Guaranteed Rate Bowl News
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@dylans said in Guaranteed Rate Bowl News:
I didn’t watch all the football games, but Cobee and Grimm consistently stood out and seem like they could have a shot at the NFL. Neal could make a roster as well.
Do any KU players have a pro grade on them (draftable)? It seems like a couple of the big uglies sat out to get ready for the draft, so there should be at least that.
KU DE Austin Booker who sat out last night is expected to declare for the NFL Draft. Booker is projected as an early Day 3 pick (4th-5th round) right now.
Starting LT Dominick Puni also opted out to focus on NFL Draft prep work. He’s also currently projected as a 4th-5th round pick.
Both players are steadily moving up draft boards and could each move into 3rd round pick territory with good showings in the Senior Bowl for Puni and Pro Day and Combine for each player.
For the 2024 NFL Draft, Mike Novitsky will also have a chance to be a late round pick.
Overall, KU has quite a bit of potential NFL talent on the roster. Both starting CB’s Bryant amd Dotson have NFL futures, Devin Neal announced he was coming back yesterday after projecting as a 3rd-4th round pick this draft cycle. Jalon Daniels could be a pick he can stay healthy for a season. I don’t know that any of the receivers will be drafted next season, but at least Grimm amd Arnold should get training camp invites in 2025.
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I really love seeing KU players get drafted. Especially situations like this. Booker finally got a chance to see the field, for some reason Minnesota didn’t play him. Then with Puni, scouts got to see him play at a higher level.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 @BShark can you speak to whether it could be financially lucrative for Neal to stay, our emotions on the matter aside?
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@approxinfinity said in Guaranteed Rate Bowl News:
@Texas-Hawk-10 @BShark can you speak to whether it could be financially lucrative for Neal to stay, our emotions on the matter aside?
NIL deals help a bit, but I doubt it would be financially competitive with a rookie NFL contract in Neal’s case. A third round pick will make about $1 million per season on a rookie contract and a 7th round pick will make about $775k per season on a rookie deal.
Neal is definitely taking a financial risk by coming back next season because his NIL valuation is currently about $400k.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 thanks. Next years team not only projects to have talent but also passion for the program. Amazing stuff.
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I have a serious question for once.
During penalty breaks (so about 2 1/2 hours) the announcers were very complimentary of the KU program and the direction that LL has us heading.
My question is - did they talk like this when Mangino had us playing well and took us to bowl games in the day?
Is the program better or do we just have better players? I feel like the community embraces this team and definitely has better support from the A.D.
Bottom line - what’s different about us now and 25-ish years ago?
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@Don’t age me an extra decade!
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@nuleafjhawk said in Guaranteed Rate Bowl News:
I have a serious question for once.
During penalty breaks (so about 2 1/2 hours) the announcers were very complimentary of the KU program and the direction that LL has us heading.
My question is - did they talk like this when Mangino had us playing well and took us to bowl games in the day?
Is the program better or do we just have better players? I feel like the community embraces this team and definitely has better support from the A.D.
Bottom line - what’s different about us now and 25-ish years ago?
Mangino was an asshole of a human being who pissed a lot of people off around campus including high level donors and people in the AD’s office. He also didn’t make many friends in the media either. There’s a reason why other schools weren’t sniffing around Mangino when he broke through here. There’s also a reason why KU couldn’t secure the funding for stadium renovations even after the Orange Bowl and it was because of how much people hated Mangino as a person. Lew Perkins not being well liked either didn’t help when it came to fund raising.
Leipold is a much more personable and well liked person which is why he’s viewed much more favorably than Mangino ever was.
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@nuleafjhawk the program is much better the Orange bowl season was a one hit wonder after the way things went down. LL has an excellent chance at not only a bowl game for a third consecutive year for the first time in school history but this team at this moment with whom we know is returning could be playing for a conference championship next year.
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I know a guy that works in Lawrence and for the company Christmas party they had KU basketball players there. He said they cut them each 10k checks for about an hour of talking and taking pictures.
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@kjayhawks said in Guaranteed Rate Bowl News:
I know a guy that works in Lawrence and for the company Christmas party they had KU basketball players there. He said they cut them each 10k checks for about an hour of talking and taking pictures.
Basketball players at KU will generally earn more than the football players because that pie is much smaller. Even the walk on players will make quite a bit more in NIL than most of the football players will.
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Boy not going to lie, think we have a very legit shot at taking a run at the Big 12 title. -We got Jalen back , just hope he can stay healthy, our stud running back -and I tell you what I love this group of receivers, man these guys are just absolute studs, I think you would be hard pressed to find a better trio in the Big 12 Grimm - - Skinner----& Arnold Made some unbelievable catches last night.
Had to laugh at the color commentator on Arnold catch in the end zone saying yep you got Mossed- - Randy Moss , and another tim when can’t remember which one it was made a hell of a catch think it was Skinner— he says Stop - - -Stop it lol -Love this group of receivers
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What happened to the “catch” they were reviewing that looked legit by all announcers before commercial then we came back and nothing said but we guess it wasn’t!
skinner! I feel like we missed half the game by these idiots! Announcers and espn producers, camera guys? Sorry
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@Crimsonorblue22 when the mob says it ain’t a catch - it ain’t a catch.
