Lol, saw that on my Facebook page as well and it reaffirms my notion that the Lottery is simply a tax on people who are at bad math… split between 300 million Americans, each would each get $4 and some change. Chances are way better of getting struck by lightning… twice!!
But I do like the chances of our 'jhawks winning the NC this year tho 
@Bwag said:
NBA drafts underclassmen on potential. Not what was contributed to their college team. Fair, reasonable or not…
Much as i don’t like it, that does seem to be the case doesn’t? And if that is true then we might still lose both both Carlton and Cheick, which would totally suck.
I would love to see Wayne go into beast mode, break his career high of 24pts and hang 30 on some unsuspecting team in the coming weeks! Doesn’t take a whole lot of imagination to envision that scenario either.
It is fun to be a jayhawk this year. 
This thread title made me laugh at loud. Man I hope we take them down hard when we play them.
@JRyman said:
Self falling on the grenade technical so Frank wouldn’t get one.
That’s an awesome observation! He said it was his first one 3 years.
Frank didn’t have his best night, but sure showed some cojones when it counted. Love his post game quotes…
“I could play two more overtimes right now,” Mason (15 points, 5-20 shooting) said with a smile.
and
Of the crucial steal on the out of bounds play, Mason said: “Right before the play started the ref told me not to get close to the line. I took a step closer and went all out to deny. I got a deflection and got the steal.
He was well past the 3 feet separation line he should have given Heild, but oh well, he sure got hosed on that clean steal he had earlier too.
What a battle! So proud of those young men last night. Neither team deserved to lose. And we’ll definitely have our work cut out for us when we go to Norman next month.
@BeddieKU23 said:
I get it, Self let them play but when you go 11 deep and can go 11 deep without losing what makes you good, why wouldn’t you give guys a breather.
Hard to knock anyone in this incredible game (well except the refs which I usually don’t do, but dang that was a clean Mason steal), but I sure was scratching my head about that in the OTs myself. Isn’t that what having a deep bench is all about? Having some fresh legs when the other team doesn’t? I guess I’m missing something?.
And I’m probably missing something else here too, but I know that there was person who I really liked starting last night, who also first got us on the board after OU hung a few on us to begin the game, altered some shots and made some nice passes… then got yanked never to be seen again. I know Hunter had some rough plays as well, but what if we had yanked Graham or Mason after some struggles? Yes, yes, that would have been stupid of course, but the point is maybe Hunter might have stayed in a bit longer and positively effected the game more? Maybe he got hurt?
@joeloveshawks I am typically very opposed to Landen playing at all and in favor of Jamari only getting limited minutes but last night certainly made me eat crow. We don’t win without the performance of these two veterans last night.
And again, hard to knock the efforts of those two last night… they both played like men! But I have to admit to thinking that, given a few more of their minutes in the crucible that was cooking last night, would Svi had found more of his 3s (so good to see one go in for him), would Hunter’s nice little shot to get us on board have happened even more and perhaps his height got in peoples face more, would Bragg and Diallo have had more net positives than negatives, would this game even have gone to OT? Not whining at all, just wondering if better basketball minds than me can point out finer points that I likely missed.
But what the heck, nitpicking at stuff like that in a game like that is like saying cotton candy needs a little more sugar… it was pretty dam sweet already!
It is good to be Jayhawk
What a great article, thanks for sharing. I liked one of the comments at the bottom of the article…
"Any other of the local fan bases from around here care to sign up for a Kansas type of season of, “Suffering through a 25-10 season…?”
Not many teams would call winning 25 games playing a tough schedule, in a tough conference (and winning said conference again), “suffering”. It is good to be a Jayhawk basketball fan 
Can’t wait for another home win tomorrow night and relish #1 for a while.
(though I can easily envision the current warm and fuzzy feelings evaporating for the “sky is falling” crowd at the other site coming back out in a hurry if we lose)
@jaybate-1.0 Your initial post in this thread is likely my favorite out of all the ones I’ve read by you. A fine example of what happens when passion, intelligence and good writing meet. Nice work!
Looking forward to many solid showings from him, he’ll probably need at least a few highlight games to get his NBA stock up, hope they come at opportune times and win games for us. It will be nice to have yet another weapon other teams will have to scout and plan for.
And sorry to go a bit off topic, but just saw this little clip of Curry sinking five in a row from half court during warm ups like he was dropping bunnies from five feet… the guy is a machine. How cool would that be to have a play where BG stops at the center court logo and drains one before the defense can even get down and set up?
