Bernie vs. Biden
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@FarmerJayhawk wellp. Biden better not F this up.
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@FarmerJayhawk there is still the possibility that Bernie murders Biden in the debate March 15th.
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@approxinfinity said in Bernie vs. Biden:
@FarmerJayhawk there is still the possibility that Bernie murders Biden in the debate March 15th.
True. The math makes it VERY hard. There are about 2500 delegates left and Bernie has to win almost 60% of them to get to 1991, and that’ll only go up significantly when Biden wins almost everything. Biden needs about 53% of those left, and it’ll be well under 50 tomorrow. I’m not finding states left on the board with big hauls that would go for Bernie. Florida? Not a chance. Can’t say nice things about Castro and do well. New York? Heavily black and Jewish. Not Bernie voters. Illinois, again, heavily black and Obama’s home state.
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@FarmerJayhawk if Biden has a very bad senior moment then things can change. Other than that I agree with you, it’s over.
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They all are to old!
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@Crimsonorblue22 said in Bernie vs. Biden:
They all are to old!
if only we had a candidate that was less than half their age 
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@Crimsonorblue22 You have to be old (and senile) to want to be President.
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It’s funny. The only people who should be President usually want absolutely nothing to do with the job.
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@FarmerJayhawk “It’s funny. The only people who should be President usually want absolutely nothing to do with the job.”
That’s because they are smart.
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@nuleafjhawk ding ding
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Nothing but respect for MY (future) PRESIDENT https://twitter.com/marisakabas/status/1237206964226199554?s=21
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Sorry my friends trump beats Biden like a drum. Let’s be honest Biden doesn’t know where he is half the time, or who he is talking too.
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Hey don’t shoot me. The dem party went all socialism. Crazy. Free everything
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The crazy thing? If trump acted like Biden? The media would be all over him. Talking about how he lost his mind. Yet you don’t hear nothing from the lib media on Biden. Nothing. Shows you how bad the Dem party really is. I mean you have all the media giants in your corner except Fox News yet you still can’t fool the American public. Sad days. It appears the only thing the Dems have left is to play the race card.
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@DoubleDD said in Bernie vs. Biden:
The crazy thing? If trump acted like Biden? The media would be all over him. Talking about how he lost his mind. Yet you don’t hear nothing from the lib media on Biden. Nothing. Shows you how bad the Dem party really is. I mean you have all the media giants in your corner except Fox News yet you still can’t fool the American public. Sad days. It appears the only thing the Dems have left is to play the race card.
Sad part is I’ve NEVER seen a President attacked by the Social Media as President Trump from Day one - - - EVER they have ha a vendetta against this guy from Day 1 , yet his popularity is at an all time high Un-Employment is as low as it has been in some time , a President that doesn’t take any Crap from some of these terrorists Countries - -!st President Ever to Meet with North Korea on their home ground – Kim got pretty quiet in the end I’ll catch hell don’t really care. I DO know I sure the hell would NOT eve vote for what the Dems are offering now. - -you might as well hand the election to President Trump if this is the best they have to offer. Sanders is a dam radical and Biden ? - - - Biden ? - -well pretty much says it all. Hell so desperate at this point they trying anything still talking about the possibilities of getting good old Hilleary to try - -AGAIN mercy Good luck. Ok have at it
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I will say within my liberal bubble of media consumption I hear a lot about Biden’s fitness in regards to his age and possible cognitive decline. I heard the same about Trump a couple of years ago but have heard less recently. In general, my opinion is you don’t hear too much about any one Trump incident/scandal/mishap/lie because there are simply so many. It almost seems like the strategy these last several years is just to bombard the media with so many things that have never happened before/been done before that traditional media and the human brain simply can’t keep up. Again, this is all from an admittedly liberal bubble consisting of my twitter feed (where I choose who to follow based on the voices I want to hear), NPR, an occasional visit to cnn.com, this site, Last Week Tonight (though less so recently) and news and articles recommended to me by friends and colleagues (mostly in Austin, TX or Wichita, KS). The last one and twitter are where I am most likely to encounter views that challenge my own as I make a point to associate with people (in person and online) who don’t look and think just like me.
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@DoubleDD said in Bernie vs. Biden:
The crazy thing? If trump acted like Biden? The media would be all over him. Talking about how he lost his mind. Yet you don’t hear nothing from the lib media on Biden. Nothing. Shows you how bad the Dem party really is. I mean you have all the media giants in your corner except Fox News yet you still can’t fool the American public. Sad days. It appears the only thing the Dems have left is to play the race card.
