Garrett Appreciation Thread
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@jayballer73 Easy … as I read it, he was fine if Garrett transferred as a consequence of Garrett being redshirted. That’s different than saying he should transfer. And we should also, I think, understand that a valuable player in one person’s eyes is not in another person’s. That’s debatable. And until Garrett can shoot better than the third best player on a 7th grad team, it’s a valid discussion point.
So, I said a long, long time ago, if Jamari Traylor never played here, we would have been a better team. That isn’t for lack of appreciation, that’s based on my belief that his net contributions were negative relative to the next best option.
On that point, I think @Marco loses in his position on Garrett. Garrett, I think, in the proper role, provides a strong net positive. But again, until he can actually shoot the ball at a semi-competent rate, that opinion is one that can easily be contested.
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HighEliteMajor said:
@jayballer73 Easy … as I read it, he was fine if Garrett transferred as a consequence of Garrett being redshirted. That’s different than saying he should transfer. And we should also, I think, understand that a valuable player in one person’s eyes is not in another person’s. That’s debatable. And until Garrett can shoot better than the third best player on a 7th grad team, it’s a valid discussion point.
So, I said a long, long time ago, if Jamari Traylor never played here, we would have been a better team. That isn’t for lack of appreciation, that’s based on my belief that his net contributions were negative relative to the next best option.
On that point, I think @Marco loses in his position on Garrett. Garrett, I think, in the proper role, provides a strong net positive. But again, until he can actually shoot the ball at a semi-competent rate, that opinion is one that can easily be contested.
No sorry buddy I’m not sittin with this - -this guy saying Marcus hasn’t done squat - -that don’t fly with me – sorry man - -ain’t working with me - -he coming off to me as Marcus hasn’t don’t squat SO LEAVE - Marcus has done plenty
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@jayballer73 That is not the same as saying that he should
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@jayballer73 Didn’t say he hasn’t done squat, either. Relax, take a xanex.
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@Marco @Jayballer73 is loyal to his guys, ease up.
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I don’t mean to change the subject or anything, but have I mentioned what a freaking bum that Trevor " Can’t Pitch Worth a Crap" Williams really is?
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HighEliteMajor said:
@jayballer73 Easy … as I read it, he was fine if Garrett transferred as a consequence of Garrett being redshirted. That’s different than saying he should transfer. And we should also, I think, understand that a valuable player in one person’s eyes is not in another person’s. That’s debatable. And until Garrett can shoot better than the third best player on a 7th grad team, it’s a valid discussion point.
So, I said a long, long time ago, if Jamari Traylor never played here, we would have been a better team. That isn’t for lack of appreciation, that’s based on my belief that his net contributions were negative relative to the next best option.
On that point, I think @Marco loses in his position on Garrett. Garrett, I think, in the proper role, provides a strong net positive. But again, until he can actually shoot the ball at a semi-competent rate, that opinion is one that can easily be contested.
Did you see Kevin Flaherty’s article on Garrett’s shooting? He talks about how Garrett’s shot doesn’t have the same hitch in it but also has a horizontal spin, which we have discussed on here about his and Dok’s shooting. Question is: if we notice it and sports writers notice it over the past year or two, why the blank is it still the same? Doesn’t seem like fixing that problem would be nuclear physics.
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I’m with you on that… When we play teams that have a dominant offensive player (PG - 3 and sometimes 4) put Marcus on him.
Marcus is a huge weapon for us. Relieving his teammates from being stuck guarding tough assignments that can easily put them in foul trouble while they get scored on.
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Marco said:
@jayballer73 That is not the same as saying that he should
you can spin twist turn whatever the hell you want to try an say it - -bottom line you saying Marcus hasn’t don’t squat is just totally insane - he has done about for this team intangibles -a statement like that is or just goes to show how little you really know about the kid or game.
I tell ya what Coach Marco - I bet ya this I bet if you ask the Coach’s or comment how Marcus hasn’t done squat - -I know this I bet there just might speak a little different then what your opinion is - I know that much
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Marco said:
@jayballer73 Didn’t say he hasn’t done squat, either. Relax, take a xanex.
go back an read your post - -you said what does he offer - - -not squat - again twist the words around anyway you want bottom line you saying he has done squat - -if he doesn’t offer squat - then he hasn’t done sqat - doesn’t matter anymore just an insane statement - end of story thanks - take a zanex? - - could I borrow some , you got plenty? - -lmao - thanks for offering -I think me and baby Jane will stick with our 420 but appreciate it anyways - -have a great night – ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Let’s remember how suddenly Marcus became an offensive threat… until he got banged up and slowed down. That happened before his high ankle sprain, which really hampered his game.