I had to scroll to the bottom of the list on this Fox Sports takeaways from yesterday to find anything about the 'hawks, (and I did feel a bit nauseous over his long fawning over Kensucky) but I liked how he thinks it’s a given that we win the Big 12 again.
"Bill Self looks primed to continue the most impressive current streak in sports. It is not exactly a headline that Kansas whooped Montana at home by 42 points. It is a headline that the recently suspended Brannen Greene is back, and on Saturday shot 3-of-4 from three. Greene may be the nation’s best 3-point shooter.
Kansas has the third-best 3-point shooting percentage in all of college basketball, hitting threes at a 45.8 percent clip. Now that Cheick Diallo is eligible and Greene is back, this deep, balanced, experienced team doesn’t have a single weakness. Also, this is Self’s fastest-paced team in his Kansas career, which comes as college basketball as a whole is moving toward a speedier tempo. Self is going to win his 12th straight Big 12 title, which is ridiculous. He also might get his second national title, too."
This thread reminded me of my favorite one-liner question to casually throw out to people to show just how kickass our blueblood program is…
“Do you know who the *only *losing coach was in KU’s 100+ years? James Naismith, the inventor of basketball.” Always makes me feel really smug when I get to say that.
For the record:
James Naismith .478
“Phog” Allen .729
William Hamilton .679
Dick Harp .596
Ted Owens .657
Larry Brown .754
Roy Williams .805
Bill Self .820
I learned that in spite of my attempts to have empathy for everyone, I really, really relished Kensucky getting bashed by a team we pounded on recently. Even went to their websites to read about their misery a bit more (but didn’t find many commenters).
Gave me a warm fuzzy feeling and am wishing them many more crushing defeats in the days ahead, one day in late January in particular.
"A small sample size, but Kansas is playing at a much faster rate than any Self team ever has. The Jayhawks are averaging 75.4 possessions per game, per kenpom.com, which is nearly five possessions more than any of Self’s teams ever at Kansas. Pace is up across college basketball, but this start is still an anomaly for KU. The Jayhawks rank 20th in adjusted tempo, and they’ve never ranked in the top 50 under Self.
And Diallo is only going to speed them up.
“Cheick forces a pace that nobody has ever forced here,” Self told the Kansas City Star’s Rustin Dodd this summer. “He can create pace better than any point guard we’ve ever had here. Just because the dude, from rim to rim, he’s as good as I’ve seen. I didn’t say [he’s] the best offensive player, but running rim to rim, I think he’ll drag everybody along with him. I also think it forces us to play at a faster pace when your big guys run like that.”
I like fast.
The full article on Diallo’s impact from Bleacher report is here.
@JRyman As mentioned, I didn’t see the game. And I just pulled the stats from some site this morning when I couldn’t sleep, I obviously got his stats wrong, my bad.
Also, I’m a big Self fan, and happy to have him here. If he says Traylor was the best guy, who am I to disagree. It’s just there’s been a lot of talk around Traylors play lately and when I saw the stats (either incomplete or I misread them completely) it made me scratch my head and hope someone who did watch the game would fill me in. HCBS, and heck just about everybody on these boards knows more about basketball than I do.
My first post of the season and I hosed it up pretty good! Think I’ll go back to just reading now…
Wish I could have watched the game. I saw this clip of Selden’s behind the back pass for
, a dunk even! This combo could be really fun to watch this year.Thought it odd that Self had this to say about who the best player was: “Jamari was the best player in the game tonight and I don’t know if anybody even asked to interview him. He was the best player in the game because he totally changed the second half with his energy”
Traylor - 14 mins, 1-2 FG, 0-2 FT, 0 rebounds, 1 TO, 1 Steal. This is our best player? Huh?
But another big scoring win and a very fine start to a likely AllStar career for Diallo. I’ll take it! Now everybody please stay healthy until late April, okay?
Wow, I log in to read about my favorite sports team and get this. I guess I would have been okay with an expression of horror at the recent events, I echo the emotion… but still that’s not why I come here.
But then when it turned into yay Ronnie, boo Obama partisan politics… IMHO this is absolutely the wrong place to slam the beliefs of our fellow jayhawks regardless of their political leanings.
I can turn on any news media outlet and get that, I come here for the camaraderie of sharing one’s views on college basketball. Take it somewhere else guys, please!
Man, I hope you’re right. The last two years I kept thinking the light was going to go on for him and he would live up to his incredible talent, but all we’ve really gotten are flashes. I’d be ecstatic if he play up to his potential for the whole year.