Seems to me the President isn’t exactly the paragon of mental acuity. He always has a hard time staying on topic and formulating coherent thoughts.
I’m an unaffiliated libertarian with mostly liberal friends (or at least not Trump supporting friends, regardless of ideology) and a family that are MAGA die hards. So I get where most folks are coming from, but the Trump thing just mystifies me.
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FarmerJayhawk “Seems to me the President isn’t exactly the paragon of mental acuity. He always has a hard time staying on topic and formulating coherent thoughts.”
Truer words were never spoken. BUT - he has the only two things that matter. A buttload of money and a hot wife.
Now THAT’S President material. GO USA.
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Biden might not lose a state tonight. This one is ovaaaaaaa
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@DoubleDD said in Bernie vs. Biden:
The crazy thing? If trump acted like Biden? The media would be all over him. Talking about how he lost his mind. Yet you don’t hear nothing from the lib media on Biden. Nothing. Shows you how bad the Dem party really is. I mean you have all the media giants in your corner except Fox News yet you still can’t fool the American public. Sad days. It appears the only thing the Dems have left is to play the race card.
Trump is a clinical example of a malignant narcissist.
His followers/worshipers are dweebs and gullible marks.
Lookie, no race card!
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Should I start selling “Obama Biden Klobuchar 2020” bumper stickers now?
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I hope the debate on March 15th isn’t a disaster for the Democrats, however it shapes up.
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@approxinfinity said in Bernie vs. Biden:
I hope the debate on March 15th isn’t a disaster for the Democrats, however it shapes up.
At this point Biden should just blow it off. This race is over
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They both will have corona by then
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@DanR said in Bernie vs. Biden:
@DoubleDD said in Bernie vs. Biden:
The crazy thing? If trump acted like Biden? The media would be all over him. Talking about how he lost his mind. Yet you don’t hear nothing from the lib media on Biden. Nothing. Shows you how bad the Dem party really is. I mean you have all the media giants in your corner except Fox News yet you still can’t fool the American public. Sad days. It appears the only thing the Dems have left is to play the race card.
Trump is a clinical example of a malignant narcissist.
His followers/worshipers are dweebs and gullible marks.
Lookie, no race card!
Nah we are middle America something you dem elites on the west and east coast for got about.
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Surprise!
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@DanR now you be sure to make your donation to the Reverend Jackson.
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@DoubleDD said in Bernie vs. Biden:
@DanR said in Bernie vs. Biden:
@DoubleDD said in Bernie vs. Biden:
The crazy thing? If trump acted like Biden? The media would be all over him. Talking about how he lost his mind. Yet you don’t hear nothing from the lib media on Biden. Nothing. Shows you how bad the Dem party really is. I mean you have all the media giants in your corner except Fox News yet you still can’t fool the American public. Sad days. It appears the only thing the Dems have left is to play the race card.
Trump is a clinical example of a malignant narcissist.
His followers/worshipers are dweebs and gullible marks.
Lookie, no race card!
Nah we are middle America something you dem elites on the west and east coast for got about.
I’m from literally the middle of America (s/o to Lebanon, KS!) and have been working to stop Trump for years. I’m not a Democrat, voted for Romney in 12, Jeb! in 16. The Trump trade war has nearly cratered my family’s livelihood. I don’t like the personal attacks, but Trump has been a disaster for a lot of middle America, which is why we spent about as much on farm bailouts as auto bailouts. I took my check not because I wanted to, but because it was that or live off savings and my modest salary. We all knew this, warned our people on the right, and they still nominated him. So forgive me if I’m peeved at the “BUT HE SAYS WHAT I THINK ABOUT STUFF I SAW ON FACEBOOK” voters.
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Oh and @DanR conservatives aren’t voting someone in the office that can’t remember where he’s at or who he’s talking to. Or a person is picking a fight with an auto union worker. I thought the Dems were all about the unions? Wait wait maybe I got this wrong? Does the gym party really care or are they more about telling people how it’s going to be? Gullible is that what you said
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Bernie vs. Biden:
@DoubleDD said in Bernie vs. Biden:
@DanR said in Bernie vs. Biden:
@DoubleDD said in Bernie vs. Biden:
The crazy thing? If trump acted like Biden? The media would be all over him. Talking about how he lost his mind. Yet you don’t hear nothing from the lib media on Biden. Nothing. Shows you how bad the Dem party really is. I mean you have all the media giants in your corner except Fox News yet you still can’t fool the American public. Sad days. It appears the only thing the Dems have left is to play the race card.
