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Seriously now.

mayjay said:

@jaybate-1.0 Point of clarification for my edification: What do you mean by “reputedly”? I always thought it means something generally believed (“reputation”) but it seems that many of the things you describe as “reputedly” are not necessarily accepted as facts by many people. Sometimes it is a fact or a theory I have never heard before from anyone. I cannot tell if your use means you, yourself, believe it, or if you are saying someone believes it.

In either case, it often serves as an assumption underlying something contentious that generates lots of comments. Are we arguing about something, or nothing, that you are actually positing as a fact or theory?

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I am sorry. I don’t feel I know how to edify you in this situation.

But your post appears like you might be projecting maybe a little about contentiousness. Have you considered that possibility?

Also, have you considered not reading my posts at all? This is always an expedient option. If I understand your post correctly, if I were confronted with such an alias as you appear to characterize, my speculation is my inclination might be not to read such an alias and instead read others that I found more edifying and that I did not possibly appear to project my own contentiousness onto.

Either way, we can both look forward to the start of this coming season, since it appears increasingly unlikely with each clock tick that sanctions will befall our beloved program before the season starts, right?

Rock Chalk!

Svi is a player!!!

I just hope UKRAINE doesn’t get to politically or militarily hot in coming months.

Sooner or later each season Bill Self calls attention to the teams way of playing with a phrase like “that’s not who we are.”

Shortly after the team starts playing much closer to “who we are.”

Who will this year’s team be?

Inside out?

Outside in?

Half court grind?

Transition?

Lock down and rebound?

Play to win the disruption stat?

Pressure outside?

Pressure inside?

Or will Bill innovate something we haven’t seen?

Expectations seem to have been evolving over the off season.

Just taking the current pulse of board s now that it appears unlikely a regulatory catstrophe will manifest before Self rolls out the balls.

@KUSTEVE

The History Channel often reminds me of a quote by George Orwell.

“Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past.” George Orwell, 1984

So: Who controls the history channel?

HAPPY Friday!

Let there be basketball shortly.

Alien stories = the Deep State distracting again?

Alien stories appear part of a Tao of Destabilization.

Booga booga!!!

approxinfinity said:

@jaybate-1.0 today, the Alamodome; tomorrow, Beijing National Stadium!

There is a reason we are fitfully diversifying into electric cars and solar electricity generation, and climate change, which I affirm rather than deny, is not the crucial driver of the change.

The Straits of Malacca, the Shanghai Security Pact, the Trans Eurasian Super Corridors and the ability of the pact members to shut off our oil flow through the Straits of Malacca at any second drive the change—THAT drives why Teslas and the Chevy Bolt exist—probably the only reason.

America is a sitting duck energy wise until it has sufficient electric conversion to ride out it’s Mid East oil being cut off in the Straits of Malacca! It has to use coal to generate a big part of that electricity.

And USA will be a sitting duck till it either agrees to share global central bank ownership with the Pact members, or alternatively until USA/GB/Israel divide and conquer Russia and Iran first, and second contain China for half a century.

If we slide into nuclear war, however, it’s curtains for us all.

Happy Friday!

Kcmatt7 said:

Lol yea the only way to keep corruption out of it is to take all the money out of it.

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Only naives expect to take all the corruption out of ANYTHING. Complete elimination of corruption appears a silly notion for someone like you to even mention.

The realistic question seems to be: how soon can we expect authorities to get on with cleaning it up as much as is feasible?

Do you have any insight to share?

17 year olds are so very young.

Isn’t there something that can be done to curb the supply of temptation reputedly being offered them now?

Are college basketball authorities and adult America and so helplessly impotent that there is nothing to be done but put the onus on 17 year olds to clean up this money making system?

Something fittingly done would be better than nothing done, wouldn’t it?

Or have you grown hopeless about looking out for our youth?

I am not chastising you, or judging you.

I am seriously asking.

justanotherfan said:

As long as college athletics, specifically football and basketball, are big money industries, there will be corruption.

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Whether intended, or not, your response captures a core issue without referring to it.

Not trying to put words in your mouth, or suggest that you actually think in the ways your comment seemed to open up. So what follows just uses your response as a spring board into the issue.

