Ok guys , so what am I missing, got to be things
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Guys I’ve been thinking the last couple of days , actually at different times this season. Now I hear some people here and there and I agree with them but I dunno , and I could be wrong and I’ll readily admit chances are I am.
Don’t get me wrong I love KU actually I’ve let my feelings/emotions probably go to far sometimes throughout my life - - especially when I was younger. At a younger age you just didn’t say a single thing bad about the guys or we would have issues - - typical hot head to quick of temper, have been able to manage to temper that some lol.
Ok so anyways just have to ask - - WHAT am I missing about this group of guys ? – I mean were good ,I know that not saying that at all BUT for some reason this team just does not WOW me. Where is the WOW in this team ? You know what I’m saying ? - This team does just not sit me back and say like DAM they crazy good -no flash. I mean you know - - where is that WOW factor at with this team ? - Someone tell me with this team just stuns you, makes you say - - we got this - -something that you just kinda of like OH YA - we good . - I just don’t see it, not necessarily saying it has to be that way, but in years past we had that player that just kind of like at times you could go DAM - they just balled. - I dunno I know making a lot of nothing but just different. - If I were an opponent, this current KU team would not be a team that intimidated me, they just don’t look or put out that kind of vibe where they can do that.
I mean cause look at it, sure we have beaten the teams we should of Beaten BUT what would you say has been our best win this year ? - - Every time we have been challenged by other teams closer to us - - we have got beat. Duke ,Villa Nova , Baylor -what’s our quality tier one win this year? Would have to be West Virginia.
I could easily see us losing at West Virginia - - - Baylor - - - Texas Tech - hell never say never to K- State upsetting us at their pig pen with their extra added motovaition -probably not but a chance. - -Like I said I’m happy with the way the Season has gone but just not had the socks knocked off, a lot of inconsistences Will still say IF we don’t win the NC, you watch it’s going to be what’s been our weakness all year - -our inconsistent 3 pt shooting & Free Throw shooting. - -just some pondering thoughts guys. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Dayton, but the resume is lacking even with the most tier one wins.
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Chiefs Football is over in the best way. I think that’s going to change the attention and emotion level.
I actually think we have a pretty good WOW team with Doke Dotson and Garett. Those three are unstoppable. Non-KU fans I talk to wonder why KU doesn’t throw it to Doke every possession. Braun and Ochai are the local guys… we’ll look back at this year and remember this as an exciting season if we get to the final 4. (Remember when the chiefs won the superbowl the same year the Jayhawks won the championship? That’d be cool)
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@jayballer73 this team is heating up. Just wait for it. I think you will feel it soon.
The things that do not wow are clear. Our passing game isn’t often great. Our three point shooting, ditto.
But surely Dotsons game against Dayton was filthy. Doke is amazingly limber this year and still just as strong as ever. Marcus makes defensive plays that makes opponents look stupid or slow. Braun is a hell of a freshman, stone cold. And every shot clock violation or stolen pass our d induces makes me smile.
For me, Wow isn’t about what I think generally about the team. Wow is a visceral reaction to an in-game sequence. And there are more and more of those I think as we go along. Just imagine that we have a hall of fame coach who is still testing and tinkering and won’t put the whole machine together until March.
I plan to be amazed at the end product.
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I think we are flying under the radar as far as a wow factor or high light reel team. Look at Doke. He’s , knock on wood, going to break the NCAA record for fg %. To me that’s more of a wow than making ESPNs top 10 plays of the week.
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Our defense is ridiculous.
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I really appreciate all the responses guys thanks , and I appreciate it too. Like I said I’m not saying I’m right by any means , and several really good points brought up.
For sure really like the defense. Yes Dotson game against Dayton was ugly, however Devon’s outside shot very easily could end up killing us , less then 30 % from the 3. We have all seen what happens when you put an elite defender against him. - -Baylor pretty well equalized him with the guy they had defend him.
