BRAEDEN ANDERSON... From No Way to All the Way
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The NCAA can audit, review, & analyze all the krap in every pasture they can sniff out. but they can’t gauge the size of the heart in the young man that Coach Self believed in. The 2 AA was, like the wifey says to me quite often, “Just Wrong !” Unbelievably he is NOT PO’ed at his AAU coach who made him a partial qualifier at Kansas. Sounds like a really great kid & the type of young man we covet in our hoops program at Kansas. Here, read for yourself… http://collegebasketball.nbcsports.com/2015/11/13/braeden-andersons-journey-from-academic-ineligibility-to-law-school/
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@globaljaybird
Just one more case showing how ridiculous the NCAA is on determining eligibility.
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@drgnslayr Straight from the horse’s mouth - or other end if you prefer…
"Tacko Fall was the latest social media cause célèbre in the fight against the NCAA, a battle that was won by the masses on Friday. Braeden Anderson knows all too well about the fight that Fall had on his hands.
Fall is a freshman at Central Florida, a 7-foot-6 center from Senegal that is getting As and Bs in Calculus, Chemistry and Engineering classes as we speak, yet the NCAA, last week, told Fall that he was no longer allowed to practice. According to the NCAA, Fall was not prepared to handle the academic rigors of a college curriculum."
Laughable, I know."
The 2 AA makes one ponder how totally inept they truly are…
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@globaljaybird Thanks for the article. I finally got fed up and called NCAA for the first time & asked for the President who was not in but spoke with his Asst who was very nice & said someone from the Eligibility Center would called back & someone did. Personally I believe in a governing body such as NCAA, but more & more NCAA’s legitimacy and responsibility is at question when a governing body cannot or would not render a decision and by default an athlete sits. This is unjust & NOT the American way, I said. One way or another NCAA has to make a decision & state their reason. Their recent approval of Fall made them look inconsistent & the movie Blind Side made them look horrible. Their PR is tanking, I said & fans like me are beginning to question their role & responsibility. Suggested they need to improve their process to be more proficient & timely. Of course, they can’t talk about the case & the media is not representing the whole truth - which I believe because I cannot stand ESPN and media talking heads. I called 317.917.6222 & asked to talk to the president & you may want to share your thoughts. Not sure if corner office execs really know or understand how simple fans (or the grass roots) feel. True they may not care, but if us simple fans from the Midwest yell & scream, they’ll have to take notice, wouldn’t they?
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@HawksWin good job!
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@JayHawkFanToo Yep, a very interesting read. I have never quite flushed the Cliff Alexander situation from my memory bank. Who actually benched Cliff Alexander? And, if his legal representative chooses to pursue a big money courtroom suit in Cliff’s behalf, whose nuts are in the fire? A preseason perceived lottery pick drops completely out of the first and second round of a high dollar NBA Draft, benched just at the juncture when his college coach reports that, in practices, Cliff is beginning to “get it.” Hard for me to imagine Cliff Alexander and Co. just quietly fading away from Jayhawk and Partnership NCAA Basketball.
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@globaljaybird
Holy Cow, that young man filled out!!!
Talk about a guy that we could have used!
Glad he survived and is on track at law school.
One question: how did he afford all of those tats?
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Agreed. It would seem the only way Cliff and his lawyer would walk quietly away from that situation would be if someone made it worth Cliff and his attorney to walk away.
Might it already have happened, since the silence is deafening?
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@REHawk I hope there’s never a Cliff lawsuit. You start getting people involved in that case that have subpoena power looking into the loan documents and KU is probably vacating last season.
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@globaljaybird Great article and great story on a great young man. Wish he could have been a Jayhawk, would have made us all proud. But, it seems like he has put himself in a position to do even greater things where he is at right now. Rock Chalk Braeden!
