David Beaty and Other Musings
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@kjayhawks Yeah, Nicholls more or less had control of the game and tried to piss it away.
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@HighEliteMajor has hit on this before but KU needs to take a DIFFERENT APPROACH. OU is running this offense, so naturally teams in the league are going to be more prepared for it.
Triple option wouldn’t be the worst. Or just a strong power running identity with a coach that understands oline play like Les Miles. Doesn’t have to be Les specifically, obviously.
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Fun fact of the day Beaty now has a 50% win percentage against FCS and a 3% win percentage against FBS.
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Question, is there anyway that is logical that David Beaty keeps his job? I highly doubt he’s fired this week because it really wouldn’t gain us a whole lot. Long hinted at a bowl game being needed, we maybe able to win 2 games but I don’t see anyway we could 6 wins with having lost this one. Question 2, if Beaty beats KSU would that keep his job?
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We’ve been bad for generations. We occasionally would pop out a good year - with 1 Orange Bowl win over many, many years. This is institutionalized losing…this is like a life long criminal that repeats the same crimes over and over. Losing football recidivism. We need a T Boone Pickens type to come in and shower the whole thing with some big seed money, fix up the whole program, and lure a real head coach. Beaty is a high school football coach. I picked them to win by 1 point over the Nickels, but I have so many wins in basketball, it doesn’t hurt my 82% certified accuracy rating. Like we used to say when football started when I was at KU… " anybody ready for some basketball"???
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@KUSTEVE Mangino, after his very first season had the team in bowl contention every year. There is no reason that can’t happen again.
I’d still go after Dave Doeren if he wants to come.
Also…
WE AREN’T THAT MUCH WORSE THAN MICHIGAN, IT’S OKAY GUYS AND GALS. lol
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@BShark Like Beaty said, the sun is going to rise tomorrow. What a great perspective from a coach that is 3-34…kind of like the song, “don’t worry…be happy”:
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@KUSTEVE Or “Don’t Worry, Be Crappy”.
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Just caught that Beaty blamed the players for his shitty call with Kendricks. Reminded me of Bruce Weber there. Throw those kids under the bus!
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They made the news again:
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At places like Texas where they have expectations far exceeding ours, they’ve got to be feeling even worse.
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You board rats disappoint me today. You are acting like naives; like this was NOT supposed to happen.
What kind of idiots have KU football fans become?
Let me recall a real politik explanation of college sports I heard once from a person that did not appear to have been born yesterday. It went like this…
Back in 1955-1975 the adult KU fans he knew understood the deck was stacked and KU would be lucky to have 1-3 good seasons in 25 years.
You went to KU games to picnic (now called tailgating), walk around the beautiful campus in fall colors, be regaled with stories of going to KU in the old days, and complain about how everything was rigged to favor OU, or Nebraska. Americans back then understood the world was Damon Runyonesque; that it was set up to fleece suckers; that the milk of human kindness and compassion, when not curdled, was all that made it tolerable. The guy said that America was different than Europe then, because the fleecing in Europe had all long since been clothed in the drags of theocracy and monarchy; that it was god’s will and the king’s wisdom that created the classes and the unfairness. He said America was still so new that Americans, except for the saps, KNEW it was all a con game. They knew it was all rigged. It’s why they were so good at rigging it and why so many left so many extra crumbs on the table for the saps…because so many Americans had been poor and exploited before they figured out how to rig the games themselves.
They understood the good seasons only happened, when a freak like Sayers came along, or when a group of small pond alumni decided to break all the rules and buy coaches and players the rigged system system would not allow the doormats in sufficient numbers needed to win with to sign. Doing so would produce a few good teams and then TPTB “back east”would either wreck the program by exposing its corruption, or pay the coach handsomely to go to “a better school” and take his ringers with him.
Everyone not living in fairy tales, he said, knew the better schools were rigged winners, or else had been selected to become so, to replace some other rigged winners that had been skimming too much off the top.