I think one thing we have for sure going in our favor this year is that there just isn’t any elite team. - Tonight is just another perfect example of this crazy season Villanova goes down again Purdue a team that was last in Scoring is in last place in the league - - Scores 104 points - - - scores 66 points in one half - - hits NINETEEN THREE POINTERS - - - NINETEEN ! ! ! and defeats a ranked Iowa team, Crazy , Crazy year. I appreciate the responses guys, I can’t really put up a good defense for this - -I know I believe one reason throwing me off is I think it’s called our Offensive ratio efficiency is down - - the tempo of our game is WAY down I guess why or part of it is we just don’t get out and run like in years past that’s what I’m missing faster tempo. Yet we are to shaky with our ball handling for that I guess.
I think part of why I’m not seeing the WOW is inconsistent 3 point shooting - - -shaky ball control - - not very good free throw shooting - -those things can add up to an early exit in March, guess I’m worried about those things
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Steady!
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@BShark said in Ok guys , so what am I missing, got to be things:
Our defense is ridiculous.
Correct. This is one of Self’s best defensive teams at Kansas. The offense isn’t elite, but it’s good enough to keep up with teams when they get hot (Dayton made sixteen 3-pointers but we only turned the ball over 11 times). We get into trouble when we turn the ball over excessively and don’t make other teams play against our half-court defense.
We’re ranked 3rd in defensive efficiency and 9th in offensive efficiency per Ken Pomeroy. The 11-12 team that lost in the national championship game to Kentucky was also 3rd in defensive efficiency and 23rd in offensive efficiency. I think we’re similar to that team, but with a little more depth/upside on offense. That team won 3 games in the tournament by a margin of 3 points. Again, similar to that team, if we make a deep run in the tournament I don’t think we’re going to be blowing teams out. We have a problem with keeping our foot on the gas pedal. I worry about our free-throw shooting in close games, but I think Self is smart enough to make sure we’re putting our better free-throw shooters on the line at the end of games.
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@jayballer73 our tempo is down due to our offense not being elite as other years. We lower possessions creating a lower tempo. We don’t have Frank Mason Devonte Graham, Svi, or cough Vick type of shooting but we have one heck of a defense.
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@rockchalkwyo said in Ok guys , so what am I missing, got to be things:
@jayballer73 our tempo is down due to our offense not being elite as other years. We lower possessions creating a lower tempo. We don’t have Frank Mason Devonte Graham, Svi, or cough Vick type of shooting but we have one heck of a defense.
Agreed. - -That for sure we do
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Maybe the “Wow” factor is missing because of the offense. We don’t make perimeter shots a high rate, passing is not a strength & our transition game is non-existent these days. Slowing tempo, playing suffocating defense and lots of individual play-making have become this teams identity. I was thinking the other day 19-3 is pretty darn good. If we can win on the road against West Virginia & Baylor coming up I’ll think this team is capable of anything.
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@BeddieKU23 said in Ok guys , so what am I missing, got to be things:
Maybe the “Wow” factor is missing because of the offense. We don’t make perimeter shots a high rate, passing is not a strength & our transition game is non-existent these days. Slowing tempo, playing suffocating defense and lots of individual play-making have become this teams identity. I was thinking the other day 19-3 is pretty darn good. If we can win on the road against West Virginia & Baylor coming up I’ll think this team is capable of anything.
ya , I think you make some very solid points ALL of the things you mentioned figure in some to what I’m thinking also - -we just don’t get out and run as much - - our outside shooting is very suspect. Devon’s outside game is horrible, and just hope he doesn’t cost us in March by not being able to knock it down.
Just not use to the slower tempo. - -Who was it I heard the other day some color guy saying a reason Bill was slower tempo this year was that we just didn’t have the athletes to run this year - - I don’t know if I’d go that far BUT - -very solid points you make my friend. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
You talking about individual play, not sure if anyone else noticed in the game can’t remember who it was but individual play where we had THREE guys practically standing right next to one another watching this guy - -it was like ok man go get some do your thing. I’ve NEVER in my time of over 55 years of being a KU fan eve remember having three guys just stand and watch a player try and make a play.
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@jayballer73 said in Ok guys , so what am I missing, got to be things:
Guys I’ve been thinking the last couple of days , actually at different times this season. Now I hear some people here and there and I agree with them but I dunno , and I could be wrong and I’ll readily admit chances are I am.
