Scrimmage Results
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HawkChamp said:
Not really surprising actually. Isn’t WVU down a couple players? I know Ahmad is out right now but isn’t there someone else?
Not sure. I know Ahmad is academically ineligible.
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@BShark somebody had knee surgery, might have been scoped
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Crimsonorblue22 said:
@BShark somebody had knee surgery, might have been scoped
Non-rotation guard it looks like. #211 ranked in the last class.
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West Virginia without Ahmad is an average team. You have 2 senior guards and what? A bunch of young bigs that have some promise (West & Konate). They have a very young team and its going to be a tough season I think for them
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Iowa State beat Emporia State in an exhibition last night, 77-68.
I might need to backpedal on ISU. They had a couple kids not play but still.
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Meanwhile UNC lost an exhibition by 8!~
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BeddieKU23 said:
Meanwhile UNC lost an exhibition by 8!~
I was just about to post this. LOL!
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BeddieKU23 said:
Meanwhile UNC lost an exhibition by 8!~
You mean defending national champion UNC? I’d trade places with them in a minute.
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KUSTEVE said:
@HawkChamp I think KU, OU, Texas, TCU, T Tech, and WVU all get bids to the tourney. No doubt the conference is on a downward spiral, even with 6 bids to the tourney. The overall talent in the conference is the lowest its been in a long time. The Pac 12 dirty money is flowing like a river, two ACC teams are accused of making bids for recruits, and the grand FBI investigation that was going to straighten all this out is looking more and more like a planned hit on Adidas to benefit Nike. I’m certainly not saying that Pitino didn’t deserve to walk the plank, but I wonder if we really knew the truth if it wouldn’t reveal a whole bunch of big name Nike school coaches have done the same things as Pitino, if not worse. —�—�—�—�—�- PHOF!
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wissox said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Meanwhile UNC lost an exhibition by 8!~
You mean defending national champion UNC? I’d trade places with them in a minute.
This year I wouldn’t.
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Does anyone else find it strange that KenPom has any opinion at all without any regular season data from the current season to model. He has to be modeling last season’s data, or aggregated prior seasons. Kenny Baby, stick to same season data. You’re good at it.
Oh, what was I thinking? It’s the Karl Rove age of making reality by simply saying something is so. Go ahead, Ken, everyone else is.
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BeddieKU23 said:
Meanwhile UNC lost an exhibition by 8!~
Who did they play?
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HawkChamp said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Meanwhile UNC lost an exhibition by 8!~
Who did they play?
National powerhouse UNC Greensboro.
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@BShark wow! We’re they without berry?
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HawkChamp said:
@BShark wow! We’re they without berry?
I would think so. He is out for awhile right?
They had to replace a lot of guys after last year.
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@BShark oh that’s right - he broke his hand. Forgot about that
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Wasn’t UNC playing a Jamboree against 3 teams with each game being 13 or 14 minutes long? Which team did it lose to?
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BShark said:
BeddieKU23 said:
Meanwhile UNC lost an exhibition by 8!~
I was just about to post this. LOL!
True they lost BUT like was pointed out UNCG - -is not the same Caliber of Washburn - -Pitt State - -Emporia St, and of top of that not having Berry right now. - -not making much out of that. - --ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Obviously, but just like Illinois losing to an OVC team it’s still hilarious.
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Those jamborees are weird. It’s not really a full game - they reset the score at each break, but the rotations may be weird (starters may play most of the first 13 or 14 minutes, then backups play against the next group). As a result, UNC’s backups may have faced UNC-G’s starters for the majority of that matchup. If you isolate a 13 or 14 minute stretch against a lot of teams, KU probably “lost” some games against teams they ultimately beat by 8-10 points.
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Either we are hearing about exhibition games more then any year I can remember or there really is a lot of P5 teams who are not very good right now. I would go with the latter as I do believe CBB is down and its going to take a while before we see a good 10-15 teams look like contenders for March.
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BeddieKU23 said:
Either we are hearing about exhibition games more then any year I can remember or there really is a lot of P5 teams who are not very good right now. I would go with the latter as I do believe CBB is down and its going to take a while before we see a good 10-15 teams look like contenders for March.
The product is not great right now, I’d say.
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Yeah I’m certainly not criticizing the CBB landscape its just looking more apparent that most of the country is in rebuild mode. There are a few exceptions of course and I fully expect once CBB gets in the spot light after the Super Bowl that we’ll have a much clearer view of who’s good.
Right now I’d put teams in Tier’s
Tier 1-
KU, Nova, Wichita St (at full strength), Michigan St, Zona (at Full Strength), USC
Tier 2-
Duke, Kentucky, Florida, UCLA, Xavier, Louisville, UNC, Cincinatti
Tier 3-
TCU, WVU, Miami, Notre Dame, Northwestern, Oregon, Seton Hall.
After that complete crapshoot and really the T3 teams could be any range of 10-20 others
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Actually, to be defending champs, I would trade places. I don’t want all of their mess, but sure. There’s no pressure on them for a few years since they’ve now won TWO titles since we won our last.
