April 4th, 1988 Discuss
It remains tied with the White Sox winning the World Series as the best day in my sporting life. I chose to go to KU just at the right time, not even knowing KU had a rich basketball history. Three years after enrolling I had watched us get robbed out of the chance to play for the championship in 1986 and two years later a championship.
I have lived off that memory through many KU disappointments. When we have lost in the tourney every year since except once, I remind myself I was fortunate to be a senior at KU when we won it all.
I won’t discuss the game much. It was a fabulous game. I still talk to random fans not affiliated with KU and they remember the 50-50 halftime score. They ask what happened to Danny. I tell them he was an NBA all star, probably destined for the HOF until his knees prevented it.
I really don’t know where the term Danny and the Miracles came from. It wasn’t, to my recollection used of the team at that point. I do remember at Late Night that year that a group of players including Danny sang “Kansas City Here I Come” rather prophetically.
Walking on campus at 1 or 2 AM if you were clueless of what had happened you would have thought there was another 60’s riot protesting Vietnam or something. The place was a mess! I saw someone on top of a statue (which building I don’t remember) over close to the Union. It was pure unbridled passion for KU basketball.
Billy Tubbs interviewed later said he knew that OU was the better team. He was a jerk in victory and a jerk in defeat and he’s the reason I still lump OU in with misery. (By the way a miseryable player was arrested TWICE yesterday).
I was in the line for championship T-Shirts, which I still have by the way, but they’ve shrunk so I don’t wear them, when I struck up a conversation with a KU fan from Oklahoma. He’d driven up from Norman where he lived. He told me he’d bought a bunch of “OU National Champions” t’s for a buck or two and gave them to his friends there who were OU fans! Being a sports fan is fun, isn’t it?
So what do you remember? We’ve go to hold ourselves together til next year now when our eternal optimism will have us anticipating title #11 and championship #4.
nuleafjhawk last edited by
@wissoxfan83 " I was in the line for championship T-shirts, which I still have by the way, but they’ve shrunk."
A lot of my jeans have shrunk in the past few years as well.
@wissoxfan83 I told the boys that this is your history & legacy in the making, fly proud & high. I recall saying to them, 8 & 13 at the time, to enjoy the H out of this, as it may be 25 years or more before they get to savor this again-maybe never.
And damn the luck, tell me, how poetic can it be that misery made world history the other day also? Forever (hopefully) to preserved in the annals of google & wikapedia searches alike-the ONLY D 1 school to EVER have a player arrested TWICE in the same day. I’m so proud they achieved such a feat since they’re no longer in a conf with us. LOLOLOL !! Though records are made to be broken, that’s simply a performance they truly have strived for & deserve, & I not only hope, but actually forsee that being a triumph in the annals of misery victories forever, in the distinguished & desperate tradtions of their heroes Frank & Jesse James.
K State may suck, but misery swallows !!
@wissoxfan83 Most likely that statue was Jimmy Green which stands in front of the original law school building-it has been part of quite a few pranks. As for me, I was still living in KC in 1988 but could not get tickets, so watched at home and then went downtown to celebrate after the win. I DID have tickets in 86 and saw us get robbed in Reunion arena in Dallas. I still remember Marshall getting hammered on a layup resulting in a career ending knee injury and NO FOUL. Later I read Coach Brown had tears in his eyes when Marshall’s knee went out. I also got to take my father (a bigger ku fan than me) to San Antonio in 2008. Those championships help me make through our early exits in March. I think the loss to Arizona when they went all the way is the one that bothers me most. Second is VCU. I took my son to watch us dance past Richmond and we looked great. I had a ton of people heading here to Houston until VCU ended our run. That weekend would have been such a great time and it was gone “just like that”.
@wissoxfan83 And by the way, we have two Helms Championships hanging in the rafters from before the NCAA days so the count is five. When people say they don’t count I remind them the tourney field was much smaller during the UCLA run-I think 32 at the most, maybe even 16.
HawkInMizery last edited by
@JayhawkRock78 That bothers me too when people say they don’t count and I normally Kensucky fans
I was a two year KU fan in 1988. Well above the age of 2 but I became a fan of the Jayhawks before the 1986-87 season started. thanks to my dad going to a Larry Brown coaches clinic and bringing back some swag and talking about this Manning kid and how good he was.
I remember watching OU play that year and they were fun to watch, much like the UNLV Rebels of 1990 and 91. They pressed, they ran, they never stopped moving. They shot the three. They played inside out. How was KU going to beat them I thought.
And then the opening tip was like the race bell at the Bellmont stakes. It was fast it was furious it was tied at half. I remember my dad saying there was no way KU could keep that pace up in the second half that Brown would slow it down to a snails pace and keep it close til late.
KU just played with them shot for shot, run for run. In the end we all know that KU won.
As for Danny and Miracles, I think it was the SI cover, but not sure. I wonder if anyone anywhere knows how that came about? I might have to google it and research it today if work doesn’t get in my way.