Trump is a clinical example of a malignant narcissist.
His followers/worshipers are dweebs and gullible marks.
Lookie, no race card!
Nah we are middle America something you dem elites on the west and east coast for got about.
I’m from literally the middle of America (s/o to Lebanon, KS!) and have been working to stop Trump for years. I’m not a Democrat, voted for Romney in 12, Jeb! in 16. The Trump trade war has nearly cratered my family’s livelihood. I don’t like the personal attacks, but Trump has been a disaster for a lot of middle America, which is why we spent about as much on farm bailouts as auto bailouts. I took my check not because I wanted to, but because it was that or live off savings and my modest salary. We all knew this, warned our people on the right, and they still nominated him. So forgive me if I’m peeved at the “BUT HE SAYS WHAT I THINK ABOUT STUFF I SAW ON FACEBOOK” voters.
So you would rather be at the mercy of a foreign government communist government? Trump helped farmers a big-time
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Tump has it has the lowest unemployment rates across the board for every race of people. He has work trade deals to help America. Yeah so he says some crap on Twitter. And no he’s not a polished politician like Obama. Do you remember Obama was saying hey we’re not great anymore.
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Oh and @FarmerJayhawk im from middle America too. It’s been pretty good sense Trump stepped into office.
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@DoubleDD said in Bernie vs. Biden:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Bernie vs. Biden:
@DoubleDD said in Bernie vs. Biden:
@DanR said in Bernie vs. Biden:
@DoubleDD said in Bernie vs. Biden:
The crazy thing? If trump acted like Biden? The media would be all over him. Talking about how he lost his mind. Yet you don’t hear nothing from the lib media on Biden. Nothing. Shows you how bad the Dem party really is. I mean you have all the media giants in your corner except Fox News yet you still can’t fool the American public. Sad days. It appears the only thing the Dems have left is to play the race card.
Trump is a clinical example of a malignant narcissist.
His followers/worshipers are dweebs and gullible marks.
Lookie, no race card!
Nah we are middle America something you dem elites on the west and east coast for got about.
I’m from literally the middle of America (s/o to Lebanon, KS!) and have been working to stop Trump for years. I’m not a Democrat, voted for Romney in 12, Jeb! in 16. The Trump trade war has nearly cratered my family’s livelihood. I don’t like the personal attacks, but Trump has been a disaster for a lot of middle America, which is why we spent about as much on farm bailouts as auto bailouts. I took my check not because I wanted to, but because it was that or live off savings and my modest salary. We all knew this, warned our people on the right, and they still nominated him. So forgive me if I’m peeved at the “BUT HE SAYS WHAT I THINK ABOUT STUFF I SAW ON FACEBOOK” voters.
So you would rather be at the mercy of a foreign government communist government? Trump helped farmers a big-time
Yeah… no he didn’t. I was doing pretty ok (not awesome, getting by) until Trump started the trade war and my costs went WAY up and my revenues went WAY down. If that’s help I’d hate to see how he’d hurt us. USMCA is garbage. It’s NAFTA but harder for US producers to import things from abroad. Again, my costs are going up. Not great. John Deere, et al. are having a harder time sourcing steel because the trade war put US manufacturing in recession, so also not great.
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Sorry my bad. I just don’t like being called gullible, when the dem party is voting in someone that can’t remember where he is at or who he talking too. It appears this is not about what is best for the country. This is about politics. So sad. I Btw I hated mitt Romney. Voted against him. Yes I voted for Obama. I don’t waste my votes. Who in their right mind leaves a dog tied to the bumber of a car, then expects to lead the free world?
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Bernie vs. Biden:
@DoubleDD said in Bernie vs. Biden:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Bernie vs. Biden:
@DoubleDD said in Bernie vs. Biden:
@DanR said in Bernie vs. Biden:
@DoubleDD said in Bernie vs. Biden:
The crazy thing? If trump acted like Biden? The media would be all over him. Talking about how he lost his mind. Yet you don’t hear nothing from the lib media on Biden. Nothing. Shows you how bad the Dem party really is. I mean you have all the media giants in your corner except Fox News yet you still can’t fool the American public. Sad days. It appears the only thing the Dems have left is to play the race card.
Trump is a clinical example of a malignant narcissist.
His followers/worshipers are dweebs and gullible marks.
Lookie, no race card!
Nah we are middle America something you dem elites on the west and east coast for got about.