BTW, Marcus still isn’t 100%. I’m hopeful he gets there by the end of December.
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@drgnslayr When he puts it all together, and he will put it all together … either this year or next… we’re going to feel ashamed how we dogged him.
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BTW, Trevor Williams blows chunks …
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@drgnslayr good point about his offensive game. Who was it, McBride, that said he had no idea how good Marcus is offensively. I distinctly remember the ISU game at home this past year and how Marcus was shredding the ISU defense almost every trip down the floor. Then the high ankle sprain happened and he wasn’t the same. I want that version of him this year with a plus 30% three point gun this year.
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KUSTEVE said:
@drgnslayr When he puts it all together, and he will put it all together … either this year or next… we’re going to feel ashamed how we dogged him.
hmmmm - hmmmm - psssssst hello lol - don’t see me dogging him - -ask Jenny lol
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Ruff, ruff, Lol. I’ll say this, looking forward to seeing how he fits into the rotation this season and how much time he gets. I’ll admit it, I probably seemed to be unfairly dogging on him and didn’t mean to be so blunt. Next time I’ll type less while drinking more…
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KUSTEVE said:
@drgnslayr When he puts it all together, and he will put it all together … either this year or next… we’re going to feel ashamed how we dogged him.
I love this post. We’re going to realize how important Marcus is in this rotation however it’ll be after he graduates. We talk about moving away frown AODs and move closer to a 4 star who bleeds crimson and blue. Marcus is that guy we want.
He’ll be a bench player but have started minutes.
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rockchalkwyo said:
KUSTEVE said:
@drgnslayr When he puts it all together, and he will put it all together … either this year or next… we’re going to feel ashamed how we dogged him.
I love this post. We’re going to realize how important Marcus is in this rotation however it’ll be after he graduates. We talk about moving away frown AODs and move closer to a 4 star who bleeds crimson and blue. Marcus is that guy we want.
He’ll be a bench player but have started minutes.
Okay guys, I get it… I was a bit harsh in regard to Marcus. Even coaches can be wrong. Sincerely, Coach Marco
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@Marco haha! Coaches can be wrong. Look at how Self read Ochai at first. And myself… I said frown instead of from in my previous post. Dang it!
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rockchalkwyo said:
KUSTEVE said:
@drgnslayr When he puts it all together, and he will put it all together … either this year or next… we’re going to feel ashamed how we dogged him.
I love this post. We’re going to realize how important Marcus is in this rotation however it’ll be after he graduates. We talk about moving away frown AODs and move closer to a 4 star who bleeds crimson and blue. Marcus is that guy we want.
He’ll be a bench player but have started minutes.
Add Mitch to the bleed C&M bandwagon as well. Prison Mitch has been recruited over every year and yet he still stands. He may even take a red-shirt just to extend his time here. Who knows but in today’s climate 99/100 of those kids transfer for what they think is greener pastures and opportunity. Mitch has stuck it out. It’s a rare quality to see today.
Marcus is a hard worker. I think he’ll figure something out or recognize other ways he can help this team win games. I hope he takes all the criticism around his shooting ability as fuel and motivation.
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@Marco LMAO…you’re alright, Coach…
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@KUSTEVE Jenny says - good rockin tune! thanks
and as a drummer, its nice to see a drummer sing lead…
not sure why it’s in this thread, but I aint usually the sharpest crayon in the box.
Oh, and I LOVE Garrett - my fav current player. and based on the type of player he is, I’m sure people could guess my other fav KU past players…
someday I’ll attempt an in-depth analysis on how guys like him help win games without necessarily scoring.
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@Bosthawk releford?
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Yep… that’s definitely one… I loves me my team workhorse types… KY, JT.
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I’d like to see Marcus step up this year and LEAD our defense! He’s earned that respect from his teammates. He just needs to step from out of the shadows. A bit more self-confidence should do the trick.
I’m pretty sure our coaches could work this concept into his psyche. The more we build his confidence, the more we see him contribute in all parts of his game. Might even help his jump shot fall at a higher rate.
I remember, back in the day, being coached into a more confident shot. I was trained to tell myself “I’m gonna get this one!” every time I went up for a shot. It helped me immensely, especially because I was a poor shooter in the first place. I think it helped me stay more focused throughout the shot and I put everything into each and every shot. I bet it lifted me 10% on my shot. It’s a natural and easy technique to do. I bet Marcus could gain from doing this.