They did not like, but they at least understood, that was all the rigged system permitted at Kansas. Kansas had basketball and they understood there were “reasons” why KU Basketball was always at the top, too.
Has the Deep State’s curriculum engineering in public and private education designed to dumb down Americans really worked THIS well?
Does American now equal sap?
KU is apparently getting paid handsomely by the system, as it always has, to maintain a doormat football program for the media-gaming complex that has run college sports, since the 1920s, at least. Reliable losers are as crucial to the media-gaming complex as are reliable winners. They are the marketing and risk management parameters necessary for a stable gaming system. It only works predictably with a normal distribution. There has to be a big middle, too.
Where you reside in the system apparently depends on initial conditions and who along the way you ally with that climbs the ranks of the media-gaming complex and its apparent lackey—the NCAA.
Does no one really get it? Or is EVERYONE a bot, or a click-work, paid shill now?
This appears to be a gaming SYSTEM, not a competitive sport.
It appears to be rigged.
It is apparently a fake sport.
If it weren’t rigged to pay the doormats for being doormats, the bottom third of D1 would have long ago quit engaging in brain damaging 18-23 year old males.
All revenue generating college sports are apparently rigged to one degree, or other. It’s what pays to keep the lights on.
It’s not all bad either, as I recall the old guy telling me.
It is a way to see amazing athletes do amazing things. It’s like a circus. The small town rubes didn’t complain about “the acts” and hustles, when the circus came to town. Fleecing saps was part of the price of getting the circus to come to the small towns at all.
College sports are apparently NOT a way to see door mats transformed into winners based on the hard work of the door mats alone.
Door mats that become long term winners have been selected to become winners to punish another winner that skimmed to much, or because demographic changes could be better exploited by adding a new winner, or a new mid packer there, and moving others down the pecking order.
Texas got too big for its britches in football a few years back and destabilized the system pushing for realignment. It apparently got sent to the middle to show the Texans no one is bigger than the boys “back east.”
KU has gotten what it should have expected when Perk and Mange and some alums rocked the boat.
It appears the circus came to town again.
Enjoy your popcorn and quit acting surprised.
Next.
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Please don’t reply to my threads in the future.
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No one is surprised. I literally predicted it.
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@kjayhawks THAT’S a FUN FACT? - -surely you must be a sadist
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wissox said:
At places like Texas where they have expectations far exceeding ours, they’ve got to be feeling even worse.
I could give a rat’s ass about how Texas is doing. you know your program really really sucks when we find happiness in other teams doing bad
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This says it all - -don’t have to say anything - this article says what 100 % of the fan base is feeling - - - it reads as follows:
The Jayhawks have basically reached such a low point that even people who aren’t fans of the team are rooting for the team to win. - -It’s sad.
An FCS team coming into Lawrence is an embarrassment , The excuse has to be running dry - - ( buddy the excuses ran dry ALONG time ago )
So when is enough is enough ? My opinion that ship sailed long ago the writer says. The longer the school allows Beasty to screw up this program and even more so these kids , the longer it will take any Coach that’s worth his salt to fix it.
Next week as another bottom tier team makes KU look like they belong in a flag football program. These kids want to play football - - -they want to win. Having Beaty on the sidelines will never give these kids what they deserve. There is absolutely NO REASON for this DIEASE to continue any longer.
Think this pretty well sums it up guys , plain simple and to the point. - -There IS NO EXCUSES for this team or any team recently that we have had to look like what was on the field. All we hear is a bunch of crap about how our O-Line is bigger - - older and more experienced - yet at the end of the day 6 sacks - - fricken 6 sacks against an FCS team. - GOOD GOD. - like I said it ALL starts with the offensive line – we have no offensive line PERIOD. - what a joke. - Then we have a QB that couldn’t win a snail’s race got a ton of cement around his feet - that spells diaster. - No O-Line - -A QB that is a diaster looking for a place to happen - well he found his spot - DAVID BOOTH FIELD.