And not get injured - I hate these injuries late in the season that rob of us our best players and player performances. Jesse N had a column not long ago on how he wonders if it might not be a bad idea if Self took his foot off the accelerator in practice sometimes, as well as during the season. I’m all for toughening up the players, and like to see them leave it all on the floor, but…
I look at the injuries and how worn out we often look near the end of the year (maybe that’s every team tho?). I look at how Wigs seem to hold back on us (which I wasn’t a fan of) but then turned it on and won Rookie of the Year. I watch games where we are 15 points ahead with 2 or 3 minutes left and Mason is still in there grinding away.
Not sure I’m drawing the right conclusion, and don’t know the solution, but dang, I get tired of having our guys so banged up when it comes tournament time. Hopefully being so deep this year will be the difference. Can’t wait for the season to start!
This gave me a chuckle and felt appropriate for this thread…
@ParisHawk said:
I know you, you know me: one thing I can tell you is we got to shoot threes
That’s pretty good
@DoubleDD said:
venture to say look for the winds of change to start chirping if HCBS and next years team don’t make a deep run in the tournament.
Hmmm. Yes,… and while maybe I’ll feel different if we are the only blue blood program not to make it out of the first weekend again next year, right now I feel as if I might start losing a bit of passion myself if we suck in the tourney yet again.
Nothing new for me to add that hasn’t been better said already, but feel the need to say a few words anyways…
Wondering why the tall Hunter, who’s been playing better ball lately didn’t play more when some players didn’t have their A game going.
Liked seeing Lucas start and thought he did a good job.
BG looked lost, again, and really poor on defense.
Seldon was a no show… again.
How many Shocker players were a no show?
Shockers wanted it more and like someone mentioned above, this is as good for them as going to the FF.
Refs put the hurt on us early. Not whining, not the main reason we lost, but definitely a factor in the mix.
Can’t say I’m too surprised at the outcome. Accidentally somehow switched from time lapse DVR delay during halftime to 4 minutes left. At first it was Oh No, then it was, So glad I didn’t have to watch all of the second half.
Disappointed again with an early exit. But liked the stats I saw on some thread here that shows we’re in elite company with 3 sweet 16s in five years, A nice perspective.
A little of the amazing sheen of HCBS is wearing off, but still think he did a great job with what he had to work with, if a bit slow to respond sometimes. Still a hall of famer and no one I’d rather have as our coach.
Glad this board isn’t like the other one, sniping and attacking and sour grapes. Thanks to all the intelligent posters, I’ve learned much about the game reading you all.
Last and certainly not least, I am really, really stoked for how good we are going to be next year. I guess I say that almost every year - tho I didn’t after last year. But I got an unnaturally good feeling for our potential next season.
Take care all.
@jaybate-1.0 said:
AND WHAT EVER ELSE BELCHES AND ROILS UP OUT OF THE BOWELS OF BASKETBALL HELL IN THIS CONFRONTATION
AMEN, says the congregation to pastor Jaybate!
@KUSTEVE said:
maybe coach put the 3 ball away on purpose to sneak it in the NCAA tourney
I would love for that to be true… but do these 3 attmpts/made in the last 3 weeks ring a bell?
Baylor- 3/12
TCU- 0/8
W Va- 0/15
Texas- 1/8
KSU- 2/13
Sure seems more slumpish than planned to me.
But dang, am I glad the slump is over - and what timing! Can’t wait to make it rain more on Sunday and show how we are going to… can’t help myself here… separate the wheat from the chaff!
ack Faylor booted now too! this makes our conference look really bad
Whoa! I know their conference is lame, but jeez, but it makes me a little nervous to play a team that ranks in the top 20 on defense and rebounding and is almost a hundred places above us in FG% in the *first *round.
Ah, screw it. Yea, we’re banged up, but we’re gritty and don’t give up, no way we lose this game. We took our bad tasting, early round medicine last year. Kelly scores 20 to carry us - rawk on, hawks!
Please, please, please, no more surprises like these…
2014 No.10 Stanford def. No. 2 KU, 60-57 (Second round) KU’s 0.826 points per possession ranked as its lowest output of the season. The Jayhawks made just 19 of 58 field goals (33 percent) and also were just 9-for-22 (41 percent) on shots at the rim. Wiggins was held to four points on 1-for-6 shooting and took just three shots in the second half. Kansas had been 0 for 10 from 3-point range for the tournament, seven of the misses against Eastern Kentucky, before Frankamp connected with 3:34 to go in the half.
