@jaybate-1.0 Off days are when you don’t shoot well, this wasn’t an off day. It was a stand around like bunch dead beats for over half the game. Effort has to be a constant, end of story. Self has not gotten these guys by in at this point. Sadly how could you not be fired up to a conference game at AFH at the 120th anniversary of KU basketball with tons of former players that left sick as a dog. Self said that is the least competitive rebounding in the first half that he has ever seen since being involved with basketball, which I said before he did and completely agree. I feel like throwing up everytime I think about how we can’t play hard.