Danny Manning’s wiki page says he is the current head coach of Wake Forest.
It looks like our Danny took the wake forest job!
@Crimsonorblue22 Good luck Danny, rule the ACC!!!
SI’scover just had a pic of Danny driving that read “Oh Danny boy” on the cover.
Onto the next idea
Wishawk last edited by
@wissoxfan83 Great memories!
I bought my wife a Championship T, but now only have the picture of it and the memory of the crazy celebration. It was wonderful and thanks for the reminder.
Water’s deep in the ACC. Danny’s going against some heavy hitters very early in his journey. Recruiting is brutal vs Roy & Konsonants. Turg had a rough time there & may do better in the BG 10. Would’ve liked to see him hold & further secure the fort at Tulsa a couple more years, but is possible he’s posturing/grooming for the job here. That’s something I can envision for real if he’ very successful there-Lawrence is his home. What we don’t know can’t hurt us I guess but wish him all the best & fair wind in the sails at Wake.
@JRyman I have the SI in my hands, dated April 11,1988. On the cover It says "OH, DANNY BOY! Inside a lot of Wizard of Oz jokes are made.
Earlier games are covered. I found a great quote from Duke’s Coach K yelling to the court, “Take care of the f—ing ball”.
I also have the KC Star from April 6th. Nothing about the Miracles-so I wonder if KU came up with that.
@wissoxfan83 At misery pre-med their course synopses selection reads as follows:
course 301 Death is the number 1 killer in the world.
course 303 Life is sexually transmitted.
course 309 Good health is the slowest rate to die.
course 401 Aging, don’t fret-doesn’t last that long.
Profound educational enlightenment for sure.
drgnslayr last edited by drgnslayr
1988 Championship game… I was in Delkenheim (a suburb of Wiesbaden), West Germany. At that time, there was an East and a West Germany.
I was fortunate enough to be visiting friends who had access to an American (military) TV channel that aired the championship game. I sat alone in their living room while they slept. I think the game ended after 5am… so I had to manage by stuffing pillows in my mouth to stay quiet.
After our victory I left their house through their backyard, into an open field and just kept walking… until I was far out of reach of any houses… and I let out my loudest scream!
Wishawk last edited by
@drgnslayr President Reagan, “Mr. Gorbachev, tear down this wall!”
That was the end of an era. And the following year, we won the Championship!
@wissoxfan83 I was a junior then. And, I was responsible for some of the mess on the trees.
I think it was the KU championship that led to the dismantling of the wall! It ended communism!
RockChalkinTexas last edited by RockChalkinTexas
##In RIO’s words:##
Though he now plays for the Miami Heat, Mario Chalmers will never forget his days fishing in the Land of the Midnight Sun.
Originally published in SLAM 177
by Abe Schwadron
SLAM: Tell us about your hometown.
Mario Chalmers: Anchorage is a big city in Alaska, but it’s a small town. Everybody knows everybody. It’s friendly, a lot of snow, great places to eat. We’re big on seafood, big on fishing. It’s a great outdoors spot. I love the outdoors, hunting, fishing, stuff like that. That’s what I grew up on. Once, me and my dad were fishing on the Russian River. And a bear was just in the middle of the river, fishing himself, trying to find some food. We were sitting there watching him and I was just amazed.
SLAM: No video games?
MC: Oh yeah, I played a lot of video games, too. My favorite of all time is Super Mario. That’s what I grew up on, and of course my name is Super Mario. That’s been my favorite since I was a kid. And now with my son, we love playing video games together, like Skylanders SWAP Force.
SLAM: What about now, what games do you play? Are you a Xbox or Playstation guy?
MC: I play both. I play 2K14, of course Call of Duty, and I’m a big FIFA guy. Those are the three main games I play right now.
SLAM: Who’s the best gamer on the Heat?
MC: Well, now that Joel Anthony is gone, I’d have to take the crown as the best right now. He was the best at Call of Duty. But all the other games, I think I’m the best.
SLAM: Were there important places from your childhood that helped your development as a basketball player?
MC: Fairview Rec Center was the rec center in Anchorage. That’s where everybody went to play basketball. Anybody who played basketball in Anchorage, that’s where they wanted to play basketball at. That’s where I really developed my skills and developed my mentality.
SLAM: And your dad was in the Air Force. Did you play on the base a lot?
MC: Yeah I definitely played on the base. I met Ray Allen when I was about 8 years old when my family was stationed in South Carolina. Both of our dads were stationed together and played on the same team. They were teammates. Ray was older than me, but every time I’d go to the gym I’d see him there and I would play basketball with him. So even at a young age, I was playing against older guys, working out with guys like Ray Allen. That’s how I perfected my skills, by playing against the older kids.
SLAM: If you’re a kid in Alaska, what NBA team do you root for?
