New 2019 Recruiting
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BShark said:
@jayballer73 Well, the date is set and we didn’t hear anything about a visit with Howard. You wouldn’t think they would set a date and then take visits. That’s said…with this recruiting cycle…I assume NOTHING good for KU ya know?
probably pretty solid thinking on your part. - The last I knew was they were trying to get some kind of a date set - -but heard nothing more - I think that maybe losing the top two that was really involved with his recruitment just really sealed their fate - -like you I just can’t take anything for granted until he actually commits.
Even with him announcing I guess really all we got is his verbal word right? - -I don’t think they have to sign an LOI right now sign the actual recruiting period is over do they? - -man would be nice to finish this year getting him to come and then Moss. - I mean how crazy is this , here we are and we still recruiting trying to get our 2091 roster on the 7th of June - - - JUMIN - - GEE - - HOSSA - - FATS.
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FarmerJayhawk said:
Howard also can’t recruit yet since he hasn’t passed the NCAA exam
That’s a killer for them - -hell I didn’t even know of anything like that - -shows how much I know lol - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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So got a question. With the way things now look to be playing out , - - if they do indeed come to being true , the question now becomes for me anyways. Do we continue to recruit Josaphat Belau for our 13th scholli limit player?
I know if Wilson and Moss both commit - -that would leave us with ONE. Do we try and get the kid to take it - -I would think it would be worth the shot , get him to come - -redshirt him and work with him and develop think he could be a good 3-4 yr player - - has he set his visit date? - -do we still pursue him or do we back off? - I’d stay on him I think for the upcoming years. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@jayballer73 Yes we absolutely should. Need bigs in the pipeline for the season after next
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@jayballer73 assuming his grades are fine, 100% I’d take Bilau. It’s a no risk play. If he doesn’t develop he walks, if he does you’ve got something for another 4 years (assuming he redshirts) moving forward. Best case he turns into Kerry Blackshear.
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FarmerJayhawk said:
@jayballer73 assuming his grades are fine, 100% I’d take Bilau. It’s a no risk play. If he doesn’t develop he walks, if he does you’ve got something for another 4 years (assuming he redshirts) moving forward. Best case he turns into Kerry Blackshear.
Actually like his J - got a little range. For sure there is a lot hell of worse players out there. - You can see he has some tools - just needs a little work
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@jayballer73 - Yes, it is late in the game. However, there are decent, 3-4 year players left from which to choose. UNC has spots open, Michigan, maybe Memphis, etc. I’m just pleased HCBS can scrabble this together. Heck, with Moss and Wilson, it’s a Top 5-10 team. And there’s still an open scholarship for a developmental guy.
My (our?) personal stress aside, waiting could have helped KU turn out a fantastic team…
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Also curious… it doesn’t look like Jalen Wilson is following anything KU related on Twitter.
Probably means nothing (or it means these eyes aren’t working well this late)
Gun shy at this point…
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Gorilla72 said:
Also curious… it doesn’t look like Jalen Wilson is following anything KU related on Twitter.
Probably means nothing (or it means these eyes aren’t working well this late)
Gun shy at this point…
I wouldn’t really rea a lot in that. - Everything looking like good - but like others have said snake bit before this season. - -however we also have to remember Jalen had KU written all over him the 1st time before he ended up committing to Michigan, look this way he went to Michigan - when KU was all over him the 1st time – he gets his release THIS time and Ku is ONE of the only TWO visits he took - I think you combining those two scenarios together - think we are sitting ok - on top of the fact - -I sure haven’t really seen anything on the North Carolina boards where they ar thumping their chests which would give me any thought that they are feeling good about their chances. - -So just have to wait - -crazy season. - - ROC CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Man, if this late in the freaking game we get both Wilson and Moss as well as Bilau, are you kidding me? Anyway, it looks like the bad press - at least for us - is finally coming to an end. Add a monster class in '20 to the guys that we have and that we might be signing and look out! I already liked our team for this coming season, and that was without adding those guys.
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Bilau visited Tennessee, he reported an offer but I’m not too sure how commit-able it is.
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I have to think as a Jayhawk fan the worst possible scenario we could hear would be - - - -Jalen coming out an saying he was delaying his commitment. - Which if he indeed said that could only mean Juwan had actually got a time sit up to be able to talk to Jalen. - -That would be a nightmare. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Someone mentioned the NCAA exam for Howard to be able to recruit, which is true. Look, I don’t blame Michigan for wanting to make a splash hire, but have any of these NBA guys made good college coaches? They might as well go ahead and sign off on their upcoming NCAA allegations and get it over with.
