Doods a stud…nuff said! he’s the anti-wiggins and i predict he will deliver us to the promise land in April.

did the game actually happen? Seriously, there is pretty much 0 coverage for these games. The only place to find any info is on the KU sites. National media has pretty much ignored it completely.

My nephew plays on the AAU circuit in Texas and he hasn’t even heard of the WUG.

The only coverage i’m seeing bball related is NBA and U19 USAB games.

Even more reason why Self needs to get past 2nd week in the tourney and get to a FF/championship. else this whole exercise of playing WUGs is moot.

@wrwlumpy said:

Maybe West Virginia can run with us, but no one in the Big 12 will have our depth.

Given how the last few years and tourneys have played out, why O’why do KU fans still keep on using other BIG12 teams as a benchmark for greatness.

No one in the Big 12 will have our depth? no kidding…that’s like the old chris rock line…you can’t be a dad and take pride in saying “i send my kids to school”…

we need to get past the big 12…else we will see #12, and an early round exit again…but if the majority are satisfied with that, then all this is moot.

@jayballer54 said:

Just some tidbits for the haters. - -one’s who question the legit of our conference, can’t dent facts. - -numbers don’t lie.

Every team in the Big 12 has EITHER been ranked or received votes in the top 25 this year. how tough is this league? - -70% of the games have been decided by 10 pts or less. The Avg win margin of the league is 7.9 for the year - - nothing easy. Toughness? - -Only conference every team among the top 76 BPI. .797 Non Con % - - best in Nation Non Con Toughness ? - -Big 12 has .575 win % -versus ACC, Big East , Big 10 , Pac 12 , Sec , the 8th straight year of 500 vs Nations top conferences. Big 12 - -102-26 Non Con - - - 17 of those losses by single digits- - -4 in OT. Big 12 has the most semi finalists for Neismith – in the Nation 3 now - -ANY QUESTIONS? - -the only thing I WILL say, now we ( the big 12 ) has to go out and prove ourselves in the NCAA’S - -make that sit down and shut up statement. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY

Speaking of facts…each year some dumba$$ posts this exact same post only to see BIG 12 shit its pants during the tourney followed by a landslide of posts from everyone here about how they knew to begin with big 12 was weak, etc, etc.

As always, KU is the saving grace and for reason this season, is making all the other big 12 teams look a lot better.

As i sat there and saw the first half of a terrible championship game, kept on thinking how we would have easily beat either of these 2 teams. So far, i was able to dissociate myself from our loss to Oregon and not let it get to me. but seeing the game last night, can’t help but see how we lost our golden chance. KU shit its bed when it mattered.

I really thought this was our year- i haven’t felt like that ever…even in 2008 i didn’t think we would win it all and we did…but this year was it. We were playing the elite 8 in our backyard and had a guaranteed ticket to the final 4 but Instead the BIG 12 screwed us over again.

KU was supposed to be battle tested. We had enough close come from behind victories against “good teams”, but we choked and why? this wasn’t on Self, he employed the same game plan he as all season and it worked for him all season, so why not? Again, the problem here is the vastly overrated big 12. Self’s game plan worked perfectly against Big 12 teams, but outside of that, it wasn’t.

BIG 12 sucks. KU needs to leave the BIG 12. while we are in the BIG 12, we will continue to extend the meaningless streak and will not win a championship.

embiid is the anti-wiggins

@drgnslayr said:

@BeddieKU23

“…in the end we landed the kids that wanted to come to KU.”

umm…i’m not so sure about that. Bragg’s first choice was UK and once he didn’t get any attention from Cal, he chose his 2nd option.

Diallo was a lock for ISU till the mayor told him he wasn’t going to be back (that coupled with Abdelmassih leaving pretty much sealed the deal with KU).

to add to these, look at all the other transfers (hunter, graham, coleby…).

The kids are here and they will be playing for KU, so all the above is moot. but lets call it like it is.

If it works in the NBA why can’t it work in college? Play small, play fast, win championships!

Its coaching and trusting your guards…other teams have tried it, but kerr’s using his players to their advantage. Self needs to pull a page from Kerr’s book and instead of trying to force players to play they way he thinks they should play, hone their abilities. We all know self get stubborn and falls in love with a player and will play him even after multiple bonehead plays.

with our line up + depth + experience, anything less than a FF is major disappointment and puts self on the hot seat.