1997 - No. 4 Arizona def. No. 1 Kansas, 85-82 (Sweet Sixteen) This will likely always remain the greatest Kansas team to not win it all. The Jayhawks didn’t lose to a slouch of an Arizona club, as the Wildcats ultimately won a surprising national title, KU had four starters — Paul Pierce, Scot Pollard, Jacque Vaughn and Raef LaFrentz — who played in the NBA for at least a decade, and they were nearly unbeatable that season. Ask any long-time Kansas fan about that game to this day, and it’s greeted either with a pained sigh or a shake of the head.
2005 - No. 14 Bucknell def. No. 3 Kansas, 64-63 (First Round) No Kansas postseason loss will ever be as shocking as this one, as it was the lowest-seeded team to ever knock the Jayhawks out of the dance. Self, in his second season, lead roughly the same group, that advanced to the Elite Eight just a year earlier.
Please, please, please don’t lose this first game on Friday…
The thing I like about this forum is the knowledge, different perspectives and passion the posters bring.
The other thing I really like is the civility here, so I was a little surprised to see the personal attack and rectum comments above. That stuff seems more suited for the other site I left to come here for. I’d like to think that everyone on this site is intelligent enough to disagree with each without insulting, even if it takes a little restraint and a little extra literary and fact finding effort. Hope I’m not alone on this.
Oops, was just talking about ND beating us if we make it that far while I was writing!
Deleting other post and make that UK, AZ, UVA, and PUKE with UK running the table as I predicted after they mopped the floor with us at the beginning of the season.
Just what I was going to say. Love them both, but it sometimes seemed wigs was holding something back as a hawk. He’s probably the better baller, and holding his own with the big boys, but as a jayhawk, I like oubre better.
another good illustration… we get to the FF hawks merchandise could get hot!
and just for the record… looking back at the seasons… I like Oubre’s performance as a Jayhawk over Wiggins
even Frank had a few that he just put in their hands. but beyond the passing game, i was pretty happy with most everything else
Love this team, but have to admit, it’s the oddest team I can ever recall - we could get bounced in the first round or we might just possibly, somehow, someway, find a way to revenge that ugly beating Kensucky gave us and win the whole shebang. If that happened, it would likely surpass any sporting memory I’ve had in my 50+ years:
watching my normally super quiet dad go completely bonkers while his Steelers pulled off the Immaculate Reception to beat the much hated Raiders
seeing George Brett carry the Royals on his back all the way in '85 against a stacked Cards team. (still love that people here in St Louis still get pissed off when I wear my World Series shirt, though I never do at a Cardinals games now that I like both teams. Yea, yea it was a bad call in 6 I say, but then reply with what about that 11-0 game 7? where was your grit?)
seeing Manning do the same thing for the hawks in '88 (an 11 loss season!) against a stacked OU team. (Watched that game in Kelly’s in Westport, what night that was.)
following the Greatest Show on Turf after I moved to St Louis in '99 when a stockboy carried his team to a Super Bowl win. (I remember my dad saying during a reg season game, Wow they just scored 20 points in the first quarter, and I said they do that all the time - they have to because their defense is so bad!)
the '08 hawks, first beating Roy, then Mario Chalmers 3 pointer against Calipari. Ha!
the many ‘oh crap, all seems lost games’ the Comeback Cardinals of '11 had all post season to win the world series
Yep, these kids could shoot to the top of my list. Heck, just making it out of the first city (coupled of course with our conference ring #11) makes this a banner year.
Regardless of whether they win a single game the rest of the season, these are some good kids, tough kids and a helluva coach that have given me some real enjoyment this year.
Rawk on hawks, rawk on.
@jaybate-1.0 said:
I just started calling it Bad Ball as a little retro allusion
Ahh… and even going farther into that slang etymology, I seem to recall ‘bad’ being shortened from ‘badass’. (Also perhaps an offshoot of 'bad to the bone) Maybe ‘BA Ball’ (or BTB Ball)
Our team sure doesn’t get it done pretty this year, and they sure seemed softer earlier in the year, but wow, we’ve played with some major grittiness.
Loved yesterdays game, except for all those really bad passes. It was nice not to have the opposing team have a chance to beat us in the last couple of minutes for a change.
So glad to see Perry out there, Selden getting it done and BG breaking his slump. Would really enjoy seeing everything come together and blowing out IS today. Then again, maybe a blowout today would have them feeling cocky before the Dance, so it might be better to have another one similar to yesterdays game, strong but still gritty.