Assuming corruption can never fully be eradicated for reason A (big money in this case), and the system corruption feeds on parasitically is also asymmetrically benefitting a group of persons widely reputed to need extra help (many poor African Americans trying to climb out of poverty by playing and coaching and reporting on college basketball , the apparent reasoning emerges as: shouldn’t we just sacrifice a few of the needy group to said corruption to get the benefits that the paracitized system is yielding for the rest of the needy group? Essentially this line of thought rationalizes preying on 17 year olds as a tolerable cost shifting on a few to get the net benefit for the many, at the same time it asserts inevitability.

It’s reasonable to note here that most forms of human inequality (aka asymmetry) are based on assuming this sort of moral and cost/benefit calculus.

Sometimes the corruption is petty and it’s cost seems rather tolerable. Other times it is vicious and cruel and triggers a desire in us to stop as much and the worst of it, as possible, knowing it’s unlikely we can stop it all

Car thieves and the guys that part out the stolen cars actually create a supply of cheap OEM parts for the poor and young and indirectly enable the OEM to keep their original prices high and discourage competitors selling substandard parts for cheap. Insurance enables the system to a point. No one can hope to stomp out the corruption of theft and parts rings, so those benefitting, especially those with incomes dependent on the corrupt system, say, as long as there is big money, there will be corruption and shrug.

Heck, Humans have sickened and killed some other groups of humans in medical research to get health benefits for the many. We have never fully been able to eradicate either the exploitation in drug research, nor the occasional Dr. Mengele’s at the extreme either, so we make use of the research of lunatic butchers, as well as more or less decent researchers practicing on the unfortunate. We can’t eliminate corruption, because of big money, some think. And shrug. Anti-depressants trigger some suicides, but hopefully prevent more and make a lot of managers and investors rich, so why not benefit from it? Look away.

Cigarettes reduced stress until one symptomized cancer and lung disease. But it was good for magazines and TV which brought us our sports, that we distracted ourselves with even as our loved ones slowly agonizingly died of lung cancer and oxygen deprivation. Look away. Work in advertising and climb out of poverty. There is big money in smoking, so there will always be corruption.

Humans have also enslaved some of us to get the net benefits of forced, uncompensated labor for the many. British mill owners and financiers, not just Irish-American plantation owners and New York and Baltimore financiers and slave traders , benefitted well from slightly malaria resistant African slaves laboring unsalaried on Southern USA plantations. Indentured English workers for two centuries expedited early agriculture and manufacturing for colonial settlers. African tribal social orders of inheritance were stabilized by selling African children to middle eastern slave traders and other African tribes before white slavers ever showed up. And so on.

Clean up may never prevail over Corruption; that is how it tends to go in religion, politics, intelligence, economies, and even in Vice itself. Vice Thieves routinely cost shift onto other vice thieves, after all.

Thus the real issue seems not whether corruption will exist, as you asserted, but how much of it are we willing to avert our eyes to? What limit do we put on it, knowing some good persons will need to be helped, so they do not bear unfairly the cost of driving down some of the corruption?

With the above as prologue, there appears another nagging problem with your assertion that I mention precisely because I suspect a person of your intelligence will be able to explain: it does not take into account the corruption that has been documented in college basketball to pre-exist the arrival of big monies in amateur college basketball.

The earliest days of the game saw part of it staged as an amateur recreation in YMCAs, while another part was staged as big city entertainment. Burlesque and fight promoters staged games and tournaments and eventually professional leagues, as entertainments as much to encourage gambling, as ticket revenues. Amateur college basketball got drawn into “entertainment” very early on. It has been a goose laying a golden gambling egg for a very long time. Phog Allen complained openly about the game’s compromise by gambling well before the NCAA formed and hoped the NCAA would help reduce the corruption by gambling.

What is it about amateur college basketball that predisposes it to so much corruption that among other things traffics in so much temptation being offered to 17 year olds?

It’s not a simple answer at all IMHO.

There is astronomical money involved in the education of ordinary students. Amateur college basketball is a tiny sliver of KU’s annual $1 Billion plus budget, but the REPUTED near systematic corruption that tempts ordinary students is reputedly vastly less.

