Also I wonder why one of our best post man to ever play at Kansas like Wayne Simien doesn’t start coaching like manning ? His play in the post was outstanding and he had that back to the basket turn around fadeaway that rivaled collision or raef. Maybe we need to upgrade at the bigs coaching. Just a thought ?

Seriously what was the point of him transferring here and then never getting to play ? He would have been much better off going to Wichita st.

I think at this point we should be glad we landed a solid player like Carlton Bragg. Anything past this recruit to me seems unlikely. Like I’ve said before this OAD is the real fools gold to me. It’s short sighted and has produced very little for HCBS and all Jayhawks fans. I stand by the statement that if oubre or Alexander wouldn’t have come to Kansas we would have been just as good as we were last year. I can’t wait for next year and hope with Bragg, and all the recruits HERE they get their chance to improve and excell like so many other less heralded Jayhawk recruits have.

@nuleafjhawk said:

I’ve got to admit I’ve always been somewhat baffled by the Perry haters (or at least dis-likers). It’s almost as though because he doesn’t beat his chest or do back flips at center court, he’s less worthy. You old timers think of your favorite players from 20, 30, 40 years ago - Perry’s probably put up better numbers than a lot of them. And he’s got one more year to go. He could be more aggressive, but so could …oh, everyone else on this team.

Fifteen years from now we will remember Perry Ellis.

Agreed perry Ellis has to be the most underrated player we’ve ever had as a starter. That second half vs West Virginia was probably the most impressed I’ve ever been watching him play. He couldn’t miss !! I guess I’m different than most, because when he missed that game winner all I thought was what an outstanding effort and hustle play DAMN. . Sometimes they drop, sometimes they don’t, that was about as high pressure of a shot during a conference season as Marios miracle shot. This time it just didn’t drop I have a feeling he will get that back when it matters in March.

@wissoxfan83 ya I vented about his last night in the bad ball strikes again thread I think it was called. We played solid ball movement offense and then tanked the game trying to just drive head down and stupid passes in the paint with the whole cryiowa state team waiting. The fools gold comment was so unnecessary and killed at the least greenes confidence. It will be hard to bring that offense back because now we have this new an terribly boring foul fest because of the percentages. He could have just emphasized the importance of a low post game and left the guys that we’re sizzling beyond the arc alone. Oh well too bad maybe it will make a comeback just in time. I miss that 2012 Taylor/Robinson/young/whithey/relaford team. OAD are killing basketball as a TEAM game.

This was great year and for supposedly being “down year” we won the big 12 again, and had some great moments. We need to just schedule wichita state, I don’t get why we don’t play them. I think that gave them an edge in this game. Well on the bright side At least we didn’t finish the year losing to bob Morris, on Tuesday night in NIT. There’s always next year !!!

Maybe I am in the minority here but I think that college basketball is more exciting than the NBA. I have tried in the past few years to watch a couple games but they didn’t come close to the excitement of almost any Top 50 college teams playing, especially in the conference. The tournament this year had a lot of great games, I can’t imagine any basketball fan would watch and say this is lame. Do all of you love the NBA, or is this board mostly college basketball fans ? What am I missing with the NBA, could any NBA fans tell me who would be a good team to watch, or has a different style than the next team? That seems to be the big difference for me, all the teams do the exact same thing. Is my perception wrong ?

@drgnslayr Ya me too on the baseline prowling, it’s usually good for at least one good alley oop a game, plus wide open shots on the baseline. I remember whenever someone ran a zone on us when the Morris twins were here they would run the baseline and just made them pay!! I still love it when I see a zone vs Kansas because we usually have success as soon as we get a few possessions to see what exactly our opp is doing.

@HighEliteMajor Great post and great read HEM, I posted about Lucas in the game thread, because I just can’t understand why HCBS can’t see what’s so obvious ? He has Mickelson who can do a little of everything as well as Lucas’s only strength rebounding.

well I’m surprised he hasn’t got one in Lawrence yet he was here all last year learning the system and is a proven shot blocker which we are desperate for and still can’t get on the floor. I just don’t get it he hasn’t looked bad when he’s played.

@HighEliteMajor Great post and great read HEM, I posted about Lucas in the game thread, because I just can’t understand why HCBS can’t see what’s so obvious ? He has Mickelson who can do a little of everything as well as Lucas’s only strength rebounding.

If you were HCBS would any of you go with Lucas over Mickelson ? I will never understand why HCBS does not play Mickelson more. He’s bigger has better hands and has better overall post skills than Lucas.

@BeddieKU23 Well I guess when you put it that way lol… my thought process was bring in graham off the bench, and start mason, seldon, Ellis, then any combo you like up front. I like Mickelson and Bragg right now. These are just thoughts I’ve had about where Ellis could help us the most because against length, he has struggled. I’m guessing the problem for him at the 3 would be can he keep a slasher type 3 in front of him ?

I agree we do have some really solid depth, but did I miss the ELLIS part of different player rotations in your post ? I think we should move perry over to the 3. He has struggled his whole career at KU vs taller players.

Ok I did some googling and did they pull his scholarship ? If they took that from him that’s pretty low of Michigan.

@Statmachine What’s the story with Austin Hatch?

@RockkChalkk Right, I don’t why I was thinking he was a PG

I think it would be helpful if our coaches/recruiters quit losing out on talent that’s right in our area. Otto porter, buddy heild, WC stein, olajeie? etc etc. I know I’ve missed a few but this constant chasing of FOOLS GOLD is getting old. Ok so duke won it all last year, that doesn’t prove the OAD way is the best way. They had plenty of upperclassmen and a senior PG quin cook, Jefferson, a mason or Plumlee plus another player or two. We are recruiting like we need to go after all the top 10-15 guys, and it doesn’t seem to be the best way to go about getting the best TEAM on the floor. I’m sure we will keep trying to land these players but it’s so shortsighted and has produced zero in the tournament. Ive wrote it in other threads enough times, this team will be fine and is loaded with talent for next year.

I would doubt that cannibis is a problem with a CBB Players game IQ.

@jaybate-1.0 I think at 6-9 Bragg could potentially be getting about half the minutes at the 4, with Jamari and possibly SVI? He’s 6-8 he could hang with a bit more mass. Also saying that we have to get a 5 is probably true, but we could make it another year without that main shot blocker in the middle. Lucas will be a junior and Michelson will be a senior and maybe I’m in the minority but those two have the size and skills to handle the post. What little we saw of HM, he sure played well when he was given the chance. With Lucas he was a project, and this being his 4th year in the program it just seems impossible he can’t be coached up and improved. Anyways I could go on and on but those are some of my thoughts for the front court. Thanks for all the info jaybate1.0 and all the the other posters I’ve sure learned a lot. I wasn’t even aware of these shoe company wars in the recruitment process: