Super Tuesday
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I’m not going to bash Obama. One of the best speakers I think I’ve ever heard. Yet not sure he was a capitalist puppet. In fact he seemed to believe that America wasn’t to be the greatest nation on earth. And was trying to prepare Americans of that fact.
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@BShark said in Super Tuesday:
@DoubleDD said in Super Tuesday:
Come on @BShark that is weak you have a greater mind than that. Come on
Are you arguing that America/the wealthy elite haven’t controlled other countries through oppression?
Oh no argument from me in that note.
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Biden just introduced his wife as his sister and his sister as his wife. I think he said “I’m her wife” and then said “oh no, they switched on me”.
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@DoubleDD He was though, he talked a big game and failed to deliver anything of substance. He could have raised minimum wage in a meaningful way and did not. I believe the last thing the DNC wants is an electable truly liberal candidate.
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FYI I like uncle joe hate to see this.
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@approxinfinity said in Super Tuesday:
Biden just introduced his wife as his sister and his sister as his wife. I think he said “I’m her wife” and then said “oh no, they switched on me”.
Good grief.
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@DoubleDD said in Super Tuesday:
FYI I like uncle joe hate to see this.
This makes sense given he is Republican. :p
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Someone turn his mic down.
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@approxinfinity said in Super Tuesday:
Someone turn his mic down.
He’s been doing well today, maybe it would be best for him if he just didn’t talk anymore.
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https://twitter.com/M_Vernon/status/1235031318771138560
Okay now that’s funny.
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Wow. Protesters ran on stage right behind him. Security?
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He’s still a better person than Trump. Just pick a competent running mate.
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Ah ha. on queue he just mentioned Amy first. “We won Minnesota because of Amy Klobuchar”
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@approxinfinity said in Super Tuesday:
Ah ha. on queue he just mentioned Amy.
I will vomit uncontrollably if this is the ticket.
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lol
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Trump has flanned the fates of hame.
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How come you guys don’t like Amy? I know she can’t win, but still she seems quite liberal
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@DoubleDD I like Amy. She was my first choice.
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I know this sounds crazy. But I think she could beat trump. But she can’t win the Dem ticket.
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She could. She would gut him in the debates. So would Warren.
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Just not a big fan. Next to Bloomberg and Biden my least favorite candidate was probably Buttigieg after the way he changed his stances when he thought it might save his nomination. Hate that shit.
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Amy yes, Warren no. A big no. Warren has told more lies than trump.
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@approxinfinity said in Super Tuesday:
She could. She would gut him in the debates. So would Warren.
Maybe they want Biden to get the nomination so it’s close to a level playing field.
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@DoubleDD said in Super Tuesday:
Amy yes, Warren no. A big no. Warren has told more lies than trump.
I call her LYIN LIZ.
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@BShark Buttigieg = Tracy Flick.
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@approxinfinity said in Super Tuesday:
Wow. Protesters ran on stage right behind him. Security?
Further proof vegans are the worst.
To @DoubleDD‘s point, I’m a libertarian and absolutely can’t stand Trump. Tepidly supported the TCJA because it was directionally good but not so good in the details, don’t support the USMCA because it’s a bailout to unions and is economic imperialism on Mexico. I’m a farm kid and opposed the bailouts. I took my check because duh, but it’s horrible policy. I really like markets.
Bernie has failed in his key idea: turn out new voters to elect a socialist. It just isn’t happening. The new voters in the D column are blacks and upscale suburban whites who are breaking overwhelmingly for Biden. Bernie isn’t putting the Obama coalition back together. Youth turnout is really bad. Blacks are turning out big for Biden. This is just my cold, former operative analysis. I voted for Biden but the numbers are what they are. Biden is going to fight Bernie to a draw in the only number that counts tonight and that’s an unqualified loss for Bernie.
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So… if it is a brokered nomination, Warren could still be nominated at the convention. Hard to imagine.
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@DoubleDD said in Super Tuesday:
Amy yes, Warren no. A big no. Warren has told more lies than trump.
Serious policy folks know Warren is a fraud. Most of her #PlansforEverything don’t hold up to any serious scrutiny.
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@approxinfinity said in Super Tuesday:
So… if it is a brokered nomination, Warren could still be nominated at the convention. Hard to imagine.
While possible, it’s extremely unlikely. It’ll be Biden if it’s close on the first ballot. Remember, superdelegates can vote on the second ballot.
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@FarmerJayhawk Who do you hope Biden picks as a running mate?
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Wow, CNN just showed Biden won every single district in Oklahoma, where Bernie won all but 2 districts in Oklahoma over Clinton in 2016.
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@approxinfinity said in Super Tuesday:
@FarmerJayhawk Who do you hope Biden picks as a running mate?
Oh boy. I think Sen. Tammy Baldwin (WI) would be a solid choice. First openly gay Senator, and from a state that would lock in 270 for D’s. Gov. Gretchen Whitmer from Michigan would be good too.
My pick would be Sen. Kyrsten Sinema from Arizona. Young, attractive, openly bi, and a centrist.