The writer did have ONE encouraging statement in the article. – - -Only 26 days until late night in the phog. – -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@jayballer73 sarcasm my friend
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kjayhawks said:
@jayballer73 sarcasm my friend
ya I know just a bad day lol - - -still butt hurt -soooooo sick and tired of this program being like it is obviously the people that CAN do something - -just don’t get it. - have a great day - -Basketball is on the way. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@jayballer73 definitely I was so GD mad last night I was shaking. Maybe we should start a page to bring back Mangino.
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All I want is a semi-competent coach.
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So this is our 12th straight loss, anyone know what the record is for consecutive losses in our program, I think it could be in real danger this season.
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kjayhawks said:
@jayballer73 definitely I was so GD mad last night I was shaking. Maybe we should start a page to bring back Mangino.
I wish - -thing is Mangino would NEVER come back here
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After all the hype about Sosinski, I didn’t see him in the box score. Did he play but not contribute?
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@Gorilla72 I didn’t see him on the field at any point, if he did I’d say it was on special teams.
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@jaybate-1.0 Come on sir! We can’t have expectations for the football team? Like competence? Like win 6 freaking games and play in the Cornflakes bowl? We’re an example of America’s failed education system because we want success? Getting a little carried away with your analysis methinks!
@Jayballer54 Texas has no expectations for basketball so they put their eggs in their football basket. They lose to Maryland meaning whatever hope they had for this season is basically gone. That’s far worse than what we’re going through in my opionion. We’ve got a top ranked basketball team warming up. Life is good in Lawrence but it could be be better.
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@Gorilla72 looked like he was 3rd string on the list
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@wissox The problem is that he is trying to rationalize the failure away. It couldn’t be that KU hired a terrible coach. No, it’s because KU simply isn’t permitted to win.
I don’t expect KU to be in BCS bowls regularly. Just being around .500 would be good, and has proven plenty doable in the past. Have the team be competent, sporadically rising up for surprisingly good seasons.
Glen Mason went 47–54–1, Mangino 50-48. Hell Terry Allen was somewhat competent, much moreso than Beaty, just never quite made a bowl. Mike Gottfried hovered around .500. It’s really all I asked for out of KU football. Even Jack Mitchell, who JB should remember was 44–42–5.
I mean he doesn’t even seem to know that Mangino and Perkins were at odds with each other.
He’ll just blame everything on the deep state that doesn’t exist, instead of facing reality. That Texas theory is particularly hilarious. Good programs have down times, when they have bad coaches. Even the likes of Texas and Alabama are not immune. Look up Alabama before Nick Saban.
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This coaching staff continually makes the same mistakes. It’s sad. About as sad as me bothering to reply to JB.
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wissox said:
@jaybate-1.0 Come on sir! We can’t have expectations for the football team? Like competence? Like win 6 freaking games and play in the Cornflakes bowl? We’re an example of America’s failed education system because we want success? Getting a little carried away with your analysis methinks!
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Your expectations would cost TPTB nothing, so yes you apparently get to have those.
The system apparently loves your free expectations. It gives them eyeballs, clicks, bets, souvenir/concession sales, and some butts in the seats the first 4-5 games.
You even get to complain. Anything that doesn’t hurt the system is apparently ok.
But if you really want KU to go to the corn cube puff bowl consistently, or join the elite and play for rings, then you have to go work something out with the gumbahs, kiss the hand and make an offering you can fulfill, capice?
Or you can get some bucks up alums and buck the system by spending big money to buy coaches and players.
Based on historical patterns, you will get 2, maybe 3 good seasons…
Then the system apparently retaliates and back to the bottom KU goes and careers in the KU bureaucracy get damaged.
The bureaucrats appear to get what appears to be going on. No one appears to whistle blow on the system, just on those that appear to violate it and win too big, when they are not part of the plan.
Call it all a hypothesis and ask if the more politically correct “stupidity hypothesis” offered as a supposedly more realistic hypothesis fits better. It doesnt appear to do so to me. There is so much money to be made by getting smart and winning rings that KU alums would long ago have spent the money needed to get smart if it were feasible to just wise up and win consistently without the gumbah’s blessing. Inference: a system appears to obstruct perennial doormats from getting smart and winning consistently.