I heard it was: Raaah Raaah Reee, kickem in the knee! Raaah Raaah Ruts, kickem in the… other knee!
and
Rickem Rickem, Rackem Ruckem, get that ball and really Fff…ight!
@benshawks08 said:
Why am I talking about next year the day after that amazing game? I have problems
I have the same problem, but it’s kind of a nice one to have. It typically comes at the end of the season after falling short of a FF appearance. But it came early this year for me. Yes I really like watching this team grow up before my eyes, they’ve played some amazing games - and I firmly believe there’s more to come this season. But I just don’t see them going the distance once we get on unfriendly courts (and nearly everyone likes to root for the underdog, so it gets pretty unfriendly out there).
On the other hand, I look at this group coming back next season, nearly intact, Big Dance battle tested, tough, having absorbed more of Self’s system, and simply knowing each others styles and playing habits more, and I think “Good lord we are going to do some major damage next year.”
It’s not going to be pretty for other teams to play a team like we are going to have. Yes a lot can happen, and sports are a fickle thing, I know this. But I still can’t shake the image of this juggernaut, a machine of toughness and athleticism and team-oriented young men, having fun while destroying everything in their path with rains of treys, smothering defense, big bodies crashing the boards and even a decent BB IQ (by today’s standards anyways).
So I’ll hope for the best this year and cheer them as I do every year, but @benshawks08, I’m with you, even after a game like we played this week and with the B12 tourney and the Dance dreams ahead, a piece of me is just chomping at the bit for the start of next season.
@JayHawkFanToo said:
I don’t believe for one second that Coach Self held them back; WVU defenders were glued to KU’s 3 point shooters
Yep, that’s exactly what I saw too. Good D from a good team that was desperate for a win at home after losing 3 straight and not wanting to be swept by a young team on short rest on the road.
I’ve complained here before (and have heard others say it too): "It’s not that we lost so much as the way we lost because of…fill in the blank with things like “no heart” “no energy” “bad this” “bad that”.
Well for me, this was *not *one of those games… Two good teams in the best conference in the US played a game with many late lead changes, dumb plays and great plays. Games like this is part of what makes basketball fun to watch - not just for the blueblood programs like ours but for everyone. Kids playing their hearts out - some rising to the occasion while others don’t. And it all coming down to a bottom of the ninth, goal line stand, game on the line last second shot. This is the beauty and excitement of sports.
There were no technicals, no indisputably multiple terrible calls favoring one team (nobody punched a guy in the head while he was down on the court… man, did you see that in the Seton Hall game??). Two good teams played their hearts out, the desperate home team won on a prayer. No, this is definitely not one of *those *games for me.
Are we the better team? Yes. Should we have won this game? Yes. From the comfort of our instant replay, did we make dozens of mistakes? Yes.
But… Are we still in sole possession of first place in the B12 lead? Yes. Did we all figure earlier in the year we’d lose this game? Yes. Is this team of young men not really dam fun to watch? Yes. Are we going to win the NC next year when this whole group (sans Kelly) returns next year battle tested and we look like Kensucky does this year? Looks pretty good from where I’m sitting
I like how jesse has changed his mind and now likes the good guys tonight. So do I. The mountaineers just seem a bit worn down of late and we seem to be hitting our stride.
Interesting thought and one I sure would love to see happen.
An obvious difference for me is that Withey was a big time volleyballer. So when he blocked shots, unlike most guys who bat the ball up and away, he tended to spike it back down into play. Plus being two inches taller, a longer wingspan and more vertical pop, he holds the advantage there too.
But Withey did take awhile to develop. And younger Lucas at 240 (compared to Withey’s current 235) has a bigger body and isn’t getting pushed around as much under the basket as Jeff used to be at this stage. I especially noticed this during the ISU game when McKay had been dominating us underneath and then Landen came in and really challenged him and for the most part succeeded. And both play for the best coach in modern basketball… so I’ll keep my fingers crossed that you’re right and we have another Withey in the making!
@Crimsonorblue22 said:
would you want your kids to use it
I wonder what happen’s if we rephrase the question… Would you want your kids to drink Pinot Noir knowing the proven med facts? My son was over last weekend and he had a glass with some pasta I made, we all survived okay.
Responsibly and sporadically, I’d have to go with yes.
