Jaybate, what is your gut telling you with these pipe bombs?
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Noticed how this terrorist that did this went from facing 68 years in prison to 58 to now 48 years? What’s going on. I wouldn’t be surprised if this douche bad walks free.
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@DoubleDD language!
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Yea @mayjay That is Steve Scalise shot by a crazy Bernie Sanders Lib.
Not one Rep/conservative blamed Bernie Sanders or the Dem party. Yet here we are now and Trump and his voters are getting blamed for a crazy person that sent out a bunch of so called bombs.
Oh please tell me again how we need to check ourselves? Maybe I just need to drink the koolade your drinking?
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Crimsonorblue22 said:
@DoubleDD language!
Why? This guy was a douche bag. Lets call it for what it is.
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@DoubleDD So, either your memory is as bad as your logic, or you are purposely lying, or you just simply let yourself believe whatever crap your fearless leaders feed you. Republicans jumped all over Democrats for the Scalise shooting. Here is a summary of some:
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/after-shooting-some-gop-blame-incitement-democrats-n772586
Since you probably won’t read that because it comes from an MSM source, try Googling “Republicans blame Democrats for shooting” or put it into any search engine you want.
Amazing what people do to avoid thinking on their own.
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That van feels like it almost has to be fake. Like…what in the world…
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I apologize as I think you really wanted to have a honest debate.
This guy is crap and deserves the death penalty in my thoughts.
@mayjay you still didn’t answer the question? Why can’t you give props when they are deserved? Black unemployment is the lowest in the history of this country. Under Trumps watch. Why can’t you be happy about it? Why because it wasn’t your party and your leaders? I"m so tired of people like you throwing around Nazism and KKK when it comes to the Republican party. What about the Dem party? Wasn’t Communist backing the Dem party and their flavor? What you forget old Uncle Joe? The man that killed more people than Hitler. Does not history show that the Dem party was the party of slavery? Did we not see Hillary your parties girl have so much respect for a KKK leader? Yea you like to dish it out but you don’t like to take it. Do you need to go to that safe place?
Show me one link where Obama got blamed for Steve Scalise. And don’t come up with some way crazy web link. Try to stay main stream. Can you do that?
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@DoubleDD good gosh you are crazy!
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Crimsonorblue22 said:
@DoubleDD good gosh you are crazy!
OH and your of a sound mind? Now just do what your told.
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@DoubleDD Your little group of extremists includes Nazis NOW. If you want to go back to the Dems in the 1800’s and the 30’s enjoy the trip.
You posted originally: “Not one Rep/conservative blamed Bernie Sanders or the Dem party.” So the NBC article, which isn’t mainstream enough for you, refutes that. Just admit you forgot, or just keep embarrassing yourself. I am done with anyone who cannot see all those Trump stickers on the MAGAbomber’s van.
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mayjay said:
@DoubleDD Your little group of extremists includes Nazis NOW. If you want to go back to the Dems in the 1800’s and the 30’s enjoy the trip.
You posted originally: “Not one Rep/conservative blamed Bernie Sanders or the Dem party.” So the NBC article, which isn’t mainstream enough for you, refutes that. Just admit you forgot, or just keep embarrassing yourself. I am done with anyone who cannot see all those Trump stickers on the MAGAbomber’s van.
Oh I see your still avoiding the question? Ok I’ll start. I love that Obama Care brought about that Insurances companies can’t preclude those with preexisting conditions. A worthy and noble fight that should be considered when voting.
Now your turn? Yea that’s what I thought. If you and your Dem party cared so much about the Black Americans of this country why can’t you just be happy that we finally have a president that has lowered the unemployment rate of Black Americans to the lowest rate in the history of this country?
Still no go? Yea that’s what I thought.
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@BShark @approxinfinity Somebody please, dear God, close this thread. It is just painful.
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Trump has used stirring up hate and divisiveness as his platform, so I do think it is fair to say he played a role in some of the recent events. You can’t shake up a soda can and then say oh it’s not my fault when it sprays everywhere.