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Dear Sports Posting God,
I am so blessed that I never ever have to reply to @BShark again. Thank you, god. Thank you!!!
Just kidding!
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I want to believe that JB is a parody account.
Every now and then I link his crazy ramblings elsewhere and most people assume he is some kind of weird forum joke.
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BShark said:
I want to believe that JB is a parody account.
Every now and then I link his crazy ramblings elsewhere and most people assume he is some kind of weird forum joke.
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Welcome back!
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BShark said:
Please don’t reply to my threads in the future.
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As Magritte might have posted, this is not a reply.
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BShark said:
No one is surprised. I literally predicted it.
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Please do not reply to my non-replies.
Welcome back!
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jaybate 1.0 said:
BShark said:
No one is surprised. I literally predicted it.
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Welcome back!
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jaybate 1.0 said:
BShark said:
No one is surprised. I literally predicted it.
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Welcome back!
Please stop being continually wrong.
You called me an idiot and the reason was a lie. I think you might be a bit senile.
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It’s pretty obvious that both of you are taking this latest loss really hard. I know when you get your hopes up, a defeat can really be discouraging. Sometimes that pain of losing can get misdirected, and you can end up treating a fellow fan like a dirty leg Missourah fan. So, I want to encourage you both to remember the good time. Not the good time(s)…nope. The good time :
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The goalposts come down. A conference VICTORY!
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@KUSTEVE at this point I’m thinking the goal posts may come down after the spring game.
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Agree on the stop arguing part.
To start a new argument, can it be a field storming when there’s less than 1000 people there to storm the field?
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@wissox We don’t actually storm the field…we scatter it. Drunkest ones go first. It’s a new technique pioneered by KU where we take about 75 fans, and all converge to the goalpost, so it looks like it’s more people. We have to make due since most people have left at halftime.
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kjayhawks said:
@KUSTEVE at this point I’m thinking the goal posts may come down after the spring game.
Will KU have enough players to do a spring game?
@wissox Well, JB called me an idiot based off a completely incorrect assumption that I did not see the loss coming. Then he keeps antagonizing while also spouting off more lies. I’ll try to drop it, but I’m not going to let insults go by unchecked if he continues. I had actually been not responding to him at all until this.
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@BShark I’ve experienced my share of unpleasantries too, I’d rather you ignore him and stay around.
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@BShark We could’ve won that game on Saturday. When Nickels gets the ball at our 25 yard line, that’s when we should’ve had one of our students wear the Nickels t-shirt…come running onto the field, and draw a 15 yard penalty. Next play, send another one. Next play, do the same thing. It’s like the Poke a Doke strategery, only use our fans to pretend to be Nickels fans to do it. By the time we get them back to their own 10 yard line, then there won’t be enough time left to score in OT, and we win. We’ve got to start thinking outside the box.
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@KUSTEVE Ha, maybe we’d have won if we’d played “nickels” university!
I drove through Thibidaux, LA where that fine institution is located once or twice. It is a school carved out of the swamp on a long meandering swampy deep bayou called Bayou Teche, a beautiful stream actually. Beautiful to look at it. If you swim in it you might get eaten!
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@KUSTEVE It’s a bold strategy, I like it!
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I think the more I think about Beaty, the madder I get. Keegan ran an article today that really pointed out some of the stupid stuff he did. I’m debating on wether Pete Carroll passing instead of using beast mode at the one was dumber than Beaty putting in Kendrick in OT to run it? I think I’d side with the latter being worse just because everyone knew it was coming, the pass probably wasn’t expected at least.
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The other was a bigger game!
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@kjayhawks I didn’t have an issue with bringing Kendrick in on that play, my issue was with the play call itself. Lining Kendrick up in a 5 wide formation just flat out telegraphed that a QB draw was coming. Had it been a different play call like a zone read or a run pass option, I think it would’ve worked much better, or at least had a much higher chance of working.
