Season in review: the players
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Let's take a look at how we feel the players performed this year. I'll start us off with a few. Feel free to offer your own ratings here if you'd like. My grades could for sure be skewed as my mood is crap right now!
My two cents:
Darryn Peterson
Averages: 20 pts / 4 rebounds / 1.7 assists ( a shockingly low 38 assists on the year. wow) / 60 3pts made
Performance: This is a tough one. Generally his numbers are more than good for a freshman. I argue he did very little to next to nothing to make the players around him better. Ya have to add his health issues to the overall as a big negative, both for him and the team.
Score: 7 out of 10
Melvin Council
Averages: 12 pts / 5 rebounds / 5 assists / 36 3pts made
Performance: Seemingly a team leader. Fan favorite with his "dawg" PR movement. Bonus points for that. Generally a weak scorer. Needed to be more dominant offensively more than he was. Had a pretty bad end of season run. Defense seemed strong, at least the effort seemed there mostly. I'd prefer Self get guards who can take over games in all aspects (sherron, graham, etc).
Score: 7 out of 10 / End of season run lowers grade.
Tre White
Averages: 13.8 pts / 6.7 rebounds / 1.7 assists / 56 3pts made
Performance: He probably deserves a better grade than i wanna give him. Except for a few games during the regular season, he was a consistent scorer, hit the boards, defended. But he was crap in post season games. Big demerit for a very experienced player. My two cents: He's soft as hell when near the rim. Weak. Go straight at it, get a foul instead of these 360 up and unders he constantly tried.
Score: 6.5 out of 10 / I understand his stats alone say he should grade better.
I may add a few at some point.
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Tre was definitely one of our better boarders! Not soft there.
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Agreed. I just thought he was wimpy going to the rim. too many wild, gangly layup attempts.
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@rockchalkjayhawk had a sweet one today.
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My issues arent with the players. The things I want to grade here are their usage, their growth, their pay. It feels very difficult to judge them as individual contributors in a meaningful way when their capacities are very much bounded by forces external to them.
That being said I would probably give each of them an extra point over your ratings if judging how they handled their season.
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@approxinfinity said in Season in review: the players:
My issues arent with the players. The things I want to grade here are their usage, their growth, their pay. It feels very difficult to judge them as individual contributors in a meaningful way when their capacities are very much bounded by forces external to them.
That being said I would probably give each of them an extra point over your ratings if judging how they handled their season.
Fair enough. Basically I’m simply offering a way to bitch about players to soothe our post season blues. Since these players are pros now, seems fair.
I think the “growth” category is the big issue you’re personally having with Self. Most saw no growth, and actually performed worse as the season progressed. Flory is better than last year, but we can see his flaws and kryptonite.
Usage: another Self issue.
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@rockchalkjayhawk said in Season in review: the players:
Fair enough. Basically I’m simply offering a way to bitch about players to soothe our post season blues. Since these players are pros now, seems fair.
Does being paid somehow negate being young and dumb? Does it negate playing only one season under Coach Self, who always takes 2 years minimum to get the best out of guys?
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@BigBad said in Season in review: the players:
@rockchalkjayhawk said in Season in review: the players:
Fair enough. Basically I’m simply offering a way to bitch about players to soothe our post season blues. Since these players are pros now, seems fair.
Does being paid somehow negate being young and dumb? Does it negate playing only one season under Coach Self, who always takes 2 years minimum to get the best out of guys?
I don’t understand what you’re asking.
This post is a simple way to discuss player performance. No nuance involved.
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@rockchalkjayhawk sorry, not in any way trying to invalidate your post. Just where my thoughts are. yours are perfectly valid and I appreciate the angle. Mostly I'm just bummed out right now.
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Yesterday showed the lack of team chemistry development. (Admittedly, DP's health inconsistency had a lot to do with it.) Even after a full season, however, when we needed to score, Melvin and Tre DEFERRED to DP, and DP did nothing to make them more effective participants in the offense. Could be lack of coaching OR, maybe, we were just really unlucky that we had a highly touted freshman that suffered full body cramps.
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This team was a top 8 team on paper and in my heart at the start of the season (and at various times in the season).
But from January to present, looking objectively, they ware mostly between top 16-25. Going into the tourney, my head said that the round of 32 was the threshold for the team. If we get to S16, there should be no disappointment... But losing at the round of 32 was completely possible. And the way we lost — on a shot at the buzzer — kind of shows how close we were. Like, #17. That sucks, but that's where we landed.
It's kind of fitting when you look back on the record -- losing to West Virginia, losing at home to Cincinnati when it really mattered... Yet beating Iowa State, Houston and Arizona.. Not to mention Tennessee who is in the S16. So, we could win or we could lose...
If the game goes to OT, I like our chances, but it didn't.
Again, number 17, in a game where number 16 is still playing, and the season is over for #17.