MC: For me, it was the Chicago Bulls. I was always a big Michael Jordan fan. But it was all scattered, with people from different places, different military bases, so basically they’d root for the teams from where they were from.
SLAM: What do you tell guys when they ask about coming up in Alaska?
MC: Yeah, guys ask me, Where did I come from? How did I get interested in basketball? And how did anybody ever find me in Alaska? So basically what I tell them is my whole family played basketball, I played AAU, which was a big part of my life growing up, and that really helped me get to where I am today.
SLAM: Is basketball different in Alaska?
MC: It wasn’t too different, but we didn’t have a lot of big guys in Anchorage. I think the tallest person was 6-8, maybe, that I played with. When we went to the lower 48, guys were 7-foot, 7-1, stuff like that, so I think the biggest difference was just the size of the bigs.
##SLAM: How did you end up at Kansas?
##MC: That was an interesting process. I wanted to go to North Carolina. I grew up a fan, my family is from North Carolina and I always wanted to be a Tar Heel. When the time came to make my decision, North Carolina didn’t offer me. So Kansas, I thought, was the best place for me to go out there and shine. I had a couple friends that I got close with during the recruiting visits. They made me feel at home, made me feel like a brother.
##SLAM: You made one of the biggest shots in Tournament history in the 2008 National Championship game. Where does that moment rank for you compared to your two NBA titles?
##MC: It’s up there. I’d say it’s a tie, really. In college, it’s one game, in the NBA, it was five games and then it was seven games. It’s different, but it still ranks the same in my book. Just the process of being there three years, and having to go from one year losing in the first round to losing in the Sweet 16 and then finally to win it. I just remember how much hard work we put in.
##SLAM: Besides that particular shot, what sticks out in your mind from that team?
##MC: Just the process of being there three years, and having to go from one year losing in the first round to losing in the Sweet 16 and then finally to win it. I just remember how much hard work we put in.
SLAM: So you went from Alaska to Kansas to Miami. That’s a nice weather upgrade.
MC: Oh, I love the weather in Miami. I wish it was warm like this growing up, instead of all that snow.
SLAM: How was your visit to the White House this year?
MC: It was great. That was my third time being there. I went once with Kansas, and once when we won the first time. But this time was a more special one, because I got my own personal shout out from Barack. He says he always has my back.
My father was stationed in Alaska during the Korean War. As a 50 year celebration I bought him a ticket to join us on vacation in Anchorage. Dad was a big KU fan and knew who Mario the recruit was when he got on the plane in Kansas City. The first thing dad did when he got off the plane at the Anchorage airport was point Mario out and tell me all about him. We debated about walking up to him, but decided not to thinking it might be illegal for an alum to speak to him??? Anyway Mario inked with KU, and were there to see his shot in San Antonio. A great full circle
Virgil_Caine last edited by
Haha, I think Mario needs to update his resume…they made the Elite 8 his sophomore year!
@JayhawkRock78 cool story!!!
RockChalkinTexas last edited by RockChalkinTexas
Sorry posted the Mario story not realising it was about 88. I bought 2 tshirts , wore one proudly and it has several holes from all the washing thru the years and have never wore the other one. Did the same thing in 08.
I was at the Richmond game too Jhawkrock78. I went with Dr. Randall’s brother who I work with. Got my picture taken with the Morri twins, Tyrel, Brady, Withey, TRob, Tyshawn and EJ and the whole team signed my hat at their hotel after the game.
I am jealous. I was so glad I passed on the VCU game. I hope you did too. Hard to believe that squad played so well and so poorly the same weekend.
RockChalkinTexas last edited by
@JayhawkRock78 I didn’t get to go to VCU but thought they looked past them and did too much talking. When we were walking out after the Richmond game, most VCU fans told us we were going to beat them and were wanting to sell their tickets.
Crimsonorblue22 last edited by JayHawkFanToo
Mario Little update
@Crimsonorblue22 thanks crimson. He passed this December and I miss talking ku bBall with him after every game. At least we got to go to late night at the PHOG this year. That’s my best last memory.
Crimsonorblue22 last edited by Crimsonorblue22
@JayhawkRock78 you are super blessed!
JayHawkFanToo last edited by
Thanks for the Mario Little link. Interesting they talk about his defense, something he learned from Coach Self, no doubt. Hopefully he can take his improvement to the Summer League and maybe get a cal from a NBA team.
@JayHawkFanToo him and Tyshawn!! As long as we’re wishing, wish Sherron could get his act together!
RockChalkinTexas last edited by
Mario just tweeted this. HE REMEMBERS.
##6 years ago on this day we had a major accomplishment. Not only for ourselves and KU but for the entire city of Lawrence, Kansas. This is and will always be apart of me. ROCK CHALK JAYHAWKS
(which is a picture of his shot and his celebration)
@RockChalkinTexas Thanks for posting that. My wife framed that photo for me.