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@Texas-Hawk-10 Maybe that is how it went down: a Partnership agreement that NCAA would not backtrack on KU’s wins if Cliff was yanked from play when the story broke. Damned interesting to me that the eligibility question appeared never to have been publicly declared. And yeah, I think I hear you, Best for the program (and that 11th consecutive league title) if the entire brouhaha quietly just goes away. At this moment, at least, I pledge to shush.
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@jaybate-1.0 The almighty dollar often treads on little cat’s feet…
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True.
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Unlikely that it would happen. As soon as KU was officially notified, Cliff was benched for that evening’s game and he never played again, so the chances of KU getting penalized are pretty remote.
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@jaybate-1.0 It’s magic…
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I remember Braeden Anderson. I really wanted us to be able to play that kid. He really wanted to be here, at a time when it seemed we were losing the recruiting battles for the 5-star big men. He was the oldest in his family, and he had said that there was no way his mom could afford the tuition.
I had read about the accident, so it is really good to see that he is succeeding, on the court and off (someday to be “in court”).
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@JayHawkFanToo The loan happened in August, so the NCAA would retroactively declare Cliff ineligible from that date (wouldn’t be the first time they’ve done something like that) and considering people didn’t excatly cooperate with the investigation, I doubt the NCAA would go easy if they ever got a chance to dish out punishment for that situation.
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My guess would be the attorney saw the facts, put some sound bytes out there to me it look like they were willing to cooperate, but behind the scenes told Cliff’s family it would be best if you just moved on. Before you damage yourself and damage KU.
That being said it should only impact KU if it could be proven that they had knowledge of it. But you are right…who knows…they seem pretty unpredictable most of the time.
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If you are referring to Kentucky, the wins were taken retroactively because UK knew about the issue, conducted its own in-house investigation, determined there was no problem (big surprise) and did not inform the NCAA…so, the NCAA took the wins from the time UK new about the issue. KU, on the other hand, the same day it was informed of the investigation by the NCAA, sat Cliff’s butt and never played again; it acted by the book. Unless the NCAA can prove that KU knew about this issue earlier and did not inform the NCAA, I see no jeopardy for KU.
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@JayHawkFanToo What are you talking about? I didn’t reference any specific program ir prior. The way the Cliff situation would play out if the NCAA got their hands on the loan documents would be that Cliff would be retroactively ruled ineligible from the date his mom signed the loan papers. That allegedly happened in August well before the season started and therefore KU would forfeit all games Cliff played in.
I honestly don’t know which Kentucky situation you’re referencing, but the closest recent high profile case I can think of would be Derrick Rose. Rose was retroactively ruled ineligible after the season and Memphis had to forfeit every game Rose played in because the time he was deemed to be an ineligible player happened prior to any game Memphis had played.
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It was my understanding that the NCAA made Memphis aware of the potential concerns regarding Rose and they played him anyway.
I did look it up and the official record shows Memphis was 0-1 that year.
http://fs.ncaa.org/Docs/stats/m_basketball_RB/2015/DivI.pdf
Vacated wins start on page 49
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@SoftballDad2011 That’s my point. Derrick Rose was retroactively ruled ineligible starting at a certain date and Memphis forfeited every game Rose played in because he was an ineligible player.
The NCAA gave KU a heads up, but Cliff would’ve been ruled ineligible from the date those loan papers were signed which means KU would still have to forfeit every game Cliff played in and KU’s official record would be something like 6-5 for last year or whatever theor record was post sitting Cliff out.
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I understand your point.
So when did the NCAA serve notice?
And did they levy a penalty for the whole season because Memphis ignored that warning…whereas we complied immediately.
I don’t know those answers.
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Sorry I meant to say Memphis and Rose…all of Cal;ipari’s messes seem to merge together. The wins were taken away from Memphis because they were aware of the issue before the start of the season and they still played Rose and did not notify the NCAA. KU would have wins taken away only if it would have played Cliff after it found out about the loan or was officially notified by the NCAA. Like I said, unless the NCAA can prove the KU knew of the loan before it was notified, did nothing about it and did not notify the NCAA, then it is highly unlikely they take any wins from KU. Just my opinion.