Cleveland/Lebron’s ultimate goal was to win a championship and take away the freak injury to love, i’m pretty sure they would have won it all. So, the trade was the right move esp since no one knew what they were getting with Wiggins.

i personally wouldn’t have done it and kept Wiggins- but for whatever reason- either Wiggin’s not so stellar performance while @ KU or maybe Chalmer’s really turned him off on KU…Lebron wanted to go the other direction.

I wouldn’t have done it, but can’t blame cleveland- they wanted to win and did what they thought was the right thing @ that point in time.

if they did win a championship, everyone on this board would be much quieter or singing a different tune.

@approxinfinity said:

@elpoyo

So… people shouldn’t feel bad for Embiid because he can afford to not fulfill his potential and still get laid? Because in the end that’s all that matters? Come on dude. Let’s get off the basement floor.

hey…i don’t recall anyone feeling bad for conner coz he couldn’t fulfill his potential and he was on the KU team much longer than Embiid, but in his case, it was- don’t let the door hit you on your way out. Just funny how the double standard here works.

Shareef O’neal commits to UCLA

I guess no one mentioned the streak to him? and the greatness of it?

jaybate 1.0 said:

@elpoyo

Good point.

Which coach of a team from across the country now ranked above KU managed greater adversity and finished better with less depth and talent?

I would think there might be one, but I can’t think of one, so…

Ready. Set. Go!

who gives a flip!!! all i’m saying is you are comparing a Ferrari to a Corolla…it doesn’t matter what the discussion is…you just don’t compare those 2 classes of vehicles.

Wow…this board is going straight UK. Homers going from patting selves on back constantly to giving self BJs for self gratification.

hmm…lets see…let me compare KU to the vastly inferior BIG 12 and make my dick look bigger!!!

Has ANY Other Big 12 Coach than Self Managed Roster Uncertainties and Apparent Chemistry Problems As Skillfully and Effectively as Self Apparently Has this Season??

Seriously…this is what its come to? we are really comparing self to other big 12 coaches? The only coaches Self can ever be compared to are the elite coaches.

this is like you are comparing your ferrari to corollas and sedans.

We need to stop this BS comparison. In he Big 12 there’s KU, then there’s a yuuuuge gap and then there’s the rest of the big 12. If KU only played a 5 man rotation this year, we still would win the big 12. just stop the nonsense.

Gunman said:

elpoyo said:

KansasComet said:

14 Straight will be an excellent recruiting point!

so why does duke keep on getting all the top recruits?

Crook K keeps on coaching the USA Men’s National Team in the summers. Nice tool for recruiting, yes?

yes…i’m sure that’s the only reason why. i’m sure the # of rings on his finger have nothing to do with it

KansasComet said:

14 Straight will be an excellent recruiting point!

so why does duke keep on getting all the top recruits?

Everything he’s said is true. we live and die by the 3. If Svi doesn’t make his 3’s against tech, we don’t win that game. This form of Russian (or Ukrainian) roulette with Svi we are playing is very very risky.

Do recruits outside of Kansas really care about the streak? seriously…when has any recruit said i want to go and win big 12 ship and extend streak? nada…all recruits say is they want to win championships. This is why Duke constantly keeps on getting top recruits. As much as i hate to say it, Coach K is considered the gold standard in college bball and he doesn’t have close to the conf streak we do. Again - national titles. that’s what stands out! As much as we like to downplay the tourney as a crapshoot, it is the official measure of the ncaa greatness.

The streak is something we propelled to exponential importance because as KU fans, we don’t have anything else to cling to. we feel it keeps us relevant when in reality it is nothing more than a “dick size” contest with other teams in the big 12. Yea, we can brag to KSU, ISU, WVU, etc. but that’s about it.

I know a lot of you disagree with this thinking, but the same bunch also say the big 12 is the toughest conference when in reality it is not.

kjayhawks said:

KSU has as much talent as anyone in the league this year

HAHAHAHAHAHAH…GTFO…KSU…bball…talent…hahahahaha! this is so damn funny i can’t even finish typing out my clever comeback.

HighEliteMajor said:

From my view, I personally don’t care at all because I don’t care about the NBA. I just want our guys to make a living. And have long, productive careers.

not surprise!

this ties in very very well with “i personally don’t care about national championships. I just want our guys to win the big 12 and break personal records”

chriz said:

That really is interesting. I guess Deron Williams was his only other all Star?

Deron Williams was Bruce Webbers All star. hahah…didn’t even realize it. Squeaky has the same number of all stars in nba as Bill Self.