same country (Ukraine). The same country the Biden bragged on Video getting the prosecutor of that country fired for investigating his son?
Why any of you think Trump should trust the media is beyond me, all the evidence is there.
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See evidence to support my previous argument above^^^^
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modules:composer.user_said_in, @benshawks08, The democratic nominee
See evidence to support my previous argument above^^^^
I’m sorry. I’m in a bit of attack mode. I’m sorry. You spoke your thoughts and I was rude. Deleted my post out of respect. You should be proud of @approxinfinity he is a good dude.
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@Bwag dream on?
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@Crimsonorblue22 said in The democratic nominee:
@Bwag dream on?
That was funny. I know you don’t like me but that was funny. Nice job.
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@DoubleDD I’d say some of that comes with being the president. Obama was accused of being a muslim (as if that was a bad thing), of not being a citizen, of wearing a tan suit…
And the rest of it Trump brings on himself by defiantly refusing to: follow any governmental norms, learn and understand what he can and cannot do as president, and live on the line (or over the line) of what is appropriate behavior from an elected official.
Have you ever participated in a “good debate” because your posts are not that. You don’t defend a position, you deflect, ignore, and accuse others of wrongdoing instead of defending your guy. For example, if a student cheats on a test, accusing another student of also cheating doesn’t prove that kid didn’t cheat whether the accusation is accurate or not. Nor does the defense that some other kid stole money from my desk so cheating isn’t even bad.
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@benshawks08 said in The democratic nominee:
@DoubleDD I’d say some of that comes with being the president. Obama was accused of being a muslim (as if that was a bad thing), of not being a citizen, of wearing a tan suit…
And the rest of it Trump brings on himself by defiantly refusing to: follow any governmental norms, learn and understand what he can and cannot do as president, and live on the line (or over the line) of what is appropriate behavior from an elected official.
Have you ever participated in a “good debate” because your posts are not that. You don’t defend a position, you deflect, ignore, and accuse others of wrongdoing instead of defending your guy. For example, if a student cheats on a test, accusing another student of also cheating doesn’t prove that kid didn’t cheat whether the accusation is accurate or not. Nor does the defense that some other kid stole money from my desk so cheating isn’t even bad.
I’m sorry you feel that way. Because I feel like I’m going up against perception Created by the media and the Democratic Party. I mean have you ever heard of anybody woman or man black white green blue being wrong about everything. It seems illogical.
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@DoubleDD said in The democratic nominee:
modules:composer.user_said_in, @benshawks08, The democratic nominee
See evidence to support my previous argument above^^^^
I’m sorry. I’m in a bit of attack mode. I’m sorry. You spoke your thoughts and I was rude. Deleted my post out of respect. You should be proud of @approxinfinity he is a good dude.
I didn’t see it as I was typing my response to your earlier post. Not trying to get personal, just can’t follow your logic or argument.