I would hypothesize that because the stakes are so high for university budget money (i.e., the monies streams are so huge related to research pork and ordinary students fees and federal education subsidies) that controls have long since been put in place to limit the corrupt temptation by low life’s of the vast numbers of students to keep the vast monies valved to the university officials, not the lesser elements of our culture. Universitiy officials are hardly saints, of course. They have entered into the racket of financialization with banksters to overcharge for educational services and books, so as to leave many young persons essentially indentured debt slaves for a time after college, but even such debt slavery hardly equates with tempting 17 year olds with prostitution, drugs, under the table cash, cars, clothes, home mortgages, and informal agent relationships, plus the physical wear and tear of the sport and the reputed “under-education” of athletes, does it? There are degrees of corruption to be chosen, aren’t there?

In contradistinction, so much of the monies of sports are quietly seemingly inextricably interwoven with TV, gaming and petrowear revenues that the school officials apparently could not find a feasible way to control so they apparently effectively cut loose of college sports in a number of ways in exchange for a relatively minor cut of the gaming and petrowear action, and in effect looked away and threw 17 year olds to the mercy of reputedly some pretty low forms of human predators.

What is it about our beloved game of amateur college basketball that has drawn it into a web of reputed corruption since BEFORE the big money came on the scene.

My hypothesis is the most rudimentary of starts. Probably hopelessly incomplete.

I hope you will take the time to contemplate the issue, so that maybe the reputed corruption can be pushed back at least a little down the road.

17 year olds are so very young.

@approxinfinity

When thinking about Trump and part of the Pentagon vs the Private Central Bank controller’s Deep State’s with its Siamese NEOCON/NEOLIB REPUBLICRATS, board rats need to remember that Abraham Lincoln was resisted, vilified and subverted from the moment he took office and tried to broker a deal among the three axes of private oligarchy seeking to control the building of the transcontinental railroad and telegraph network that was THE crucial issue that the US Civil War was fought to resolve. Lincoln was hated in north and south until Sherman cut the South in two and Grant savagely put Robert Lee in a vice he could never escape from and so should have surrendered to the North not more than 1 month after Sherman reached the sea.

But even when the war’s outcome was no longer in doubt, Lincoln was vilified and subverted by the private oligarchies of north and south.

Even in the election of 1864, when the war’s outcome was largely decided, the interests in Baltimore and New York ran General McClelland, whom Lincoln had fired, against Lincoln in hopes McClelland would agree to a peace with the Confederacy that would result in the transcontinental RR and telegraph being controlled by the New York, Baltimore and Confederate interests.

Succession, Slavery, emancipation and tariffs were all just bargaining chips in the Grand game of controlling global maritime trade passing through the Western Hemisphere.

War was waged to decide who would be the hegemond of communication and transportation of global trade through the Western Hemisphere.

Even after victory at war he was assassinated to stabilize the hegemony of the surviving private oligarchy after the war. The last thing any of the surviving axes of private oligarchy wanted was a President with the largest standing army in the world, and a navy large enough to blockade the entire Atlantic and Caribbean coast of USA from the Great Powers of Europe, and able to use the great Army and Navy to impose government of the people, by the people and for the people on his own domestic private oligarchy. He was assassinated, of course.

Trump appears in a somewhat similar position and apparently knew it going in. It was probably partly why he agreed to run. He, like many, understood the epic moment in which we live. He told everyone as much in front of the Lincoln Memorial the day before Inauguration Day. He was elected to broker a deal among at least two and likely 4 axes of private oligarchy to decide which of them get to wage cold and hot war to try to take over Trans Eurasian communication, transportation and energy. The game is about control of global trade through the eastern hemisphere.

Corruption at the national level is just a bargaining chip, same as jobs, taxes, abortion, pot, gun control, terror, pedo rings, MeToo, fake Russia Collusion, fake dirty dossier, and impeachment are just chips. This is about winning the right to wage cold and hot war to control eastern hemisphere trade! No side will ever rest until the outcome of who is the new hegemond is decided. The eventual hegemony won’t be Trump any more than it wasn’t Lincoln. The President merely brokers these deals. And if he gets too powerful, he is assassinated. Such brokering has happened a number of times in USA history. It is happening now. They don’t always get assassinated. It depends on how much power flows to them—how much risk they pose to the private oligarchy.

What can happen regarding cleaning up corruption at the local level of murder crazy Chicago, or in amateur sort, or in college basketball depends on whether these can be used as playable chips in the Grand game for political advantage in the brokering of trade through Asia.