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Well read this from a poster off the phog , and I sit back and thought about it - - -pondered some on it , and thought hmmmm I suppose what he said could have some validity , I mean it wouldn’t be totally out of the realm of possibility. - -Now Steve not trying to upset you - -just relaying this thought from another Ku/poster buddy - and just saying his thought COULD and again I’m saying it will - -but COULD come to light:
This posters thought process was this: He said he had heard we never really came out and offered Moss the 1st go around - - -yes or no - - -I seriously don’t know if we did or not , so he says he is not really that sure we will strongly persue him the 2nd go around - -his reasoning is - - - - – 1st he thinks that we was focusing on Jalen more then anything - -which it looks like could pay off BUT after Jalen , he is raising the thought/possibility that we might instead of Moss use our other Scholli’s on the development - project of someone like Josaphat Belau - - then possibly just holding the last one for the possibility of re-classification - -I’m assuming he is talking about Walker.
Now I think more likely then not we try to get Moss -and Wilson and then possibly Josaphat - -and leave Walker in 2020 - -BUT the only thing I wanted to mention was I mean he is just not insane - and had some valid possibility - - I mean it could HAPPEN not likely but at least made SOME sense - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@jayballer73 So we’re not going to offer Moss because we need another big? We already have 5 bigs for 2 spots, and we have 5 guards ( 2 freshmen included) for 3 spots. My question is…can Jalen play the 2? Can Ochai play the 2? And I would say no to both. So, when was the last time that Bill only had 1 good ball handling guard in the lineup? Like…never? Now, Marcus can definitely play the 2, but he’s not the greatest at shooting. And Moss has more experience than any guard we have, and he is pretty good at shooting.
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KUSTEVE said:
@jayballer73 So we’re not going to offer Moss because we need another big? We already have 5 bigs for 2 spots, and we have 5 guards ( 2 freshmen included) for 3 spots. My question is…can Jalen play the 2? Can Ochai play the 2? And I would say no to both. So, when was the last time that Bill only had 1 good ball handling guard in the lineup? Like…never? Now, Marcus can definitely play the 2, but he’s not the greatest at shooting. And Moss has more experience than any guard we have, and he is pretty good at shooting.
Easy Johnny , I’m only passing this along - not necessarily MY thoughts. - - All I said was the poster made some valid points - -don’t be getting the ol britches all twisted up to tight lol.
I think the way he is looking at it the big they might be trying to get or would be trying wouldn’t even be playing this year. - This is the developmental player that they would red shirt next year and let him develop for the following year when we wouldn’t have the 5 bigs you talking about. – We would be losing Doke - -Chances are we will lose Silvio - - and then Mitch graduates - -so there goes 3-5 your talking about with only McCormack and Wilson back - -if they get this kid, and he is coming for a visit by the way - -90% chance he red shits next year - -but that Scholi would go to him - makes sense to me.
Yes Ochai could play the 2 if necessary - -Jalen already been talked about how he can play multiple positions and the 2 has been one of the positions mentioned so ya from the sounds of it he could play the 2 at times also - -like I said don’t hate the player - - -hate the game roflmao – ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@KUSTEVE Take Moss all day long, need an outside shooter.
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Well good ol Fran tweeted out about an hour ago. Moss opening up his recruitment and saying looks like Kansas is the favorite.
Ol Fran right up to date lol - -nothing better then a day late and a dollar short - -tell us something we haven’t already heard lol. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Nothing big really but kind of looks as our competition might be throwing in the towels - -the fans I’m talking about for Jalen.
Off the Michigan board - -hasn’t been any comment about the possibility Jalen re-committing to Michigan for 2 days – & North Carolina fans – little comment on him - -and most the one’s said are about looking likely for KU - -only other comments are typical starting to throw the cheap jabs - - typical after you realize you have lost out on a recruit lol. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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@jayballer73 Sounds familiar, doesn’t it?
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You guys already metioned that the time and date is set for Wilson’s announcement right? https://247sports.com/college/kansas/Article/Recruiting-Decision-date-time-info-for-KU-basketball-target-Jalen-Wilson-132706231/
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That article also talks about Grimes possibly transfering to Texas A&M or Houston.
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@approxinfinity Surprised Sampson hasn’t already shot him off a text.
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Playa Daniels changed his CB pick back to KU.
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BShark said:
Playa Daniels changed his CB pick back to KU.
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FarmerJayhawk said:
BShark said:
Playa Daniels changed his CB pick back to KU.
Who have you heard from?
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BShark said:
FarmerJayhawk said:
BShark said:
Playa Daniels changed his CB pick back to KU.
Who have you heard from?Nobody who thinks UNC or Michigan has a prayer. UNC folks felt they needed to blow Wilson away and then some, but they don’t think they had a super clear role for Wilson in year 1 and the relationship between Wilson/UNC never really took off like he and Self (who took a very personal role on this one) and Wilson & family.
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BShark said:
Playa Daniels changed his CB pick back to KU.
hopefully that means the word is out! I think it does
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If Wilson commits who do you all think starts in the backcourt besides Dotson? I would like it to be Moss and Agbaji but I have a feeling that Jalen may start.
