2022-23 stats-PER, Kenpom etc
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How is the player efficiency rating determined? Udeh having a PER of 22 on a night his +/- was negative is not exactly what I’d expect.
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@dylans The PER is a season-long stat. So it combines all of his minutes played all year.
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I can’t seem to figure out how WVU is so highly rated in the Net and in Kenpom. Playing a tough schedule is definitely a key. But winning some of those games would seem to be a premium.
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@cragarhawk It’s like the year KU had Wiggins and Embiid. KU was ranked high even though they lost nearly all the games to the top ranked teams that year. -Almost all the losses were to good teams, but you’d think you’d have to beat one to earn a high ranking yourself.
Being a Kansas homer I still think with a healthy Embiid KU makes noise that March.
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Update. We are CHAMPS!!!
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Jalen ties Mario Chalmers for 31st all-time on the scoring list.
Jalen needs 31 points to pass Marcus Morris for 30th, 34 to pass Adonis Jordan & 37 points to pass Richard Scott for 28th.
Kevin has exactly 1,000 points getting the most important one late in the game. Kev, what a play.
Kenpom-
Still doesn’t like us.
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@BeddieKU23 Saw a thing that we are still within the Kenpom Rankings that match all of the most recent champions. Something about top 27 D and top 37 O I think.
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@dylans said in 2022-23 stats-PER, Kenpom etc:
@cragarhawk It’s like the year KU had Wiggins and Embiid. KU was ranked high even though they lost nearly all the games to the top ranked teams that year. -Almost all the losses were to good teams, but you’d think you’d have to beat one to earn a high ranking yourself.
Being a Kansas homer I still think with a healthy Embiid KU makes noise that March.
No point guard.
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@dylans with Joel we’re National Champs. But could have went further if anyone outside of Frankamp and Black seemed to care about being there imo
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@cragarhawk I don’t think that Wiggins didn’t care. He just isn’t an alpha, which is too bad. He could be dominating.
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If you like stats, here’s some more.
If Bill Self wins the final 10 games of the season, he would pass Phog Allen as the winningest coach in KU history.
Bill Self has been a 4 seed or better in the NCAA Tournament every year. The streak will continue.
If Bill Self were a university, he would rank 9th all time in conference championships. CJ Moore gets credit for this.
Bill has won 17 titles in 20 years at KU.
Coach K won 13 conference championships in 42 years, Roy won 13 ACC+Big-12 titles in 33 years, Izzo has won 10 Big-10 titles in 28 years.
Harris is now tied for 22nd all time in steals
KU is 23-0 this season when leading with under 5:00 minutes left, 533-18 in the Self Era.
Pretty crazy, KU’s last 8 wins against Texas Tech have all been under single digits.
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@BeddieKU23 said in 2022-23 stats-PER, Kenpom etc:
Pretty crazy, KU’s last 8 wins against Texas Tech have all been under single digits.
Like fractions?
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@BeddieKU23 Bill Self had now been the coach of KU for 16% of their years as well. Basketball is a young sport. Kinda cool to be able to remember such a large chunk of the entire history of basketball.
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@dylans Im sure youre right about that. It’s just how it looked that day. Although to be fair, I was a long damn ways away in a nosebleed seat so that could be some of the issue with my vision on that.
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Update post West Virginia win
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Jalen now sits in 28th place all-time. He is 48 points away from passing Wilt Chamberlain for 27th. With a deep run in the tourney he can creep up further at his current scoring avg.
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As we can see, the offense and defense are trending in opposite directions.
Harris is now 21st all time in steals passing Nick Collison.
Gradey is now 2nd all time for made 3’s from a freshman. Needs 3 more to pass Jeff Boschee.
KU has now won 13 of its last 15 B12 tourney games
Jalen is now 14th all time in rebounds at KU.
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@BeddieKU23 KU has now won 13 of its last 15 B12 tourney games
While Faylor has lost 7 of their last 8. Yikes
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@dylans They did win a National Title in that span…
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@benshawks08 Seems fluky…with that NC and those 6 wins they average less than 2 NCAA tournament w’s per year over the last 7 appearances.
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Update:
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Jalen passed Wilt Chamberlain for 27th all time on the scoring list. He needs 43 points to pass Brandon Rush for 26th.
Kenpom-
In the Self era this ranks as the #15th best team via Kenpom.
There are 6 teams this current team compares with. When Self’s offenses are in the 20’s, his defense has always been good. 5 of 6 were Top 11 Kenpom on defense.
Here are the finishes for those 6 teams- 2 (lost in 2nd round), 2 (lost in Sweet 16), 1 (Elite 8), 1 (Championship game, 2011-12).
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@BeddieKU23 GENEROUS to include those two better teams. I think this team really closely matches the 2nd round loss/S16 teams though.
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Yeah it would appear statistically this team has a short ceiling.
My hope is the stats won’t matter when Jalen laces them up and this team’s heart and competitiveness shines. I know we’ll defend, I think it’s our offense that has stunk & will need to prove itself.
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Matches the eye test. They are good, but definitely not a dominant team. Could lose in the round of 32, could win the whole thing.
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Update: Howard Dub out the way.
Some important Milestones for Gradey Dick and Jalen Wilson.
Gradey became #1 in 3 pointers made for a KU freshman passing Jeff Boschee who had 79, Gradey has 82 now. Gradey also hit 500 points as a freshman which now has him in 4th place all-time for a KU freshman.
Jalen Wilson surpassed 700 points for the season becoming only the 11th Jawhawk to do so. Jalen has now scored 20+ in 6 straight games as he continues to climb the all-time scoring chart. He needs 23 points on Saturday to move into 26th place.
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Update: End of a great season is here, way too soon for my liking!
Jalen finishes in 27th place on the All-Time Scoring list with 1475 points, 3 short of passing Brandon Rush. Congrats Jalen, you are a KU legend! Remarkable transformation this man made. He truly understood what it meant to be a Jayhawk!
Dajuan Harris will be on 1,000 point scoring club watch next season. He’s at 606 points total, scoring a career best 320 points this season.
KJ Adams scored 10x as many points this season as in his freshman season (38 to 380). He’s poised for an even bigger role next year.
Kenpom rates this as the 16th best team in the Self era overall. 9th overall in the Country, 24th best Offense, 11th best Defense.
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@BeddieKU23 Assuming KJs growth is linear and not exponential, he should only score 100 points per game next season.
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@dylans said in 2022-23 stats-PER, Kenpom etc:
@BeddieKU23 Assuming KJs growth is linear and not exponential, he should only score 100 points per game next season.
Maybe if we start him at the 4…
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@dylans said in 2022-23 stats-PER, Kenpom etc:
@BeddieKU23 Assuming KJs growth is linear and not exponential, he should only score 100 points per game next season.
That’s my expectation as well