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@nuleafjhawk saw somebody say it was Arnold not skinner. Anybody remember?
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@nuleafjhawk Leipold is reminding me of Bo Ryan. Bo won 4 DIII championships at UW Platteville in the 90’s, then got his break and was very successful at UW. He’s still the all time win percentage leader in the BIG. Leipold I think won 6 DIII championships at UW Whitewater. He knows how to win and I believe the ceiling is high. I’m pretty hyped, more than I remember being with Mangino.
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Not related to KU but WV/NC - -West Virginia score 11 seconds into the game lol
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@Texas-Hawk-10 If you are talking about on3’s algorithm that is just based on social media impressions + other unstated factors and is detached from reality.
If there were actual numbers put out there that is something differently entirely but I do not believe on3 at all. For example Kevin’s NIL value before the season was set under $100,000. A laughable number. They since increased it to around 800k.
I would agree that Neal is taking a risk though, I was surprised to hear that he is coming back.
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they replaying our game right now on ESPNU- getting ready to start 2nd half
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@wissox said in Guaranteed Rate Bowl News:
@nuleafjhawk Leipold is reminding me of Bo Ryan. Bo won 4 DIII championships at UW Platteville in the 90’s, then got his break and was very successful at UW. He’s still the all time win percentage leader in the BIG. Leipold I think won 6 DIII championships at UW Whitewater. He knows how to win and I believe the ceiling is high. I’m pretty hyped, more than I remember being with Mangino.
That is correct. He won 6 national championships in 8 years there. While that program is historically pretty good, those are also their only national titles, so Lance is the only coach to ever do that there.
The future of Kansas football is very bright as long as he sticks around. He is 59 though, so we don’t have too much longer, and need to nail the next hire as well.
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@BShark said in Guaranteed Rate Bowl News:
@Texas-Hawk-10 If you are talking about on3’s algorithm that is just based on social media impressions + other unstated factors and is detached from reality.
If there were actual numbers put out there that is something differently entirely but I do not believe on3 at all. For example Kevin’s NIL value before the season was set under $100,000. A laughable number. They since increased it to around 800k.
I would agree that Neal is taking a risk though, I was surprised to hear that he is coming back.
That’s why I used valuation and not what he actually earns because I don’t think we know the full amount someone like Devin Neal is actually earning in NIL.
on3 isn’t meant to be a place where you find out how much a player actually earns because there are variables involved in that such as what school a player goes to that on3 doesn’t necessarily factor in.
A star player for Kansas basketball is going to be pulling in high 6 figure or better in NIL money. We know Dickinson is likely making $2 million in NIL based on his recruitment. $100k is about the minimum I would expect any men’s KU basketball player to be pulling in simply because they play for Kansas basketball. I’d be very surprised if Dillon Wilhite, Patrick Cassidy, or Wilder Evers aren’t making 6 figures in NIL just being on the team.
Devin Neal coming back I’m going to guess is largely based on him being a local kid and wanting to take a run at a Big 12 title next season. He’ll also likely be on a lot of watch lists next season so he could possibly significantly bump his NIL earnings for next season.
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@jayballer67 LOL, I turn it on and I’m pissed at the refs again. Guy on UNLV ran out of bounds a full yard short of the 1st down and ref just waves the chain gang forward signaling 1st down.
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Lots media outlets called them out not only the telecast but the officiating. I still stand by my comment that both were a disgrace to CFB.
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I think Devin is coming back to break records and experience more KU’s new era. Kinda like Kenny
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Did I miss that contested catch?
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It wasn’t close! This call pissed me off so bad! It’s Jared freaking Casey! He’s a hero, Mr Applebees! He beat Texas! Big deal!
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It’s hard not to be super excited for next seasons offense even with coach K leaving. A great core of RBs and receivers to go with JD 6. Keeping him healthy and beefing up a little up front will be the keys.
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@kjayhawks said in Guaranteed Rate Bowl News:
It’s hard not to be super excited for next seasons offense even with coach K leaving. A great core of RBs and receivers to go with JD 6. Keeping him healthy and beefing up a little up front will be the keys.
Logan is a goot start on our O-Line, his 1st start last night - -think he took Puni’s spot - -he is one BIG BOY
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@wissox said in Guaranteed Rate Bowl News:
@jayballer67 LOL, I turn it on and I’m pissed at the refs again. Guy on UNLV ran out of bounds a full yard short of the 1st down and ref just waves the chain gang forward signaling 1st down.
I just wanted to see all the flags again lol, actually listened to ESPN people more tonight, last night I listed to Hanni & Lawrence- --3/4 of that game even the female play by play I actually didn’t think SHE was to bad - - the guy ,ummm not so much
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@jayballer67 both were bad, for sure.
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@approxinfinity said in Guaranteed Rate Bowl News:
@jayballer67 both were bad, for sure.
ya, I thought maybe 2nd time would be different lol
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Watching OSU bowl game, what a difference between their game and ours.
