Next year
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This is a coping thread. If you want to focus on this year, feel free to do that.
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@BShark I love that roster and all the sixe but I would like it better if we could get Langford.
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HawkChamp said:
@BShark I love that roster and all the sixe but I would like it better if we could get Langford.
I donât think itâs possible to have Vick and Langford. Itâs loaded either way.
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Since Langford is a rent a player I would rather have Vick. The impact is only for next year, so itâs better to have the SR player that knows the system well.
Hell if OAD gets blown up, Langford might be straight to the NBA.
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@BShark yes but is he an upgrade over Vick?
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Langford is a better player long term but for one season under Self I think Iâd take Vickâs SR year. It will be interesting to see how things shake out.
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@BShark ok thank you for the intel. Iâm not as up on recruiting as I should be.
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HawkChamp said:
@BShark ok thank you for the intel. Iâm not as up on recruiting as I should be.
Langford shoots the crap out of the ball. He doesnât generally defend as he isnât interested in defense. He has the rep of someone that can âcoastâ a bit on that end. Allegedly Calipari wasnât all that interested because of that.
Heâs an NBA talent though and a kid you take if he wants to come here.
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@BShark the no defense part leaves me a bit skeptical then. The last thing next yearâs team needs is a loafer that would fit in with this yearâs squad. Uggh doesnât sound appealing. I suppose Zion is out of the question?
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@HawkChamp Read so many different things there. Clemson seems to be the favourite currently. I certainly wouldnât give KU high chances.
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@HawkChamp If we still had Frank we would be singing a different tune right now. I guarantee it. NO player, guard or big at KU in the Self era has been tougher than Frank. Not one.
That said, I agree with your sentiments in a way. I think we need to temper our expectations for this team. I still believe they can win the Big 12 with time and some Self coaching up. But, thatâs about as far as I am willing to go at this point.
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@Lulufulu My expectations have been severely tempered. Winning the Big 12 will be greatly challenged with this roster plus Cunliffe. I have seen at least a dozen guards in our conference that will drive to the basket at will against us. Plus many of them shoot very well from three, which we can not seem to guard at all. Keeping the conference streak going will be more of a challenge than I can remember for many years. Hoping the guys will start playing with tons of pride and grit. I am sure they do not want to be the team that breaks the streak. Lots of pressure!!!
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BShark said:
HawkChamp said:
@BShark based on the first nine games, what are the odds Dok stays? He isnât really even on any draft boards.
Not sure. We are already oversigned by 1 though and Self has talked about wanting to add more players.
If we see only Newman and Billy go early and add a random, non-contributing/developmental recruit, that would be pretty awesome.
Dotson, Grimes, Vick, Dedric, Doke
Bench: KJ, Garrett, Silvio, McCormack, Cunliffe, Mitch
Yeessssh.
What other players could we sign besides Langford?
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@BShark also, do you think there is a strong enough connection between Dotson and Williamson that could possibly lead to his commitment to KU?
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NEXT YEAR?
WOW.
I mean, Iâm bummed out, ticked off and disgusted too, but NEXT YEAR? Thatâs a bit extreme, I think.
How about we forget about NEXT YEAR and just look forward to football season?
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@HawkChamp I donât miss Tyshawn.
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HawkChamp said:
BShark said:
HawkChamp said:
@BShark based on the first nine games, what are the odds Dok stays? He isnât really even on any draft boards.
Not sure. We are already oversigned by 1 though and Self has talked about wanting to add more players.
If we see only Newman and Billy go early and add a random, non-contributing/developmental recruit, that would be pretty awesome.
Dotson, Grimes, Vick, Dedric, Doke
Bench: KJ, Garrett, Silvio, McCormack, Cunliffe, Mitch
Yeessssh.
What other players could we sign besides Langford?
It would be someone not on the radar right now.
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I miss Chalmers. Chalmers and Arthur on this team would be nice. Chalmers and Devonteâ on the same team would be fun.
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Neither Chalmers nor Graham are natural PGs. Chalmers did not play PG at KU and had to adapt in the NBA.
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@JayHawkFanToo Right, but his defense was fantastic and he has a killer instinct that this team desperately needs.
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I would rather have RussRob instead of Chalmers playing with Devonte.
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@JayHawkFanToo To each their own.
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Chalmers and Devonte are/were similar players in college; RussRob would complement Devonte betterâŚin my opinion.
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@Big-Clyde52 I understand your concerns. I just have a hard time believing that Coach Self wont have them ready for battle by then. I expect the conference race to be tight but I expect that Coach will have them peaking by then
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In doing some light internet stalking of Dan D, trying to see if anyone else complained or explained his comments about the smell inside Allen Fieldhouse, I came across this article, claiming Kansas was a shoo-in for the Final 4 in 2014-2015: http://www2.kusports.com/news/2015/feb/05/experts-say-ku-final-4-shoo-/
I then looked at the roster for that year⌠Every time I look at rosters of old, Iâm amazed at how we did anything special that year, let alone have the heads vote 100% for us âmost likely to make it to the Final 4â. The panel consisted of: Jay Bilas, Dan Dakich, Sean Farnham, Fran Fraschilla, John Gasaway, Goodman, Seth Greenberg and Joe Lunardi.
http://www2.kusports.com/mens_basketball/roster/2014_15/
I have a feeling that next year, with the undisputed preseason talent that will be on our team, the talking heads will all fall in line talking up Kansas. Theyâll have to.
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@approxinfinity Notice at the bottom of that link is a blurb about Malik Newmann visiting 5 schools, but not MSU where he first ended up.
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@approxinfinity Actually, it wasnât as strong an endorsement as it looks from the headline. âShoo-inâ does not appear anywhere in the story, just the headline. Each member of the panel was asked to name 12 teams they âwould not be surprisedâ to see make the final four. KU, UK, Gonzaga, Wisconsin, and Arizona all were named by every member of the panel. So, five teams were 100 % choices to be among the 4 teams left, so by the headline 5 teams were shoo-ins for 4 slots. I would like these surveys to be a bit more discriminatoryâsay, name the final 4 and then break down the responses. 12 is ridiculous.
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Good point. Well they got Kentucky and Wisconsin right I guess. Two out of the non-commital forve ainât bad.
