Which Jayhawk Will Improve the Least?

  • @jaybate-1.0 thank you!

  • @justanotherfan

    I see your point but I am not sure I agree. Brannen was starting to play better and his defense, although still lacking, was considerably better than the previous year and his defensive rebounding was much improved. In hindsight, I can see how his injury completely negated side to side movement and seriously handicapped his defense. Brannen is a smart kid and I am hoping he he will be a nice surprise once he is healed. Many players actually come out stronger from an injury since going through the rehabilitation regime gives them a more balanced and better training approach that takes better advantage of their strengths and compensates for their weaknesses…I am hoping it works this way for him.

  • Tyler Self.

  • @jaybate-1.0 All good points but hey, you asked who we think will improve the least and that is my answer. Hope I am wrong. I hope Tyler Self improves the least.

  • @JayHawkFanToo I’ve said this before, but I’ve never seen a d 1 athlete move like BG! But now I can understand why he moved like that. Question is was he always so bad that nobody, including team drs and trainers, suspected an injury? I think he HAS to be better, just not sure it will be next fall w/out summer wkouts. Really think he would benefit himself and team w/redshirt.

  • @JayHawkFanToo and @jaybate-1.0

    I absolutely agree that guys coming back from injury usually recover just fine. My hesitation with BG is that with him missing the entire offseason, he doesn’t have a chance to add anything to his game this summer. He can’t work on his one dribble pull up jumper (a deadly addition to his game, btw). He can’t work on his quickness on defense. He can’t tighten up his ball handling.

    BG needs the offseason to strengthen the areas of his game that were shaky last year (defense, ball handling). It isn’t just about overcoming the injury - it’s about rounding out his game to make him a more all around player. With the injury, I just don’t see how that happens.

    If he comes back too quickly, he risks re-injury or permanent limitation. But not coming back eliminates almost the whole offseason. By the time his hip is likely strong enough for work, it’s time for conditioning. He will likely be behind on conditioning, depending on how limited he is during the last 6 weeks of his rehab.

    So BG will, by virtue of the injury (not anything to do with his work ethic) probably be out of shape when fall conditioning starts, having not played actual basketball in more than five months. Just not a good recipe for improvement.

    I’m definitely rooting for BG. I like his game and think he has a lot of potential. Just the timing of this injury is a killer.

  • @wissoxfan83 safe bet.

  • @wissoxfan83 do you honestly think Tyler goes to weights? Man, he’s so scrawny.

  • @justanotherfan

    Recovery form injury has changed dramatically in recent years. 25 years ago I had arthroscopic surgery on my left shoulder to remove scar tissue that had formed between the ball and socket (carrying a laptop…make that a 30 pound transportable computer did it); I had to stay in the hospital for 2 days and my arm was fully immobilized for 1 month and after that, when the holding gear was removed, my arm hung limp on the side and it would not move and I had to do go through extensive rehab to get it fully operational again. Two year ago I had a more extensive arthroscopic surgery on the other shoulder to remove scar tissue as well as bone spur; the surgery was done as outpatient and I was sent home the same day with a plain cloth sling and instructions to only use it if the shoulder became painful. Within a week my arm was almost back to normal and all the rehab required was to exercise at home it with rubber bands.

    I will guess that Brannen will soon be starting with light exercise and graduate quickly to a heavier routine. Like I said, recovery form surgery is now a lot shorter than it used to be and exercise/rehab starts fairly quickly. I am really not worried about him not being in shape come next season.

  • @JayHawkFanToo Yeah the medical advances are amazing-my father was part bionic by the time he passed.

    One thing that will probably slow BG’s recovery is that joint is weight bearing.

    I have two bad knees and a hip that’s worse. I keep putting the repairs/replacements off.

  • @wissoxfan83 All Tyler has to do is score 4pts and have 2 assists to double last years output. I believe that would be the most improved player! HCBS did say he was going to lighten the schedule so I would guess you are dead wrong lol…

  • @JayhawkRock78 better to fix them now than later. I’ve seen that w/my folks.

  • @Crimsonorblue22 Right now I have two kids in high school and the activity level is off the charts. He will be off to college in the fall and I was thinking maybe things would be easier to handle then or next year when the other one is gone to college. I will admit I am a bit nervous. My sister had both knees replaced last year and it was a LONG recovery.

  • @JayhawkRock78 did she have them at same time? A friend did it that way, he was around 50, recovered nicely. Hips are easier. My mom can hardly walk now because of her knees, to late to have them done now. She gets steroids shots, not much relief.

  • I’ll say Perry Ellis. I think we’ll see the same player next season, much as we saw pretty much the same player this season from the prior year.

    In 2013-14, Ellis was 13.6 points per game, 6.7 rebounds, 1.0 assists, and .6 blocks.

    In 2014-15, Ellis was 13.8 points per game, 6.9 rebounds, 1.2 assists, and .7 blocks.

    Marginal improvement at best. We discussed many times that he’d be better with a real center. Well, he had a real center much of 2013-14. Numbers were a touch worse then. We pretty much know what we’ll get from Perry, which is pretty darn good.

    My prediction is premised on the assumption that we run the same Bill Self system offensively. If that changes, I could see Perry bump to 17-18 ppg pretty easily.

  • @JayhawkRock78

    Don’t wait, unlike wine, it does not get better/easier with age.

  • @Crimsonorblue22 Yes she had them both done at once. I was thinking I could only handle one at a time. I knew a guy with one bad knee and the other was okay. He told me the stress on the other knee during recovery was so bad he had to get the other done-kind of made be wonder if the first one wasn’t done very well.

  • @jaybate-1.0 I think Coach Self will improve the least. Maybe. Or maybe it’ll be baby Jay.

  • @JayhawkRock78 usually before you get one side fixed the other gets worse 'cause you favor it.

  • @Lulufulu

    Baby Jay…PHOF

  • Banned

    I’m going to put on my KU glasses and say all the players will get better. However in light of your question I’m going to say a OAD. There will be a recruit a OAD that won’t live up to the hype.

  • Olivia Wilde will not come to a KU game this next season, and so she will not get better.

    And now, a moment of silent mourning. 🙂

  • @DoubleDD Cliff left!

  • @jaybate-1.0 she had a baby, maybe that was the reason?

  • @Crimsonorblue22

    Oh, no! The chalice in the palace with the brew that is true is no more? Or is it the vessel with the pestle? 🙂

    Olivia, you are still our favorite movie star and now you have a baby jay!!!

  • @jaybate-1.0 been awhile too.

  • I’m seeing the glass half full this morning… so I’d rather comment on the player I see improving most.


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