@mayjay Simien has a son that is about 8 and Moody married in 2007 and has 3 sons with oldest being likely around 9 or 10? This is as much info as I could find on some of the payers from the earlier teams.

@Gunman I wish he would do that, send these guys a message. I always told my team that effort was a must, all the time and if they didn’t bring that everyday they’d never play a minute for me. “I’d rather lose by 30 playing our tails off, than lose by 5 because we didn’t want it enough” - kjayhawks.

@Texas-Hawk-10 Now you have done it. Penn State agreed to join the B10 in 1990, starting to play games in 1993? So, I am thinking that I didn’t realize it was so recent! Wow, I thought! But finally, I then realized 24 years is not, sigh, that recent after all. So thanks for making me feel old.