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mayjay said:
@BShark @approxinfinity Somebody please, dear God, close this thread. It is just painful.
Close the thread @mayjay needs his safe place.
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BShark said:
Trump has used stirring up hate and divisiveness as his platform, so I do think it is fair to say he played a role in some of the recent events. You can’t shake up a soda can and then say oh it’s not my fault when it sprays everywhere.
Fair enough but you don’t think the Dem party doesn’t deserve some of the blame?
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@DoubleDD I think Trump it to blame, not either particular party. Though the two party system in itself creates divisiveness and is an issue. Too many people make everything us vs them and vote straight Dem or Rep tickets w/o considering issues and voting records…
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Ok explain why?
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Lets keep in mind Trump has gotten blamed and accused of everything under the sun?
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At some point a person says come on.
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Is he guilty of some things sure, but is he to blame for everything? I don’t think so.
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I wasn’t a big fan of Obama but I didn’t blame him for everything and I voted for him in his second term.
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Believe it or not I’m not a big fan of Obama either. At the end of the day he was just full of platitudes and really didn’t do much of anything. Pushed a highly compromised health care bill through. The Democrats could have pushed things through in Obama’s first two years. So what did they actually do? They bailed out the upper ownership of the banks, expanded the insurance industry, moderately expanded Medicaid, and passed an okay stimulus bill. And the military (Lockheed Martin, Boeing) got their usual big forever raises too. Yet not a single increase to minimum wage.
So, I wouldn’t say I’m hardcore Democrat or Republican. I’m on the side of humanity, and common sense. This is a side that Trump strongly opposes.
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I"m sorry I didn’t mean it like that. Just I think it’s crazy to blame one person or party for everything.
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@DoubleDD He is the leader of this country and his campaign ran on divisiveness and white supremacy. The country is now reaping what they sowed when he won the election. Domestic terrorism has been more prevalent than ever under Trump, in part because he’s been encouraging it.
I’m not blaming him for everything, but he is the POTUS and ran on a dangerous and embarrassing platform.
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@DoubleDD you voted for Obama? Man, have you considered that you might have changed a lot since then?
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According to the ADL, anti-semitic hate crimes rose 57% in 2017. The largest single year increase on record.
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BShark said:
@DoubleDD He is the leader of this country and his campaign ran on divisiveness and white supremacy. The country is now reaping what they sowed when he won the election. Domestic terrorism has been more prevalent than ever under Trump, in part because he’s been encouraging it.
I’m not blaming him for everything, but he is the POTUS and ran on a dangerous and embarrassing platform.
Does not the Dem party preach on the Black vote, the Woman vote, The Latino vote and so on. So are you upset that Trump tapped into the Midwest vote that is mostly white?
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approxinfinity said:
You voted for Obama? Man, have you considered that you might have changed a lot since then?
No sarcasm needed. You can join @mayjay in that safe place if you want. I voted for Obama because I thought he was the better candidate in his second term.
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@BShark funny thing… You said you are for humanity and common sense. Trump said this would be the election of Kavanaugh, the caravan, some other wedge issues I can’t recall and… common sense. He’s right about that! I hope common sense is still common and we can elect people that aren’t complicit.
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@DoubleDD i was being serious. The way you defend Trump I would have assumed you thought Obama was the Devil.
I hope that you are still someone who might vote for the next candidate that isn’t endorsed by Fox if they are the better candidate.
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Am I upset that he tapped the racist, Nazi vote? Yes I would say that I am.
Obviously not all white people are racist Nazis. Trump absolutely operated on that platform though.
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approxinfinity said:
@DoubleDD i was being serious. The way you defend Trump I would have assumed you thought Obama was the Devil.
I hope that you are still someone who might vote for the next candidate that isn’t endorsed by Fox if they are the better candidate.
