April Texas Hold'em Flop
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@HighEliteMajor now that’s funny! Is AWIII staying?
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Gosh… I think you are right!
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70% of the “experts” had Randle to Kansas and Wiggins to Kentucky. I kinda hope they’re backwards on this one also.
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@drgnslayr Best thread in weeks slayr, you’ve regained my focus…if that’s possible. One thought -he also could be holding out knowing full well he’s putting the meat to other Big 12 schools by doing so & stepping into Barnes starting lineup at UT? Ridley is experienced, but he damn sure ain’t Turner. Plus after all, he is a Texan.
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Heckuva piece of writing, slayr!
Myles ought to come, but the Karviar Shepherd should have, too. Something happens to a lot of these big men down the stretch of their recruiting. You make clear: they should all be picking KU.
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Just saw that Jeff Goodman and Paul Biancardihave tweeted Myles Turner has set his announcement date for April 30. Included in the tweets is a program note that Matt Schick of ESPNU will be talking to Turner sometime today during their national signing day special at 3 PM eastern/2 pm central time. For anybody that has ESPNU and is interested in checking that out. Anyway…2 more weeks of speculation.
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Just watched the portions of the signing day special that interested me. First they talked to Turner. He didn’t give any clues as to where he might be leaning. Said the most important thing for him was where he felt the most comfortable - with the coaching staff, with the players, etc. He seems like an Andrew Wiggins type guy, in that Wiggins chose to come to KU in part because he was really laid back/even-keeled and felt comfortable around guys like Selden & Embiid whom he came to know through various all-star games and whatnot. I think Turner is going to make the same type of decision. I don’t know if he has that same comfort level with guys like Alexander & Oubre that Wiggins did with his fellow classmates, but I do think the opportunity is there where it is not for a school like Texas, simply because Turner isn’t making the rounds at these various all-star games with anybody else who is going to Texas.
Immediately after speaking with Turner the crew spoke with both Alexander & Oubre. Oubre said (as I have read he has said in the past) that he has told Turner to do what is best for him & his family, but also said he thinks he should come with them to Kansas. Alexander spoke more on the departure of Embiid, how it wasn’t really a surprise to him because if someone told him he could possibly be the #1 player in the NBA draft he would leave too. Both players spoke of wanting to win a national championship.
Kind of funny that the studio crew mentioned how set we would be if we brought in Turner, except that we really needed a point guard.
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@icthawkfan316 Thanks for the updates and insight.
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TURNER TO TEXAS
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The article says, “All signs…”
Maybe Moore should get real and say, “A sign…”
Big difference.
We’ve learned our lessons on recruiting. It can backfire to call a player out before he announces.
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@wrwlumpy He can say what he wants now and every word could be interpited how ever you wanted, maybe his backyard is Baylor? Or maybe he looks down on the State of Oklahoma when he is saying down there.
I’ll wait and rejoice or wonder when he puts on a hat on the 30th.
Oh is that a sign a hat???
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We are 1-for-1 in recent hat ceremonies.
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@drgnslayr Just saying most hat ceremonies don’t seem to go our way, most of KU’s guys don’t even use the hats.
Why can’t a kid be original and do a card trick or something, maybe some magic?
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@JRyman Yeah! Maybe they could hold up a sign that says;
0AD2KU
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Great license plate, too.
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I know… I was being half sarcastic.
Yeah… how about he flips a coin and says… “heads to KU, tails to Texas.”
Or cut the deck and play hi/lo… hey, that’s the offense we run!
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Or cut the deck and play hi/lo… hey, that’s the offense we run!
@drgnslayr You know what the “experts” would say after reading that? “All signs point to KU”
Speaking of signs, maybe hold up a One way sign that is blue and red and could read “One and done”
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Man, it is brutal reading the comments over on kusports. Just looked in on the Turner article today. So glad we have this site.
At this point, I don’t think we land Turner. The biggest hope I’d had for him coming in was that he was waiting for Embiid to declare to free up playing time. If that was the case though, that his mind was made up that he was coming to KU with Embiid gone, I don’t think he’d be waiting so long to announce his decision.
So given the wait, I’m not sure what to make of it. Does he really not know where he wants to go? Are there still mitigating factors waiting to play themselves out? Lumpy posted a link indicating he had made up his mind to go to Texas. If that was the case, if he has already decided, why wait? I don’t get it. The only thing there is that maybe he decided and ESPN told him when to announce, or at least when they would be willing to cover the announcement live. From what interviews I’ve seen and read, he doesn’t come off as doing this for the attention or trying to create drama. But if that is the case, it comes off as pretty unsavory. Say what you will about Wiggins and his OAD hype, but he didn’t create a circus around himself. He announced quietly to a single reporter.