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@KirkIsMyHinrich Starting - Dok, Silvio, Wilson (who I am happy to be wrong about, and we are signing), Dotson and Moss. Second 5 - Dave, Mitch, Enaruna, McBride and Agbaji. Garrett, Braun (who might be redshirted) and Bilau being mixed and matched. The lineup possibilities are damn near endless (I see Enaruna getting some PT at the 4).
That would be thirteen scholarships, beyond maddening how it all went down but I will be very cool with this team and the freshman class. Five freshman but redshirt one which will give us four, three sophomores, two juniors and three seniors - near perfect class balance. Silver lining’s playbook in how this class fell into place, gonna reap huge benefits for years to come.
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KirkIsMyHinrich said:
If Wilson commits who do you all think starts in the backcourt besides Dotson? I would like it to be Moss and Agbaji but I have a feeling that Jalen may start.
I think Moss and Agbaji will start. I think Garrett plays starter minutes at whatever position we need depending on matchup. Wilson will play some 3, mostly 4 I’d imagine.
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Ok I realize daniels changed his back to KU for Jalen this morning - - BUT who is the other one that put KU as their pick today?
Went to bed last night and KU was at 44% - -and Michigan 39% - -Then we went when Daniels picked us to 51 % - -we are now at 56% - -and Michigan at 33 % - - anyone know?
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Billy Embody. Dude knows his stuff in Texas.
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How in the world does Wilson start over Agbaji – or more precisely, why would we think that would be the case?
If Wilson is better, then ok. But why would we assume that Wilson is better?
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Watch out! Gary Parrish moved us up from #12 to #7. Still has us behind Memphis and Maryland.
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I want Agbaji to start. I’m worried about Bill promising starting spots to recruits. I haven’t seen Jalen play a game in college basketball yet. Maybe he is better.
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HighEliteMajor said:
How in the world does Wilson start over Agbaji – or more precisely, why would we think that would be the case?
If Wilson is better, then ok. But why would we assume that Wilson is better?
Well one might say - just off ranking Wilson is a higher ranked player he is # 50 and it was said he was under ranked - - - probably handles the ball some better - -rebounds well - course that’s just of ranking - -I don’t think it matters - as been said many many times and how Bill put it - it’s not as much as who starts - it’s who is on the floor at crunch time - - -to many people worried about who starts. - Hell I’ve seen where some players START and then maybe play a whole total of 15 minutes the entire game - -again don’t get to hung up on who starts games - -very easy might not end up majority of minutes
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I feel pretty confident Ochai will start. Remember he even started over Garrett last year when we went back to 2 bigs. Wilson and Ochai can’t play together unless Ochai really inprmoves his handle. I honestly think Wilson sees more minutes at the 4 than the 3.
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FarmerJayhawk said:
I feel pretty confident Ochai will start. Remember he even started over Garrett last year when we went back to 2 bigs. Wilson and Ochai can’t play together unless Ochai really inprmoves his handle. I honestly think Wilson sees more minutes at the 4 than the 3.
he playing the 4 - - -over Silvio? - I have just felt he was locked into the 3
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Not over Silvio. I don’t think Wilson starts. Another utility guy who can play 3 and stretch 4.
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KirkIsMyHinrich said:
I want Agbaji to start. I’m worried about Bill promising starting spots to recruits. I haven’t seen Jalen play a game in college basketball yet. Maybe he is better.
Don’t think that’s an issue here. Guessing the pitch was more “you can come in, compete and likely get minutes”. Wilson, no offense, isn’t in the perceived must start range to need a promise.
Like everyone else I think Ochai starts. Ochai is a Bill Self type player.
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Well saw we just got bumped again we are now at 61% in the CB for Jalen - -up from 56 % earlier today - another pick -really rolling now
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Ochai is a much more athletic player than Jalen with +1 year of experience. The only way Jalen starts is if he shoots the lights out and Ochai can’t hit his shot. It’s possible, but i don’t think we will see it.
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#TRUSTINSELF
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ATTENTION - - - - -ATENTION - - -ATTENTION PLEASE. - - T-Minus 23 hours - - 12 minutes until announcement time of our last recruitment for the year of 2019 looks like. - - Jalen Wilson - -ATTENTION - -ATTENTION PLEASE - -this is your approaching 23 hour warning - - That is All. - - - lmao - - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Ok so , let’s have a show of hands. - -How many here think that N Carolina has a legit chance of landing Wilson? - -I mean truly legit - -please raise your hands. - -Cause evidentially some N Carolina fans still believe they have a good shot - -mainly because of Moss coming here - -just holler let me know. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Kansas.
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FarmerJayhawk said:
Kansas.
I’m with ya Buddy - - - I’m with ya. - -just had to share this I read these and thought - -what am I missing? - - -personally for me , I’ve NEVER considered North Carolina a threat in this recruitment. - -For me - -it was either KU OR he was going to return to Michigan - -never N Carolina. - -just me. - - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
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Unc has no chance
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21 hours and 39 minutes lmao - -I know - -I know. - - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY