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@FarmerJayhawk I was shocked at the coverage last election that the pundits thought that Kaine got outdebated by Pence. Not that it matters much, but do you think Sinema would outdebate Pence?
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So this aged poorly.
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@approxinfinity said in Super Tuesday:
@FarmerJayhawk I was shocked at the coverage last election that the pundits thought that Kaine got outdebated by Pence. Not that it matters much, but do you think Sinema would outdebate Pence?
I think she’d hold her own. I think the perception of a young, bi, centrist Senator vs. Pence would be a win in itself. And if you can win Arizona, ballgame.
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Breaking news Trump elected president for the next eight years.
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@BShark said in Super Tuesday:
Breaking news Trump elected president for the next eight years.
Real question. Where does Bernie either swing voters that went for Trump or turn out new voters that Biden wouldn’t? I just really don’t see the math.
We’re not repealing the 22nd Amendment.
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Maybe Biden can win because hey Obama and carry on the legacy of endless war and bank bail outs.
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@FarmerJayhawk I’m just upset even though I knew this was happening deep down quite awhile ago.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Super Tuesday:
@BShark said in Super Tuesday:
Breaking news Trump elected president for the next eight years.
We’re not repealing the 22nd Amendment.
I thought about going with 12 tbh.
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@BShark said in Super Tuesday:
Maybe Biden can win because hey Obama and carry on the legacy of endless war and bank bail outs.
TARP was under Bush. I mean ya boy Bernie was a big booster for Dodd-Frank which was supposed to end them all. At least that’s what he said ¯_(ツ)_/¯
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@BShark said in Super Tuesday:
@FarmerJayhawk I’m just upset even though I knew this was happening deep down quite awhile ago.
It’s far from over. There’s A LOT of Bernie delegates out there. California delegates are days out, New York is still up for grabs, Bernie is going to get a good chunk from Texas, etc.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Super Tuesday:
@BShark said in Super Tuesday:
@FarmerJayhawk I’m just upset even though I knew this was happening deep down quite awhile ago.
It’s far from over. There’s A LOT of Bernie delegates out there. California delegates are days out, New York is still up for grabs, Bernie is going to get a good chunk from Texas, etc.
Uh huh okay dot gif
But seriously this was all the confirmation I needed. You know as well as I do the dnc wants Biden. Warren has played her role to help this admirably. Time to stock up on mad max gear for the climate apocalypse.
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@BShark said in Super Tuesday:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Super Tuesday:
@BShark said in Super Tuesday:
@FarmerJayhawk I’m just upset even though I knew this was happening deep down quite awhile ago.
It’s far from over. There’s A LOT of Bernie delegates out there. California delegates are days out, New York is still up for grabs, Bernie is going to get a good chunk from Texas, etc.
Uh huh okay dot gif
But seriously this was all the confirmation I needed. You know as well as I do the dnc wants Biden. Warren has played her role to help this admirably. Time to stock up on mad max gear for the climate apocalypse.
I’ve been clear since Saturday I thought a contested convention was the most likely outcome. I still think that. If Bernie can’t get the majority of delegates based on the rules HE LOBBIED FOR that’s on him. If you can’t win under the rules you wanted then can it.
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But here’s the deal. We a HUGE amount of attention to the Presidential election (as well we should!) but pay almost zero to the most important elections to Congress. Without looking, can you name the major candidates for Senate in swing states? If voters want a major legislative agenda, work for/donate to/promote… idk… candidates for the LEGISLATIVE BRANCH. Their the superior branch of government and can make the changes you want. The President cannot.
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@FarmerJayhawk said in Super Tuesday:
But here’s the deal. We a HUGE amount of attention to the Presidential election (as well we should!) but pay almost zero to the most important elections to Congress. Without looking, can you name the major candidates for Senate in swing states? If voters want a major legislative agenda, work for/donate to/promote… idk… candidates for the LEGISLATIVE BRANCH. Their the superior branch of government and can make the changes you want. The President cannot.
And ultimately none of this matters anyway but the point is taken.
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Joe F’n Biden. Well then.
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@FarmerJayhawk would you be concerned that taking one of the senators you mentioned as a running mate would just turn the senate one more seat red? And what do you expect the impact of a Biden ticket down ballot to be?
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@BShark said in Super Tuesday:
@FarmerJayhawk said in Super Tuesday:
But here’s the deal. We a HUGE amount of attention to the Presidential election (as well we should!) but pay almost zero to the most important elections to Congress. Without looking, can you name the major candidates for Senate in swing states? If voters want a major legislative agenda, work for/donate to/promote… idk… candidates for the LEGISLATIVE BRANCH. Their the superior branch of government and can make the changes you want. The President cannot.
And ultimately none of this matters anyway but the point is taken.
Of course it does. The makeup of Congress matters A TON. A D Congress with a Biden Presidency gets more progressive change than Bernie with a R Congress. The RNC is making a massive mistake in not going balls to the wall to protect Gardner, Collins, McSally, et al. A Trump second term is crippled if Sen. Schumer gets to ignore Trump appointments.