If he does pass on KU, I’m hoping Larry Brown gets him down at SMU. I’d even settle for Texas getting him. Anybody but Dook at this point.
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@icthawkfan316 Just when I think I’m out, they pull me back in …
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@icthawkfan316 if he has already decided, why wait? I don’t get it
My thought is he saw what happened with Wiggins last year, all the speculation, all the extra free press surrounding his decision, his own day sorta speak. Maybe he wants that?
If he does pass on KU, I’m hoping Larry Brown gets him down at SMU. I’d even settle for Texas getting him. Anybody but Dook at this point.
I don’t want him at Texas so that Barnes gets all this credit for being a good coach, when we know in all reality of the basketball world he could not coach his way out of a wet paper sack. STill can’t believe he won Big12 COY this past season, over Hoiberg, Self and Krugger.
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@icthawkfan316 I don’t know why, gut feeling I guess, I think he comes here. From everything I read, he seems like a pretty quality kid! I sat across from him on senior pm, he was really having fun! Of course, Tarik’s speech was the best recruiting tool.
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I keep thinking about Myles… everything he has said until now… the type of player he can be… the type of player he wants to be.
His idol is Kevin Durant. I can’t blame him for that. Durant is one of my idol’s, too. But think about what Kevin’s game is. It isn’t the Bill Self hi/lo.
Reading that article, you can take from it the sales pitch used by Kansas. The sales pitch is that they wouldn’t always (or ever) use Myles in the low post on the hi/lo. They will use Alexander for that, and use Myles all over the court, often the perimeter, to nail 3s and whatever else is available.
Notice what Myles DIDN’T say! He didn’t say how he was looking forward to getting in the low post and working the hi/lo. And why should he? He isn’t built for that (yet) and, realistically, he never will be. His future pro game should mimic his idol, Durant!
So now, when you look at it that way… does Kansas have the advantage on recruiting Myles? I think we lose many of the advantages we hold with most 7-footers. Most footers are looking to be a star in the post. Self’s hi/lo is built for those players. Just don’t expect us to put Cliff on the left side and Myles on the right side of a hi/lo set if he does pick Kansas. Ain’t gonna happen!
I’m psyched to think of the possibilities if he does pick us… and if Self can think outside of the box and not try to force the square peg in the round hole (thin footer to become a post monster).
Myles can shoot, and I admire him for going after Durant’s game! Smart kid!
Don’t know that we land him, but I hope he stays in the B12 so we can watch his game closer!
Why is it taking so long for Myles to pick a school?
Perhaps it takes that long to negotiate a deal. I think the longer it goes on, the higher chance we have of landing him. This is like an extended poker hand… and Self is pretty good at playing that game. I’ll say this again… Self is the best recruiter in the country after March Madness. When the pressure is on, he gets what he wants. And in this case, getting Myles requires negotiating how he will be used while at Kansas.
In this case, I agree with Myles. He should be cut lose, outside of the post, to create his offense. We should force a square peg in a round hole!
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@drgnslayr don’t hold me to it, I thought he said one of the pluses about KU, was the hi/lo???
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“Asked about KU by Zagsblog.com, Turner said: “I like the high-low system that coach (Bill) Self runs, due to the fact that I can play both the high and the low in that system with Cliff (Alexander) and a couple of other bigs over there. That would be really cool to be a part of.””
That tells me a lot more than the junk we heard yesterday where that Texas article parsed every word from one of Myle’s statements to suggest he showed his hand for going to Austin.
The above statement tells me there has been an in-depth conversation of how he would be utilized at Kansas… and it sounds more like a negotiation. Myles would like to be used more outside…
It sounds like Self is just trying to make sure he knows that at times he will have to be in the low post… like when we have a huge size advantage over our opponent. And in that case, it would raise Myle’s stock more… proving he can play low post ball or play with his face to the basket, including nailing the long ball. If we can sell that style of play to him, we stand to take back some of the advantage we may have lost by just selling him on straight hi/lo with him in the low post.
With Myles focused on Durant’s game, it sort of neutralizes our biggest weapon, Hudy. Durant is proof someone can be a star in the league without having girth.
If I was Self I would still sell Hudy. Sell the idea of strength helping him wherever his game is. What player turns down building strength in his short time in college before going pro?
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@HighEliteMajor Sucker!
No I almost posted too, but really the level of debate over there is of such low quality, and often hostile. It’s very seldom respectful, and usually it is just beating your head against a wall offering up perspectives to people who are too close-minded to even consider an opposing position.