I’m from literally the middle of America (s/o to Lebanon, KS!) and have been working to stop Trump for years. I’m not a Democrat, voted for Romney in 12, Jeb! in 16. The Trump trade war has nearly cratered my family’s livelihood. I don’t like the personal attacks, but Trump has been a disaster for a lot of middle America, which is why we spent about as much on farm bailouts as auto bailouts. I took my check not because I wanted to, but because it was that or live off savings and my modest salary. We all knew this, warned our people on the right, and they still nominated him. So forgive me if I’m peeved at the “BUT HE SAYS WHAT I THINK ABOUT STUFF I SAW ON FACEBOOK” voters.
So you would rather be at the mercy of a foreign government communist government? Trump helped farmers a big-time
Yeah… no he didn’t. I was doing pretty ok (not awesome, getting by) until Trump started the trade war and my costs went WAY up and my revenues went WAY down. If that’s help I’d hate to see how he’d hurt us. USMCA is garbage. It’s NAFTA but harder for US producers to import things from abroad. Again, my costs are going up. Not great. John Deere, et al. are having a harder time sourcing steel because the trade war put US manufacturing in recession, so also not great.
Might want to google? US manufacturing is on the rise. Hell we make steel in this country again
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Hey I know it was tough for you farmers, but in the long run it will be better.
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Also @FarmerJayhawk dont be ashamed for taking the money. You earned the right to take that money. That’s why trump pushed for the money for American farmers. He knew what he was about todo was going to create waves, but it had do be done.
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@DoubleDD said in Bernie vs. Biden:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Bernie vs. Biden:
@DoubleDD said in Bernie vs. Biden:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Bernie vs. Biden:
@DoubleDD said in Bernie vs. Biden:
@DanR said in Bernie vs. Biden:
@DoubleDD said in Bernie vs. Biden:
The crazy thing? If trump acted like Biden? The media would be all over him. Talking about how he lost his mind. Yet you don’t hear nothing from the lib media on Biden. Nothing. Shows you how bad the Dem party really is. I mean you have all the media giants in your corner except Fox News yet you still can’t fool the American public. Sad days. It appears the only thing the Dems have left is to play the race card.
Trump is a clinical example of a malignant narcissist.
His followers/worshipers are dweebs and gullible marks.
Lookie, no race card!
Nah we are middle America something you dem elites on the west and east coast for got about.
I’m from literally the middle of America (s/o to Lebanon, KS!) and have been working to stop Trump for years. I’m not a Democrat, voted for Romney in 12, Jeb! in 16. The Trump trade war has nearly cratered my family’s livelihood. I don’t like the personal attacks, but Trump has been a disaster for a lot of middle America, which is why we spent about as much on farm bailouts as auto bailouts. I took my check not because I wanted to, but because it was that or live off savings and my modest salary. We all knew this, warned our people on the right, and they still nominated him. So forgive me if I’m peeved at the “BUT HE SAYS WHAT I THINK ABOUT STUFF I SAW ON FACEBOOK” voters.
So you would rather be at the mercy of a foreign government communist government? Trump helped farmers a big-time
Yeah… no he didn’t. I was doing pretty ok (not awesome, getting by) until Trump started the trade war and my costs went WAY up and my revenues went WAY down. If that’s help I’d hate to see how he’d hurt us. USMCA is garbage. It’s NAFTA but harder for US producers to import things from abroad. Again, my costs are going up. Not great. John Deere, et al. are having a harder time sourcing steel because the trade war put US manufacturing in recession, so also not great.
Might want to google? US manufacturing is on the rise. Hell we make steel in this country again
Uhhhh yeah ok we’re at the same level we were at 5 years ago, and we’re all paying more for the same output. Yay. https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/OUTMS
Steel production looks about meh too. https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/IPN3311A2RN
Look, I don’t blame people to turning to something new if they’re frustrated with the way things were going.
The Romney dog thing was a weird trope. We would carry hunting dogs in an open air dog box to hunt coyotes and they all loved it. Driving down dirt roads at speed and the whole thing. Not much different than this story. https://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/04/dog-seamus-loved-trips-atop-family-car-says-ann-romney/
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@DoubleDD said in Bernie vs. Biden:
Also @FarmerJayhawk dont be ashamed for taking the money. You earned the right to take that money. That’s why trump pushed for the money for American farmers. He knew what he was about todo was going to create waves, but it had do be done.
I’m not ashamed, I’m pissed this was entirely avoidable and the stupid trade war cost me a shitload of money for a bunch of non-binding targets the Chinese have no intention of meeting, and now with coronavirus I’ll be lucky to get half of what we were promised by the administration. The Chinese will bail on their non-binding targets and buy a small fraction of what they kind of promised but not really.
