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    Darryn Peterson

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    • approxinfinityA Offline
      approxinfinity
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      ESPN panel currently projecting DP as #1 pick. Good.

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        There is a very interesting article in The Athletic about Luka Doncik's hamstring injury yesterday that will cost him the last 5 games of the regular season and most likely most, if not all, of the playoffs. He came out in the second quarter, was cleared to come back, and soon after came out for good with a 2nd degree sprain.

        The article discusses 3 other NBA stars whose hamstring injuries cost them significant time on IR, ususally somewhere between several weeks to 2 months. All 3 had strains that were relatively minor so they tried to play after a couple of games, only to suffer 2nd degree tears and long times recovering.

        This is what DP was trying to avoid. You can't just will yourself through hamstring sprains (the next step after cramping and tightness). The yammering seems to have died down mostly, but I still read comments by people here who think he really was just avoiding playing because of being soft.

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          approxinfinity @mayjay
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          @mayjay DP isn't soft, agreed. I think any exec that dug a little would see that the story now presented about him being gunshy after full body cramps (in addition to the hamstring issues) will see that it fits with what they already have known about the kid for a long time. He's a winner and competitor and didn't wish for any of that. Ultimately I'm not sure DP was a good fit for a Kansas roster with 3.5 other guys that Bill trusted, and not sure that Kansas was the most confortable fit for him. Had he been at a school like Duke, flush with other high profile talent that the announcers could fixate on, he may have healed in peace without the BS scrutiny. In the end, if we goes number 1, maybe the case could be made that by taking the harder route, DP had to show how tough he was. I think he passed the test.

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            Not a lot of angst here for DP declaring today.

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              mayjay @wissox83
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              @wissox83 If there had been a sliver of a chance he'd stay, there would no doubt be disappointment expressed. But that wasn't the case, and everyone knew it when he committed. Dyabantsa (sp?) was massive for BYU but no angst expressed there, either, because no one had any emotional investment in him returning.

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                wissox83 @mayjay
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                @mayjay I expected at least someone to mention it here but no one had. That was more of my point.

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                  Not really a surprise I guess. Thanks for the memories (And maybe a few nightmares)?

                  I hope he fires his entire entourage, and hires a proper firm to up his PR perception.

                  Best of luck.

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                    approxinfinity
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                    We'll miss DP later.

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                      Great talent I’ll miss him.

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                        Great article
                        https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/48710416/darryn-peterson-says-high-doses-creatine-led-cramping

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                          JoJoAndMe @crimsonblu22
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                          @crimsonblu22 All Jayhawk fans should read this. But . . . IMO his family made a BIG mistake in not sharing information about this scary, scary incident. All of us, including NBA scouts and GMs, would have felt entirely differently about DP and Kansas. (One more in an unfortunate collection of unlucky breaks for KU Athletics.)

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                            mayjay @JoJoAndMe
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                            @JoJoAndMe said in Darryn Peterson:

                            All of us...

                            ...No, some of us did NOT jump on the "he's a pussy" bandwagon, and believed it was a medical issue out of his control.

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                              I wonder if the coaching staff, family, etc. were aware of the high doses of creatine taken by Darryn? Surely things like this are monitored by KU's program. Creatine has been used by athletes for 30 years, so there must be a body of medical knowledge about healthy and unhealthy use of it. But, no one knew what I was doing when I was a freshman at KU. So, there's that. I too wish we had known about the serious medical condition earlier in the year; it really helps me understand what happened better. Coach should take Darryn's situation into account when structuring next year's boot camp.

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                                The article sounds like his natural level was very high, possibly unexpectedly so. The training staff likely made assumptions that would usually be appropriate. Five days ago my wife was prescribed a medicine and her NP went over the common side effects. Turns out she didn’t mention an unusual one--tachycardia, happens in less than 1% of reported effects. Her heart rate, usually about 57, has been over 100 for lengthy periods over these 3 days. It is starting to go away but we had a scary time until discovering the culprit. (Thank you, Dr. Google, and all the subreddit members!)

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                                  @mayjay that’s scary and exactly why I go to the doctor about once every 8 years. They aren’t trained to fix a dang thing, just to prescribe all sorts of stuff so they can get their kick backs from big pharma. There is a reason elites go to other countries for medical care.

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                                    patoh3 @kjayhawks2.0
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                                    @kjayhawks2.0 You have so many misconceptions about healthcare providers. If you have that strong of an opinion, though, I doubt that discussing the inaccuracies will make any difference. If you are interested, though, I am open to a discussion. I would create another thread, though.

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                                      mayjay @kjayhawks2.0
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                                      @kjayhawks2.0 @patoh3 Our doctors are great, and the cardiologist ratified our suspicions. Even the NP made an understandable mistake. What this and other experiences tell me, however, is that the internet can be very useful and people should make sure they know what is going on. But like product reviews, you have to be able to separate the crap from legitimate information. I learned about researching medical materials when I volunteered at the medical library at the VA hospital where my wife worked. Not everyone has that experience. More importantly, because my wife's family has lots of instances of drug sensitivity, we always peruse the drug info sheets to look for side effects (Walmart actually stopped giving out the info. Only a QR code to link to it). This time we were caught up in lots of stuff and blew it.

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                                        My concern is whether someone on the KU staff knew or should have known about Darryn's creatine use. I wonder what amount Darryn is referring to when he says he took high doses of creatine during boot camp. The internet advises that some athletes go into a loading phase where they take 20-25 grams per day, usually broken up into 4-5 smaller doses to replenish fatigued muscles and that cramping is a known complication. Creatine is available over-the-counter at all parmacies, so anyone can take it in any amounts. But, I don't see anything like the whole body paralysis that Darryn described to Sports Illustrated and ESPN as a possible condition. According to an ESPN reporter, Darryn claims he suffered whole body cramping during boot camp that was so severe he was taken to Lawrence Memorial Hospital by ambulance. I understand and appreciate patient privacy, but how in the hell didn't a KU player leaving boot camp by ambulance for the hospital leak out to fans? Coach Self, what the hell is going on at your boot camps that a player suffers a condition that requires emergency treatment and is taken straight to the hospital? Oh yeah, and why is this just now coming up? Surely the KU basketball program has internal safeguards and reviews focused on player safety. Lastly, could Darryn's claim of full body paralysis/emergency hospital treatment just be made now to help his NBA draft position? Good grief, I thought I was done with Mr. Peterson until the SI article came out this week. Now I have concerns about the safety of players in KU's program.

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