Don’t get me wrong I love KU actually I’ve let my feelings/emotions probably go to far sometimes throughout my life - - especially when I was younger. At a younger age you just didn’t say a single thing bad about the guys or we would have issues - - typical hot head to quick of temper, have been able to manage to temper that some lol.
Ok so anyways just have to ask - - WHAT am I missing about this group of guys ? – I mean were good ,I know that not saying that at all BUT for some reason this team just does not WOW me. Where is the WOW in this team ? You know what I’m saying ? - This team does just not sit me back and say like DAM they crazy good -no flash. I mean you know - - where is that WOW factor at with this team ? - Someone tell me with this team just stuns you, makes you say - - we got this - -something that you just kinda of like OH YA - we good . - I just don’t see it, not necessarily saying it has to be that way, but in years past we had that player that just kind of like at times you could go DAM - they just balled. - I dunno I know making a lot of nothing but just different. - If I were an opponent, this current KU team would not be a team that intimidated me, they just don’t look or put out that kind of vibe where they can do that.
I mean cause look at it, sure we have beaten the teams we should of Beaten BUT what would you say has been our best win this year ? - - Every time we have been challenged by other teams closer to us - - we have got beat. Duke ,Villa Nova , Baylor -what’s our quality tier one win this year? Would have to be West Virginia.
I could easily see us losing at West Virginia - - - Baylor - - - Texas Tech - hell never say never to K- State upsetting us at their pig pen with their extra added motovaition -probably not but a chance. - -Like I said I’m happy with the way the Season has gone but just not had the socks knocked off, a lot of inconsistences Will still say IF we don’t win the NC, you watch it’s going to be what’s been our weakness all year - -our inconsistent 3 pt shooting & Free Throw shooting. - -just some pondering thoughts guys. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
This post didn’t age well… Just giving you a hard time, friend! @jayballer73 Seems like we are having some fun now!
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@benshawks08 said in Ok guys , so what am I missing, got to be things:
@jayballer73 said in Ok guys , so what am I missing, got to be things:
Guys I’ve been thinking the last couple of days , actually at different times this season. Now I hear some people here and there and I agree with them but I dunno , and I could be wrong and I’ll readily admit chances are I am.
Don’t get me wrong I love KU actually I’ve let my feelings/emotions probably go to far sometimes throughout my life - - especially when I was younger. At a younger age you just didn’t say a single thing bad about the guys or we would have issues - - typical hot head to quick of temper, have been able to manage to temper that some lol.
Ok so anyways just have to ask - - WHAT am I missing about this group of guys ? – I mean were good ,I know that not saying that at all BUT for some reason this team just does not WOW me. Where is the WOW in this team ? You know what I’m saying ? - This team does just not sit me back and say like DAM they crazy good -no flash. I mean you know - - where is that WOW factor at with this team ? - Someone tell me with this team just stuns you, makes you say - - we got this - -something that you just kinda of like OH YA - we good . - I just don’t see it, not necessarily saying it has to be that way, but in years past we had that player that just kind of like at times you could go DAM - they just balled. - I dunno I know making a lot of nothing but just different. - If I were an opponent, this current KU team would not be a team that intimidated me, they just don’t look or put out that kind of vibe where they can do that.
I mean cause look at it, sure we have beaten the teams we should of Beaten BUT what would you say has been our best win this year ? - - Every time we have been challenged by other teams closer to us - - we have got beat. Duke ,Villa Nova , Baylor -what’s our quality tier one win this year? Would have to be West Virginia.
I could easily see us losing at West Virginia - - - Baylor - - - Texas Tech - hell never say never to K- State upsetting us at their pig pen with their extra added motovaition -probably not but a chance. - -Like I said I’m happy with the way the Season has gone but just not had the socks knocked off, a lot of inconsistences Will still say IF we don’t win the NC, you watch it’s going to be what’s been our weakness all year - -our inconsistent 3 pt shooting & Free Throw shooting. - -just some pondering thoughts guys. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
This post didn’t age well… Just giving you a hard time, friend! @jayballer73 Seems like we are having some fun now!
lol ya just like I opened mouth and inserted foot by challenging Ochai , and what’s he do promptly goes out and kills it with 15 - - I’ll sit down now lmao. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