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@FarmerJayhawk im not a farmer but I live in the country. I hate people. Lol. Everyday for about a month a walker dog would show up at my house after a night of hunting coyotes. We share a coffee, and then I would call his owner. Loved that dog,
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Bernie vs. Biden:
@DoubleDD said in Bernie vs. Biden:
Also @FarmerJayhawk dont be ashamed for taking the money. You earned the right to take that money. That’s why trump pushed for the money for American farmers. He knew what he was about todo was going to create waves, but it had do be done.
I’m not ashamed, I’m pissed this was entirely avoidable and the stupid trade war cost me a shitload of money for a bunch of non-binding targets the Chinese have no intention of meeting, and now with coronavirus I’ll be lucky to get half of what we were promised by the administration. The Chinese will bail on their non-binding targets and buy a small fraction of what they kind of promised but not really.
Oh so you rather be at the mercy of a foreign communist country? A country that steals our patons. The country that mass produces items with child labor. Okay I got you.
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Please forgive me for not seeing your logic
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@DoubleDD said in Bernie vs. Biden:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Bernie vs. Biden:
@DoubleDD said in Bernie vs. Biden:
Also @FarmerJayhawk dont be ashamed for taking the money. You earned the right to take that money. That’s why trump pushed for the money for American farmers. He knew what he was about todo was going to create waves, but it had do be done.
I’m not ashamed, I’m pissed this was entirely avoidable and the stupid trade war cost me a shitload of money for a bunch of non-binding targets the Chinese have no intention of meeting, and now with coronavirus I’ll be lucky to get half of what we were promised by the administration. The Chinese will bail on their non-binding targets and buy a small fraction of what they kind of promised but not really.
Oh so you rather be at the mercy of a foreign communist country? A country that steals our patons. The country that mass produces items with child labor. Okay I got you.
I mean I’d rather sell the things I pour my soul into to China in the free market than take taxpayer cash because the government ensured we couldn’t make it. I don’t want public money. I want money people pay me for things they want to buy. Sure, I’m at the mercy of the market and that’s fine by me. I’m not entitled to anything other than what we can trade for in the free market. Don’t charge me an additional tax my competitors don’t have to deal with. Because remember, tariff incidence applies mostly on consumers. And in the commodity market, China can buy tariff free soy from Brazil instead of tariff’d soy from America.
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@DoubleDD said in Bernie vs. Biden:
Yeah, that article makes about the opposite point you want to make.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Bernie vs. Biden:
@DoubleDD said in Bernie vs. Biden:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Bernie vs. Biden:
@DoubleDD said in Bernie vs. Biden:
Also @FarmerJayhawk dont be ashamed for taking the money. You earned the right to take that money. That’s why trump pushed for the money for American farmers. He knew what he was about todo was going to create waves, but it had do be done.
I’m not ashamed, I’m pissed this was entirely avoidable and the stupid trade war cost me a shitload of money for a bunch of non-binding targets the Chinese have no intention of meeting, and now with coronavirus I’ll be lucky to get half of what we were promised by the administration. The Chinese will bail on their non-binding targets and buy a small fraction of what they kind of promised but not really.
Oh so you rather be at the mercy of a foreign communist country? A country that steals our patons. The country that mass produces items with child labor. Okay I got you.
I mean I’d rather sell the things I pour my soul into to China in the free market than take taxpayer cash because the government ensured we couldn’t make it. I don’t want public money. I want money people pay me for things they want to buy. Sure, I’m at the mercy of the market and that’s fine by me. I’m not entitled to anything other than what we can trade for in the free market. Don’t charge me an additional tax my competitors don’t have to deal with. Because remember, tariff incidence applies mostly on consumers. And in the commodity market, China can buy tariff free soy from Brazil instead of tariff’d soy from America.
You are a true American, but my friend that is what a federal government is for. To protect people like you. Take the money without shame. You farmers have been getting shafted for decades over foreign trade. It’s time to right the ship.
That’s all I’m saying. And no I don’t think trump is perfect. Sometimes I wish he would just shut the fuck up. Sorry @approxinfinity.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Bernie vs. Biden:
@DoubleDD said in Bernie vs. Biden:
Yeah, that article makes about the opposite point you want to make.
Numbers don’t lie. After that it’s all opinions
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And just for the record? If Dem voters would’ve voted Amy or even Booker? You might of captured my vote. Not so much booker, but Amy yes. But no the dem voter was like screw the country we have to beat Trump. Now we are stuck with Biden and Sanders. A brokered convention.