Oh I always vote for the best candidate, but I’m sure we can count on you Msnbc/Cnn Dem candidate regardless of what they say.
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@DoubleDD I don’t think you will. Sorry man. I just don’t think you would give a liberal candidate a chance, even if he/she were the better option.
I don’t watch MSNBC, or CNN. I watched a little CNN during the Hurricane so I could make fun of their reporting. That’s about it.
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BShark said:
Am I upset that he tapped the racist, Nazi vote? Yes I would say that I am.
Obviously not all white people are racist Nazis. Trump absolutely operated on that platform though.
Really? There is like 500 Nazi in the whole country. Wake up the KKK is dead. The Dem party created Trump. As they attacked white men. Like somehow white me are racist just because of the color of our skin. Just like the Black Americans rose up and won their freedom so will White Americans rise up against this Dem perception that if your a white an your a sexist and racist.
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approxinfinity said:
@DoubleDD I don’t think you will. Sorry man. I just don’t think you would give a liberal candidate a chance, even if he/she were the better option.
I don’t watch MSNBC, or CNN. I watched a little CNN during the Hurricane so I could make fun of their reporting. That’s about it.
You’ve never voted for a rep/conservative in your life and your telling me what and how I would vote? Really? Please lets try to be fair. You’re as closed minded as they come.
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I literally just said not all white people are racist in the same post. Are you even reading what I am writing? Trump operated on racist platforms, period.
@mayjay I feel your pain brother.
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YOu always want evidence and facts. Ever notice it has to be from the websites and news channels you tap into?
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@BShark We can all go running to our safe place together–the real world.
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Yet you think Trump playing into the White man vote is racist, but you have no problem with the Dem party playing into the Black, Gay, Woman, and latino vote. You don’t see that is racist?
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mayjay said:
@BShark We can all go running to our safe place together–the real world.
OH so @approxinfinity comes out to play now you come out of your safe place. LOL
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DoubleDD said:
Yet you think Trump playing into the White man vote is racist, but you have no problem with the Dem party playing into the Black, Gay, Woman, and latino vote. You don’t see that is racist?
Gay and trans people deserve equal rights. They don’t have them yet.
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@DoubleDD I don’t think you’re wrong about the double standard regarding racial politics, or that the Democrats had a heavy hand to play in “creating” Trump. But Trump goes way beyond just seeking equality regarding race politics. He’s a hate monger.
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No argument but that’s not the point. Why is it ok for the Dem party to tap into a certain group of sex, color, and so on. Yet when Trump taped into the White man race he played a race card?
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@DoubleDD that’s because the things that Fox News says are verifiably BS, and they’re so in bed with Trump they make Russian hookers look tame.
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approxinfinity said:
@DoubleDD I don’t think you’re wrong about the double standard regarding racial politics, or that the Democrats had a heavy hand to play in “creating” Trump. But Trump goes way beyond just seeking equality regarding race politics. He’s a hate monger.
I don’t think he is a hate monger but I do see your point in that regard. I just don’t think he plays political correctness. He just says what’s on his mind. Which agree can be taken the wrong way.
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approxinfinity said:
@DoubleDD I don’t think you’re wrong about the double standard regarding racial politics, or that the Democrats had a heavy hand to play in “creating” Trump. But Trump goes way beyond just seeking equality regarding race politics. He’s a hate monger.
This.
It would be foolish to deny the facts. Hate crimes and domestic terrorist acts are UP during Trump’s tenure.
When you spout things like building the wall, it’s bound to happen.
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approxinfinity said:
@DoubleDD that’s because the things that Fox News says are verifiably BS, and they’re so in bed with Trump they make Russian hookers look tame.
Just like the liberal media can’t give him any credit for anything.
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@DoubleDD Look, if you can prove that something I quote is factually incorrect, I hope you know I’d be the FIRST to acknowledge it.
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Hey give me a sec I need to talk to my wife and smoke a cig. If your still up we can continue. if not have a good night.