I can’t tell yet.

But strategists high up in the food chain have probably had a pretty good idea for awhile.

Rock Chalk!

(Note: all of the above is just opining by an ordinary American and basketball fan, who reads history, loves his country, and watches from afar with no insider information or agenda to grind.)

@approxinfinity

Let there be light!

Alas, politics is often the art of the corrupt finding the path that requires the fewest of their fellow weasels that must be sacrificed to appease those seeking justice.

When?

It still hasn’t been cleaned up since College Sports, Inc., (1990) and Sole Influence (2000) were written, has it?

Or did I miss the clean-up?

Let TAM alone.

Once the Bushes and Clintons run Trump, they can focus on making Tayhoss great again in football!

@KUSTEVE

Yes

@justanotherfan

Yes.

“American football seems to resemble soccer in that one scores by putting the ball through the opponent’s goal; but football, truly is about land. The Settlers want to move the line of scrimmage Westward, the Native Americans want to move it East.”

—David Mamet

approxinfinity said:

@jaybate-1-0 I just found this guy on the interwebs, inspired by your post. https://www.huffingtonpost.com/author/frank-breslin

Frank Breslin is a retired high-school teacher with 40 years of experience in the New Jersey public school system, where he taught English, Latin, German, and social studies.

Now I am well aware that huffingtonpost can veer wildly left in their stories. This guy appears to have been given wide berth and is apolitical in what I’ve read; so far so good. In particular, I plan to read the following, having read the first and a browsed a handful of others (you’ll see them if you scroll down)

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Thx for sharing the link. I hope persons will read much about this issue. There are many facets to it that relate to the current situation.

JayHawkFanToo said:

jaybate 1.0 said:

JayHawkFanToo said:

@approxinfinity

The video is widely available and the lines were taken verbatim; you can always find it and verify…maybe Jaybate can help you with that.

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Nope.

So, you did not check this >>> LINK <<< I suggested?

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Why would one “check” an unexplained link to an unstated source?

Rock Chalk!

JayHawkFanToo said:

@approxinfinity

The video is widely available and the lines were taken verbatim; you can always find it and verify…maybe Jaybate can help you with that.

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Nope.

approxinfinity said:

I may even see the situation the same way. But I don’t want to be fed an opinion.

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OPININION FEEDING might be a good name for it. It appears one of many trickle down techniques from intelligence propaganda and psy-ops techniques that have apparently been used so much that many ordinary persons appear essentially conditioned to think its a valid form of logical assertion. They appear to both engage in it as a means of persuasion and also accept it as a means of persuasion.

It’s quite bizarre really.

It is essentially “stove piping” edited hooey to anyone gullible enough to accept it and couching it in a fallacy of an argument premised on an appeal to authority.

There appears a reason why logic was stripped from much education.

Once the American public was reputedly systematically dumbed down with apparently intentionally de-logic-ed by education technique, and since 9/11, near 24/7 MSM propaganda, this sort of use of edited reality and appeal to authority as “explanation” is much easier to pass off as a truth.

And since it’s done by talking heads on the MSM endlessly it’s virtually normalized and in time mindlessly imitated by many.

It has been fascinating to watch it unfold in an unfortunately apparently controlled way during my life time.

But humanity is resilient and will get beyond it somehow.

Come in @Texas-Hawk-10…do you read me?

I seem to have lost radio contact with you regarding the last transmission regarding chain of command from Girod to Long to Beaty and a possible firing of Beaty. Control tower will retransmit…

Does Girod have the authority to fire Long, who has the authority to fire Beaty? Or does Long not even have the authority to fire Beaty?

What is the actual chain of command?

Over.

approxinfinity said:

@jaybate-1.0 Ron Artest is your most recent comp though, and that was 14 years ago. Also, I’m pretty sure if a tennis player jumped into the stands and beat a fan they’d be banned for life, even in 2004.

Yeah, I didn’t try to get contempo, because the country seems to have PRed a lot of aggression out of the public eye the last 15 years. Until the Me Too and Pedo stuff the last year, the PR guys had pretty well convinced people these assholes running movie studios and networks etc. had gotten the message of our culture wanting some more civility, but NOooooooooo.

