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    • Jayhawk_69J Offline
      Jayhawk_69 @kjayhawks2.0
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      @kjayhawks2.0 There are a lot of examples of that being the case. I do think there are some good things governments have done (infrastructure, safety regulations, standards for work safety, law enforcement) which is why I don't think it is always true. But when governments overstep their bounds it is almost invariably a disaster.

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      • bskeetB Offline
        bskeet
        last edited by bskeet

        Personally, I want the players to be fairly compensated for their contributions. "Fair" is hard to determine in a world where there is such insane discrepancy in compensation from our current system. I'm not for socialism at all. But I feel like our current system of unfettered capitalism invites a lot of greed and that invites a lot of fraud and so it's not going great.

        I'm not trying to be political -- so let me bring it back to the point. The college system seems to face a similar bipolar crossroads.

        What it needs is a goldilocks solution -- not what it was (players were used, other people got rich), but not succumbing to a "whatever the market will bear" (unfettered capitalism) concept. I feel like that approach would be akin to throwing up our hands and letting the product compete with the professional product (i.e. NBA) where it will certainly fail and lose its soul in the process.

        There's some place in or near the middle where this needs to land and be STABLE for a while. That means key parameters (such as compensation) need to have boundaries and restrictions established which can be both enforced and adjusted over time.

        Right now the approach is patch-this... patch-that, like band-aids on band-aids β€” and it's wearing out. I do think a wholistic look at the system would be good. I disagree that one guy (who probably ought to be spending all of his time thinking about more important things than CBB NIL) is the best way to get to that system. The best solutions usually are hashed out by a collective of experts. Should be the same here.

        Just my 2cents.

        Rock Chalk!

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        • rockchalkjayhawkR Offline
          rockchalkjayhawk @bskeet
          last edited by

          @bskeet said in Saving College Sports!:

          Personally, I want the players to be fairly compensated for their contributions. "Fair" is hard to determine in a world where there is such insane discrepancy in compensation from our current system. I'm not for socialism at all. But I feel like our current system of unfettered capitalism invites a lot of greed and that invites a lot of fraud and so it's not going great.

          I'm not trying to be political -- so let me bring it back to the point. The college system seems to face a similar bipolar crossroads.

          What it needs is a goldilocks solution -- not what it was (players were used, other people got rich), but not succumbing to a "whatever the market will bear" (unfettered capitalism) concept. I feel like that approach would be akin to throwing up our hands and letting the product compete with the professional product (i.e. NBA) where it will certainly fail and lose its soul in the process.

          There's some place in or near the middle where this needs to land and be STABLE for a while. That means key parameters (such as compensation) need to have boundaries and restrictions established which can be both enforced and adjusted over time.

          Right now the approach is patch-this... patch-that, like band-aids on band-aids β€” and it's wearing out. I do think a wholistic look at the system would be good. I disagree that one guy (who probably ought to be spending all of his time thinking about more important things than CBB NIL) is the best way to get to that system. The best solutions usually are hashed out by a collective of experts. Should be the same here.

          Just my 2cents.

          Maybe Condoleeza Rice and the IARP are available? Oh wait, they folded! doh!

          But i'm with ya. All good points. Hard to find a solution without pissing somebody off. we are a capitalist country, but of course have regulation everywhere you look. no need to reinvent the wheel here (i hope).

          My main worry is that all these player salaries are gonna bankrupt the system and keep just a few teams at the top. well, and the year to year transfers, too. that i really dislike.

          So we're back to collective bargaining i guess. Players need to unionize to see if they can get a big share of that TV revenue stream.

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          • mayjayM Offline
            mayjay
            last edited by mayjay

            Here is the problem with this conclave being convened to "fix" college athletics: they aren't inviting the people who make it happen.

            From The Athletic Friday about that alleged roundtable:

            "Trump will chair the panel, working with expected vice chairs Secretary of State Marco Rubio, Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis and Yankees president Randy Levine. Invitees include college sports leaders such as NCAA president Charlie Baker, commissioners from the Power 4 conferences and Group of 6 ranks, select athletic directors, university administrators β€” including Trump adviser and Texas Tech board chair Cody Campbell β€” and former coaches Nick Saban and Urban Meyer; sports executives such as NBA commissioner Adam Silver, CEO of the USA Olympic Committee Sarah Hirshland, and New England Patriots president Jonathan Kraft; former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice; media executives such as ESPN chairman Jimmy Pitaro and Fox Sports CEO Eric Shanks; and business leaders such as Gerry Cardinale, David Blitzer and Marc Ganis, among others.

            "There were no known current college athletes expected to attend."

            Seems fair to me.

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            • M Offline
              MR11
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              Anything done with an EO is worthless here. The court rulings are driving the NCAA currently, so any changes to those rulings would need to come from laws passed by congress, not EOs.

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