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Anyone hearing anything definitive about Cobee Bryant staying, transferring or going pro? He was to announce when his YouTube page hit 3,500 and it’s now 4,000+. Still crickets…
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@Gorilla72 He said today he would announce his decision on Jan 1. I would bet he is coming back.
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Just noticing all the game info they put on the screen during pop tart bowl. All penalties, who and what, plus players stats. So different than the D team we got. We were on espn. 🥴
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Im just glad we werent in the Dukes Mayo bowl. Thats just gross. Looks like they gave the WV coach the shirt he wore to get mayo dumped on him?
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@approxinfinity I wouldn’t do it!
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Jason is invited to the hula bowl! I’ll figure it out and fix it, but super cool and he deserves it!
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@Crimsonorblue22 said in Guaranteed Rate Bowl News:
https://x.com/ku_football/status/1740514139746041891?s=61&t=8gxVJFoXYFc_4K5Nm7wEnw
Very well deserved young man - - way to go- -what a Jay Hawk always be remembered
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If he can get a good NFL QB coach who can teach him how to read defenses better, he can have a solid NFL career.
He has elite speed and a very strong arm.
I recently read that he is #2 in KU ranking only behind Todd Reese on number of TDs thrown. That’s an extraordinary achievement considering he was a backup.
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@AsadZ by “read defenses better” I assume you mean to throw to his teammates instead of the other team?
I’m not knocking him - I love Jason Bean! But he does have a tendency to throw without thinking sometimes.
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@AsadZ he finishes his career #7 in all time passing yards and 2nd in passing touchdowns (huge gap from Ressing to everyone else) so he’s gonna be in the record books here for a while. Believe he is also is tied with Ressing with 6 passing touchdowns in a game.
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I got to be honest after watching the some of the other bowls yesterday including the Pop Tarts Bowl. I’m still salty about how egregious the coverage and commentary was for our game. You would’ve thought it wasn’t even a ESPN primetime game.
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@kjayhawks Hey - they have to put the scrub team somewhere - may as well be in the middle of the desert with two teams that historically nobody gives a crap about.
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@nuleafjhawk it’s should’ve been WV and UNC then lol
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@AsadZ said in Guaranteed Rate Bowl News:
If he can get a good NFL QB coach who can teach him how to read defenses better, he can have a solid NFL career.
He has elite speed and a very strong arm.
I recently read that he is #2 in KU ranking only behind Todd Reese on number of TDs thrown. That’s an extraordinary achievement considering he was a backup.
Bean is not an NFL caliber QB. His decision making just isn’t good enough and that’s not something a QB coach will be able to fix well enough to get Bean in the league.
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@Texas-Hawk-10 he is invited to the aloha bowl to play w/top players in front of scouts!
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@kjayhawks said in Guaranteed Rate Bowl News:
@AsadZ he finishes his career #7 in all time passing yards and 2nd in passing touchdowns (huge gap from Ressing to everyone else) so he’s gonna be in the record books here for a while. Believe he is also is tied with Ressing with 6 passing touchdowns in a game.
KU has some players that can either break or set new records or move very high up on some all time lists.
Jalon Daniels if he stays healthy next season, big if, could end up #2 in passing yards. He’s currently 9th at just under 4,300 yards and needs a little of 2,100 yards to move into second place in career passing yards. That would also out him somewhere in the top 10 for single season passing yards. Daniels needs 8 TD passes to move into 2nd on that list ahead of Bean.
Luke Grimm and Lawrence Arnold should move into 4th and 5th on KU’s all time receptions list. Grimm has 126 and Arnold has 121. Mark Simmons currently sits 4th at 155 so it seems likely that both Grimm and Arnold could get 30 and 35 receptions respectively to each pass Simmons.
Receiving yards is going to be a fun one to watch where Arnold and Grimm end up. Depending on next season, they could end up 2nd and 3rd all time. Arnold is 723 yards behind Steven Sims for 2nd and Grimm is 800 yards behind Sims. Doubt Grimm gets there based on career production, but Arnold should have a shot to pass Sims based on the last 2 years.
Grimm and Arnold could also end up 2nd and 3rd in TD receptions as well. Sims is currently second at 19 so Grimm only needs 3 to pass Sims which seems likely and Arnold needs 7 which is less likely, but still possible.
The player that could sit atop the KU record books after next season is Devin Neal. June Henley currently sits atop the rushing list with 3,841 yards. Neal is currently 4th all time at 3,077 rushing yards. If he stays healthy, it seems likely Neal breaks that record. Neal will also likely break Henley’s career rushing TD recod as well. Henley had 41, Neal is currently 3rd all time at 33 TD’s.
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@Crimsonorblue22 said in Guaranteed Rate Bowl News:
@Texas-Hawk-10 he is invited to the aloha bowl to play w/top players in front of scouts!
It’s a lower level all star game that’s notnthe caliber of the Senior Bowl which is the one that will produce the most NFL talent. This one is going to be more for lower level pro leagues like the CFL, XFL/USFL. Bean very well could end up in one of those leagues, I just don’t believe he has the decision making of an NFL caliber QB.