People don’t seem to understand that we are living in a huge PR and mind control matrix more than a media-high matrix. Media and high tech are just the delivery and interface systems. PR and Mind Control are “how” they they operate on us.

My hunch is Serena has acted this way many times (she’s human after all), but her willingness to get political has changed the ability of her handlers to conceal it. It used to be there was enough money to be made airbrushing her outbursts. Now there are players that stand to make hay in the mid terms by outing her outbursts.

I was writing previously about a long term tendency to view women’s outbursts as “emotion” and a more recent socially engineered repackage women’s outbursts as aggression. As a social engineering strategist trying to break down the social order that private oligarchy, as a tiny minority of, is so fearful of self organizing against the private oligarchy, you might logically among other things take a crack at repackaging women’s gender roles and anger outbursts from “emoting” to “aggression” to attempt to break down gender roles and perceptions of team into victim and victimizer to break down the legacy order that perhaps obstructs private oligarchic agendas in this or that situation.

Hence, we have women super heroes and now ordinary women protagonists in movies and TV running around routinely kicking men’s asses, etc. We saw the same thing done to male protagonists the last half of the 20th Century. The hero evolves from a reasonable, law abiding pillar of a just order to an alienated, victim engaging in vigilante acts essentially indistinguishable from villains, but for the ends used as justification of the means. We have substituted Kill Bill and others for Charles Bronson’s and Clint Eastwood’s revengers. Many applaud this as “progress” for women, and it is in one way, same as Django Unchained is progress for blacks. Blacks and women now get to behave onfilm as abominably as white Jewish men and white Christian men have. It’s only entertainment, right? Only the truly naive believe that media entertainment has no weaponized dimension. Basically, if any group will consent to be a victim pitted against an “other” OTHER THAN the actual private oligarchy, then it gets the virtual fantasy freedom to sadistically slaughter “evil doers” portrayed as oppressive to its victim group, and NOT organize with fellow human beings to bring fair pursuit of life, liberty and freedom for all, as well as NOT requiring the recently rapacious private oligarchy to re-subordinate to the US Constitution.

To stay unsubordinated from the constitution, the private oligarchy more or less HAS to find and exploit various divisive ways to break down among other things the old male-female roles to keep women and men from standing together and bottom-up organizing to resist the more inequitable and anti-Democratic aspects of the private oligarchy’s preferred NWO agenda. It’s simple really. There were bad aspects of the legacy order of men’s and women’s roles. Emphasize those bad aspects in controlled politics and controlled media; then incentivize anyone willing to break them down without replacing them with a new vision of men and women working together to re-subordinate the private oligarchy to the constitution and rule of law and separation of powers.

The 1 % has to divide (and keep divided) the 99% to not be stopped in pursuit of their agendas injurious to the 99%, or worse subjected to due process, or perhaps worse still, be hung by angry mobs as has happened so many times in history.

Divide and conquer is hardly new to war and politics. Sadly, it seems more a rule than an exception. Read British strategist Halford MacKinder’s recipe for western strategy in Eurasia and you will quickly appreciate the legacy of this strategic approach. But I digress.

Serena, regardless of the great person and athlete that she appears to be, seems useful as a media symbol to different axes of private oligarchy apparently fighting for control of the seemingly inexorable transformation of the USA order in this context of apparent systematic divide and conquer strategy.

But because she can be used as brand symbol to help break down old orders, her brand symbol can also be weaponized by others as another kind of brand symbol to redirect this break down of old orders in other directions she might not wish or intend.

The great movie director Elia Kazan got caught in this sort of predicament (loyal American smeared as a communist in youth at a time that meant black listing in Hollywood, then counter smeared for naming names because he had come to oppose communism) and it finally destroyed his brilliant career. TPTB will apparently gladly destroy great performers, in most any field, if it will further a private oligarchic agenda.

I feel bad for Serena, because she is attempting to use her brand symbol in service of her political values—a honorable thing for a free American to do, but she is learning she has very little control over her brand symbol once persons interested in appropriating and destroying it start in on her.

This is the current terrible double edge of PR (dating back to the early 20th Century work of Edward Bernays) and Mind Control (dating back at least to KOREAN WAR war “brainwashing” of American POWs by North Koreans reputedly trained by USSR and Red Chinese operatives using some nasty techniques likely earlier developed by Nazis, perhaps even secretly by Brits and American researchers). There have reputedly been great strides made in mind control the last half century or so and some of the advances have reputedly trickled down into use in our country. It appears a particularly risky time for abuse of mind control techniques many places in the world and USA appears no exception.