He has a sweet three that’s been falling with regularity lately and really helping us in tight spots like the one you mention. AND he got to the hoop a few times and drew some contact a few other times which hasn’t been quite as regular as that long stroke has been. Great game from him and hope he keeps it up!
@Lulufulu said:
Lucas seemed to be a pretty good match up inside
I’ve definitely changed my mind about Lucas. Used to cringe when he got the ball and now I’m happy to see him come in. Moving that big body better under the basket, 5 for 5 at the line and even a semi-flop to draw the third foul on Rico which he chuckled about.
Lot’s of guys stepping up Oubre looked smooth, Ellis played strong all game, and Selden started to penetrate more finally. I thought Frank looked kind of beat up again, some bad shot selections, missed FTs and not finding guys open, but offset by some bulldog hustle as usual.
Self getting lots of exposure and love today was nice too.
All in all, nice game with a scrappy, but reliable Faylor.
I have to admit I think the med legal states are full of “patients” for whom regular drugs would work as good or better, and that they are simply jumping thru the legal hoops to acquire an otherwise illegal substance. If they need any drugs at all. And I can’t speak to all illnesses and all the red herrings of pot being better.
I just found it pretty sad that my sick friend got slapped with a felony for growing and using an herbal remedy that made him feel better and was practically free, and then was prescribed by the state a heavy duty, but legal,expensive narcotic. I think it speaks volumes to DoubleDD’s and Dragonslyr’s points about health care being controlled by corporations who do whatever they can to make a profit.
@drgnslayr said:
I believe I have a different perspective from most.
Wow, that was really enjoyable to read, thank you for writing that. I enjoy your basketball posts, but this was impressive. You sound like a really interesting individual,
"because I also believe in natural treatments over synthetic medicine."
True story: a close family friend was diagnosed with MS in his twenties (as an aside, my older sister died of that disease after many years of struggle and it was a passing I would not wish on anyone or anything). After trying many medicines, he found the most effective (and with the least side effects) was pot. He grew some plants and one day was followed to his home after buying some organic fertilizer and arrested, No record of any kind, played college ball, good job, house in Johnson county, wife and infant daughter. Was given a felony charge. The best part of the story was that the state of Kansas gave him a highly addictive, high dose, opiate-based, prescription drug to use instead of a mild plant he grew for himself. That is just wrong on so many levels it boggles the mind.
@ralster said:
Lets give the surgeon a bunch of totes off a joint before he operates on your kids
So by this logic we should outlaw alcohol as well? Prohibition proved to be a silly idea. Sorry this part of your argument just doesn’t hold water for me. That kind of logic reminds me of some “stark” facts about another “deadly” substance…
Fact - Fully 100% of people exposed to water will die. Fact - Over-consumption of water can cause death Fact - Water is one of the main ingredients in all pesticides and herbicides
Taking things to extremes is often not a wise course of action.
You continued with how this nonsense “erodes this nations ideals and values”. Nations are organic, growing things shared by an incredibly diverse range of citizens. Imposing your take on this countries values may not be the strongest idea you’ve posted here. I can’t speak for the other 318 million people in this great country, but I’d wager there are a fair amount that have other takes than yours on this nation’s ideals and values.
I’m not going to weigh in on the decision faced by KU athletic department on this, in my opinion it’s a sad lose/lose affair. But reading your 5th well-written, well-intentioned, but offbase, posts in this thread stirred me from my usually silent readings here.
Substitute wine for pot in that argument “Lets give the surgeon a bunch of Pinot Grigios before he operates on your kids emergency appendicitis, eh?” Yes, you make a strong case for responsible use of intoxicants. But to use narrow logic to make a case for banning something that millions and millions of people take occasional joy in and hundreds of thousands use to relieve some of their suffering, just struck me wrong.
I respect your basketball posts, and even more your right to your opinion.
And I too am allowed to have an opinion… and mine is that your attempt at having a “free mind” while trying desperately to convince others here on the evils of pot may not belong on a forum for KU basketball.
@drgnslayr Nice call! So you takin us all out for drinks with your winnings now?
For me it’s not about the glass being half full or half empty, it’s about who is paying for the next round!
And speaking of the next round, I see us winning the B12, but not doing so great at the Dance.
But next year… dang, watch out, because this team is going to kick some serious booty when we get these guys (sans Oubre) back. I just may have to take a out a nice fat pre-season Vegas bet on our Hawks winning the NC next year, and I’m not much of a betting man either.
But I would love to be surprised this year… I love good surprises
KU by 3 in OT, and last second 3pt which prevents second OT is by game mvp, Greene.