Goodbye... "Chop!"

  • Allen Field House… Lawrence, Kansas.

    14:55 remaining in the first half.

    Remember that.

    On this moment, Charlie Moore committed an offensive foul.

    Charlie was dribbling to his left, out on the perimeter, and passed the ball off to Marcus Garrett on a move which resembles the famous Bill Self weave. Garrett’s defender chased after Garrett in his steps and made contact with Moore.

    For those of you who have it on DVR, watch that play again.

    Watch it because it marks what should be the end of Bill Self’s weave.

    Jay Wright is one heck of a coach. He coached Bey to do what he did. Jay Wright ended Bill Self’s weave.

    All that has to happen now is other coaches need to watch that one time. All they have to do is have their defender follow behind their man on the outside of the weave and make any kind of contact with the passing Jayhawk.

    That is all it takes today in college basketball to get the offensive foul call. Like I said… watch that play again.

  • Good catch. You may recall Wright having his guys jump the handoff in the 2016 Elite Eight. They were anticipating our offense in many phases. The “out-coached” thing was a discussion point in both prior games vs Wright — EE and FF.

  • Wright is probably a better coach than Self, if we are being honest. Self had better players today. Also Self is still really dang good, Wright just might be the best coach at a high level school right now.

  • @BShark ya know, I disagree. Our kids really play as a team and cover our faults. See Marcus. Self covers for our foul troubled guys pretty well too. I do hate our inbounds plays when being pressured.

  • @BShark I dont think there’s really even a debate that Self is better. Wright has the same amount of FFs and one more NC. That’s with recruiting classes rated way higher than Self. The question is now can Wright keep Nova at the elite status they currently are.

  • @drgnslayr Is that because Charlie committed a moving screen? Would that be the ruling, if an offensive player runs into a defender guarding the guy with the ball? Or the defender runs into him because he was in the way??

  • Charlie Moore is a reckless player a lot of times. Not surprising he would pick up that foul.

  • Self is underrated if anything. His consistency is pretty mind boggling. And there’s this.

  • Speaking of re-watching the game, Garrett put on an absolute CLINIC defensively, and his boxing out should be shown to any team or player on how it’s done… spectacular.

  • I really wasn’t trying to make this about Wright vs Self. I wanted to point out how D1 has put a heavy emphasis on offensive fouls based off of poor execution of screening. I feel like it is an area where the refs are actually creating a new opportunity for actors to draw fouls. I’m trying to imagine the next Marcus Smart in college basketball… probably winning a national title for his team!

    Sorry everyone. I’m just grouchy because Jay Bilas is winning… by turning college basketball into a non-contact sport.

  • @Bosthawk Agree. Garrett is so valuable when he plays like that…even if he hardly scores.

  • @drgnslayr

    I will have to disagree with you. The Bilas driven NCAA emphasis has been in helping the offense, not the defense, and penalizing teams like KU that play (or used to play) good, solid defense.

    The main issue, in my opinion, is how differently the various crews call games. In some games they will call just about everything and in others they hardly call anything.

  • @JayHawkFanToo

    In some ways I see your point. But how does calling over-sensitive offensive fouls help offense?

    I’ve heard Bilas talk for many years on removing contact in college basketball. I do believe he was right (to some degree) and the game was being hijacked by the “thug ball” strategy taught by some coaches.

    However… there is a line where it needs to stop and it should not get to the point where it becomes completely focused away from contact of any type.

    I support my thought on this with the play I focused on. It’s a play that (today) will be called against the offense every single time and it is doing nothing but slowing down the game and starting to drive coaching philosophy away from plays where contact is likely.

    It has become so bad that this may end Self’s chop play. It will end if other coaches figure out what Wright figured out.

    Self’s chop play is not only a big part of Self’s identity, it is a play that offers “color” to the game. Even though it’s roots probably go back to the Harlem Globetrotters… it’s a play that most teams only see when Kansas comes to town.

    How much of the game are we going to have to “homogenize” to meet Jay’s goal of removing all contact?

    I may be overstating things… my efforts are on slowing down the direction of sterilizing the game. I think removing some of the contact has helped the game move forward and gives technique and artfulness of play an advantage over pure thuggery.

    I don’t think I’m necessarily fair in my opinions. After all, this is Naismith’s game… developed for students. I came from the playground more resembling the “inner-city playground” where contact has always played an important role in the game.

  • @drgnslayr

    My point was about the Bilas driven agenda that has handicapped defenses and has overwhelmingly helped offenses. Yes, there will be times when some offensive fouls are called, particularly when the defending player is barely outside the arc under the basket, but there is no doubt the new rules have been created to increase scoring (and viewership) and hurt teams that played aggressive defense like KU did.

  • @JayHawkFanToo

    Point well taken!

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