Hence, when you alone are paying to shape the brand symbol, it is great. But when someone else starts paying to shape it, it can quickly and powerfully spin out of your control.

To master the obvious, Serena is a great talent. Like many unprecedentedly great athletes, she reawakens in us all the great potential of human beings. She brings hope simply by playing to the best of her very great abilities. Some are model persons, others not. She seems pretty darned decent to me from the remote outside looking in. I hope she can overcome this problem in her path.

But many great talents never survive this sort of situation. For every Ali that prevailed in a serious PR-mind control war over his/her brand symbol, there seem to be far more Elia Kazans and Orson Welles that cannot ever regain control of their careers. Heck, General Douglas MacArthur got on the wrong side of the brand symbol warfare machine and even one our wiliest military strategists got hopelessly outmaneuvered by it.

Good luck, Serena.

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@Lulufulu

Don’t worry. I was being tongue in cheek to those obsessing on ramping up KU football.

@Texas-Hawk-10

KU Football seems to indicate cutting costs to the bone makes a not for profit sport very profitable, er, surplus-able with effectively no significant risk from not winning big. No one has to cheat, or do any of the questionable stuff to field a losing team. It’s just pure surplus with no risk.

Look at KU Basketball. It’s reputedly under investigation by FBI/DOJ. The coach and players are under incredible pressure to win rings. Self is taking chances on guys like Selby, Alexander, Diallo, Preston and now DaSousa.

What will happen if KU BASKETBALLgets caught cheating while harnessed to this huge overhead? What if Self infarcts from the pressure? What if some bad guys insinuate themselves into KUAD and run another scalpinggate with basketball involvement?

What if the program suddenly stops winning and the overhead can’t be covered?

In KU football they can lose for eternity and the big surplus keeps rolling in because they have cut costs to the none.

But basketball HAS to win or else!

People want to ramp KU FOOTBALL up because they are worried about it generating only 50% capacity on revenue. BUT if it’s all about the money, then it’s better in a not for profit to minimize risk and never have to worry about losing and deficits that threaten the minor sports.

How important is winning? Is it important enough to jeopardize funding for the minor sports? Is it important enough to risk insolvency and corruption?

Silvio will be our best big man by seasons end, if allowed to play. He is a monster talent.

Serena’s big problem is avoiding becoming Sonny Liston to Osaka’s Cassius Clay (later and better known as Ali)

Charles Barkley reputedly spit on a little girl.

Ron Behagen reputedly beat Luke Witte to a bloody pulp.

Ron Artest reputedly went up into the stands to assault a fan.

What Serena did is nothing!!

John McEnroe and Jimmy Connors in tennis and Billy Martin and Earl Weaver literally built careers and fortunes on being dicks to umpires and refs.

Serena seems the first woman with the kind of physical strength and presence typical of most great male athletes.

When Serena gets mad, apparently folks don’t think of her as a “angry bitch.” They think of her as an “angry man with a front hole, “ as is the latest politically correct term for vagina.

I think it’s great she took on the refs, like a man, because she plays tennis like a man IMHO. THAT’S A COMPLIMENT, Serena!!!

I also hope she gets fined like a man and gets some grief for her uncivil outburst, the way Connors, McEnroe and Nastasi used to (though they never got enough IMHO).

Serena has proven women exist that can take women’s sports to the next physical level. It’s only logical that she would take competitiveness to the next level psychologically and emotionally.

She is a pioneer of physical, emotional and psychological competitiveness and the frontier in sports always includes physical, emotional and psychological intimidation of opposing players and refs.

It ain’t pretty in women, and it ain’t handsome in men. It’s ugly and vulgar in both.

But competitive sport is about using all the advantages available to win.

She was apparently doing that show of intimidation for the next contest.

I just hope she has to pay the piper for doing it, same as I wish for Coach K to pay the piper when he appears to coach XTREme Cheap Shotting or snarls at a red. Heck most men’s basketball coaches appear to verbally abuse refs each game than Serena appeared to do in her match!

But life isn’t fair and sometimes persons that cross the line don’t get justice.

How much justice Serena gets will likely depend on how crucial she is to the profitability of women’s professional tennis. That’s how it has always worked in men’s sports.

Ty Cobb was pretty important to baseball. He never got much justice for filing his cleats into weapons for second base slides.

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Even Superman had problems with Kryptonite. The NBA is full of Kryptonite.

Go, Frank, go!!!

One of the biggest problems of western net-benefit based economics has always been the lack of reliable accounting for dishonesty and cost shifting in both accounting models and regulation. No one has EVER come up with a sound way to compare levels of regulation, because the comparisons never are indexed for variation in cheating and cost shifting. As a result, both quantitative and qualitative assertions about levels of regulation are unreliable and frankly naive.

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@JayHawkFanToo

If anyone were taking orders in this relationship, it would be you.

Now get down and give me 50, Niedermeyer!!

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P.S.: Urban Meyer could not have coached this KU roster to a road win over CMU at Mount Pleasant!!

Not Dabo Swinney!

Not Jimbo Fisher.

Nick Saban probably could have.

Vince Lombardi yes.

But not Joe Paterno.

Knute Rockne. Yes.

But no other B12 coach.

Beaty has done a very good job.

The wins will come next season.

Beaty just winning at Mount Pleasant has earned him at least two more seasons.

Beaty has proven phenomenal resilience under an awesome onslaught of special interests seeking to boot him out so each special interest group can get “its guy” the HC job.

I am 100% behind Coach Beaty.

Coach Beaty is a pillar of strength in this tempest of unrealistic expectations placed on him.

Even if I did not think keeping Coach Beaty would be a net benefit for KU Basketball, I would strongly support giving him a rolling 5 year contract to discourage the special interests from preying on Coach Beaty and trying to get him fired.

Rock Chalk!!!

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wissox said:

Alexander, or his own parents, cooked his own goose.

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That’s one way to view it. I suppose one can justify holding young and old persons inexperienced with a system with a long history of reputed corruption as responsible for giving into the temptation of that corruption. But when does one clean up the corruption that recurringly tempts the inexperienced?

I recall persons similarly blaming the young prize fighters that succumbed to temptation by the ubiquitous corruption in the fight game back in the 1960s. They and prize fighting leaders reputedly kept blaming the fighters until there was little left of the sport of boxing, but the corruption. I didn’t find the logic adequate the with prize fighting. It appears inadequate now regarding college basketball.

Bottom line: if fans don’t want basketball to go the way of boxing, they need to move beyond just assigning blame to the inexperienced young and old giving into temptation by the recurrent possibly systemic corruption.

The game apparently needs cleaning up.

JayHawkFanToo said:

jaybate 1.0 said:

After what has happened to Selby, Alexander, Diablo, and Preston, just at KU, it seems like fans ought to mentally prepare—maybe even predictively program—themselves for which will be the five most talented players squandered by what increasingly appears a morally bankrupt eligibility process.

Why do you call it a morally bankrupt eligibility process? The rules are clearly spelled and all the players that follow the rules (which is the great majority) go through the process without any issues. The process is in place to make sure all school are on a level playing field. Players (or their families/guardians) that don’t follow the rules have no one to blame but themselves.

Now…who is this “Diablo” player you speak of? Isn’t he a natural candidate for the Duke Blue “Devils” or Kentucky, since Calipari likely already has a pact with him? I prefer we take someone like Jesus Shuttlesworth.

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Be my guest. Enjoy defending the virtues of this conveyor belt system!!!

Howling!!!

JayHawkFanToo said:

@jaybate-1.0

The demolition industry is one of the more heavily regulated businesses and federal law requires that all asbestos must be removed prior to demolition/implosion.

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You don’t say.

Please define your criterion of level of regulation and then…

Name 6 “businesses” that are more regulated.

Name 6 “businesses” that are less regulated.

Name 6 “businesses” that are regulated about the same.

Howling!!!

P.S.: How many persons exposed to asbestos fibers and other carcinogenic dust released by the controlled demo watching the McCollum take down and living near by will likely die prematurely? Will any die prematurely? I wish I knew. Does anyone? Were all the materials potentially toxic to human beings removed from the building and site? Does anyone reliably claim they actually, definitively even know for certain what all was in the building and site that could later sicken persons exposed to the dust cloud caused by the controlled demolition?

After watching that video, which I have not investigated the authenticity of, I recalled all the claims of sickness by the emergency responders and the by standers afterwards.

There is something about human beings attracted to positions of authority that just inherently cannot resist risking costshifting onto the innocent, even when they are trying to do some good.

@DanR

Very cool video.

Man am I glad they decided to finally take Baja Cabrini Green aka Pruit Eye Gore West aka corbu’s prairie Eryth housing down!!!

Neat visual monuments aren’t the same as good housing.

Do you think the same outfit used to take down WTC VII was used to take down McCollum Hall?

Just kidding!

But it remains eerie how similar controlled demolitions like the video you posted, and other videos of controlled demolitions, look like the video of WTC VII collapsing, and to some degree to the collapses of WTC I and WTC II.

After what has happened to Selby, Alexander, Diallo, and Preston, just at KU, it seems like fans ought to mentally prepare—maybe even predictively program—themselves for which will be the five most talented players squandered by what increasingly appears a morally bankrupt eligibility process.

mayjay said:

@jaybate-1.0 So far, Billy hasn’t even scored this season.

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You mean BP hasn’t even taken a charge for Canton in the NBA Gatorbait Intramural League?

You mean they don’t develop year round in Gatorbait Intramurals? No wait! It’s called the Gatorade League, right?

He OUGHT to play a little, when they finally roll the synthetic rubber balls out, since the wiki roster I glanced at only shows 5 players and BP is the only guy over 6-5.

TALK ABOUT A GREAT OPPORTUNITY! (Sarcasm font)

And Billy is finally going to get to really learn the game from a former Kent Stater and British pro. (Sarcasm font)

Lucky Billy! (Sarcasm font)

Billy got some terrific career advice! (Sarcasm font)

It appears tragic what happened to BP.

The summer-game-to-College-to-Pro basketball conveyor belt just keeps getting more like the fight game all the time.

@Crimsonorblue22

So you are citing all these anecdotal cases like KU throwers. Are you saying KU minor sports are being mischaracterized when referred to as not as successful as KSU, or OSU, or ISU?

@JayHawkFanToo

Is it Goofball not for profit accounting of athletic departments in universities that reputedly makes football appear “profitable” to you?

Oh, and it’s surplus, not profit.

Capice?

@justanotherfan

Thanks for weighing in. It seems like you have made an excellent argument for not worrying about KU’s minor sports performance. They are doing about what they should given the population base and lack of revenue generation.

JayHawkFanToo said:

@jaybate-1.0

You are still clueless. Basketball is pretty much maxed out in term of revenue while the football team can increase revenues manyfold with a good program.

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You WERE born yesterday.

Your unsupported, magical assertions about KU basketball revenues are NOT persuasive.

KU Basketball revenues are maxed out?

That’s so thought-free!

KU could easily build a 50-100k seat basketball arena of the kind the NCAA Carney uses and charge double what is charged now per seat and charge corporations 5-10 times times more per corporate boxes on 10 maybe 30 times the boxes for KU basketball. Pay per view could be jacked way up. Hell, they could have the silly, pathetic, brain damaging football team play in the same arena.

No wait: let me borrow your hackneyed rhetoric, so you will understand: You are clueless.

KU apparently exploits its hapless football program and archaic stadium, so as not to have to make the changes in KU basketball I described above.

It’s an internal subsidy, don’t you get it?

But of course KU BASKETBALL revenues are ripe for much further “development.”

Next.

KU football reputedly runs a big accounting surplus, despite fielding hapless losers most years. KU Football spends far less per football player than does KU BASKETBALL on its players. Is it time for KU to turn its basketball program into a hapless loser and spend far less per hoops player, so it has more accounting surplus to give to minor sports, too?

Given the football surpluses used to heavily subsidize minor sports, why are KU’s minor sports so reputedly bad relative to other school’s minor sports? Are they really worse than most other schools’ minor sports programs? If they were much worse, and if no one but participants cares much about minor sports, would their lack of winning necessarily be a bad thing?

Thoughtful comments will be appreciated?

Is there an expense item for a sinking fund to cover class action suits for the possibility (probability?) of early onset brain damage in the later lives of all football players?