And Now for the Trifecta of 3 in 6



  • @JayHawkFanToo

    “Texas is the Al Gore of sports,”

    PHOF! I love it.

    And they’re the Don Rumsfeld of sports, too!!!



  • @JayHawkFanToo

    What the hell! Let’s be fair and balanced.

    Texas is the whole Tea Party of sports.

    And to include the radical left…

    Texas is the Leon Trotsky of sports.

    Texas is the Norman Thomas of sports.

    Texas is the Sockless Jerry Simpson of sports.

    And to include the Radical independents…

    Texas is the Ross Perot of sports.

    Now, don’t get upset Texans, @JayHawkFanToo and @jaybate 1.o are just having some fun here. No one in Texas would join the Tea Party, or become Trotskyites, or Thomas Socialist Party folks, Simpson Populists, or Perotistas.

    By gosh, Texans are too level headed.



  • So @jaybate-1.0 given that Texas was pretty much a unanimous pick to stop the Kansas streak this year, how much longer are the powers that be gonna stand behind Barnes and his under achieving?



  • One thing from today’s game that we rarely ever talk about … our inbounds plays. Opportunities for free points. Every coach, college, high school, AAU, pee wee, should DVR our games. Plagiarism is legal in basketball. Self always has the best, most aggressive inbounds plays from under the basket. What I like best about them is that they are not always quick hitters. Some take time to develop.

    A few items from today’s game that were positive – 1) Ellis’ work on the board. Ellis is quietly improving his rebounding from last season. It’s not that he dominated the boards, but 12 rebounds was pretty darn solid. 2) Oubre didn’t press it offensively. I never get the sense that Oubre is trying to force his shot. He seemed content today to let other guys score, and hit the boards hard like usual. The best rebounder on the team. 3) We shot three pointers with a lead. Sitting 2/10 from three at the break, I was concerned we’d shut down with a lead. But we did manage 7 threes in the second half, and percentages started to even out with 4 makes. It’s crucial for us to stay aggressive with leads – meaning, continue to play to our strengths.

    Now the real good stuff. Astounding quote – Did anyone see what Self said after the game?

    “Historically we want to play inside-out early, but this is not an inside-out team,” Self said. “So we want to play through Perry as much as we can to work back inside.”

    Damn right it’s not an inside-out team. I never thought this moment would actually arrive. Where coach Self would utter those words. We’ve heard Self in post game interviews, at half time, and in press conferences continually talking about playing inside-out.

    From the man himself, “this is not an inside-out team.” Yes, coach, we know. Now run with it. We’ll gladly follow.



  • @jaybate-1.0

    No, no, no…way too complicated. I was simply referring to AL Gore who was anointed president by the press before the election took place much like Texas was anointed Conference Champion before play started, and more importantly, without checking with KU first.

    Al Gore himself said in one of the late night show…I used to be known as the next president of the US. Did not work out well for him then and it is not working out for Texas now. No need to involve any other politicians.



  • @HighEliteMajor So now that Coach has actually said that he agrees with you, was he really telling the boys not to shoot outside against TCU?



  • @HighEliteMajor I did see that quote and immediately thought of you and what your reaction would be. Monday night there will be no subterfuge or saving of fresh legs. The Alexander situation is getting weird though with Jamari playing better. I think the problem with the TCU game is that we’ve been working and thinking about ISU and preparing for them. This game could take ISU put them in a big catch up position. In the meantime WVU keeps smothering other teams.



  • @brooksmd

    If Edward Lansdale were still alive, and I were Rick Barnes, I would be thinking about retiring and moving out of Texas, but not to New Orleans. 🙂

    UT has a dilemma.

    Football is sucking.

    And basketball is sucking.

    They probably would have fired Barnes had football been going good.

    But while football is bad, Barnes can keep basketball just mediocre enough that UT can concentrate on trying to repair football, without basketball becoming better.

    Texas is a complicated place.

    It produced Lyndon Baines Johnson, Bush I, Bush II, and is about to produced Bush III.

    Seriously, I think Rick is safe until after the Presidential election. Everyone in Texas will sit on their hands about everything until they see whether Jeb can be selected, or not.

    After that, Rick will have to begin to sweat. But maybe he can land another bumper crop of Nike recruits and hang one another year.

    In Rick’s defense, we at KU have seen this season (and last) just how fitful it is getting out of the blocks with a lot of young players needing to make decisive contributions.

    It can be done, as Cal and Self have shown. But it will really run up your bill at Hair Club For Men.



  • Ellis seems to have improved because he is now getting the ball away from the basket with some isolation to do his Perry thing. I was fascinated by his fake spin move that drew Gibson out to face up with him and Perry then continued to outmaneuver the shorter player to score easily. Give him some space instead of a Thomas Robinson Down low feed and he will score or get fouled. Except for Gibson who does not jump, K-State is not big and this is where Perry shines. He and Niang have the same game and now Self is giving him room to be that guy.



  • @wrwlumpy On the not shoot threes vs. TCU thing in the second half, you know, I do think he put some rules out there. I rewatched the game. We turned down some decent opportunities in the second half. Mason had some good opportunities and didn’t shoot. It just seemed pretty obvious that we didn’t do what we normally do from three – again, one attempt is evidence of that. Additional evidence is how Self has handled leads before (Utah, OU after the first 2 minutes of the second half, etc).

    I kind of wonder … just wondering … if he saw what happened in letting TCU back in the game and is maybe rethinking slightly. That’s probably a wishful stretch. But we had literally the same situation. Good three point defense as our opponent, but we shot 7 threes.

    We just have never heard him ever come close to uttering that phrase. Ever. It’s a clearly seminal moment in coach Self-speak.



  • @HighEliteMajor

    Howling!

    “So we want to play through Perry as much as we can to work back inside.”

    What the hell does THAT mean exactly? 🙂

    I think Self is still working through some kinks about how the team is going to play it.

    My interpretation of the above quote goes like this: we are an outside shooting team first, but we are going to pass it to Perry outside because he is a big and that is kind of like passing it inside to a big, only its not. 🙂

    Further, just so everyone doesn’t quit guarding us inside completely, we are going to have Perry catch it outside and then look inside and try to drive it inside once, or twice, before we start micro-bursting treys to build our leads.

    Oh my!!! This is turning into the most amusing season yet!!!



  • @jaybate-1.0 Please don’t throw softballs to those who want to talk politics. I have strong views, but I remember Brian Baldinger saying on national TV, “this Jets team is fired up like the Republican party after a Sarah Palin speech.”



  • @wrwlumpy

    Oh, come on, lump, if it weren’t for soft balls, we would have no balls at all. 🙂



  • @jaybate-1.0 Please don’t question it too much – I need this moment of enjoyment. Just imagining Self actually saying, “we’re not an inside out team.” I have to find the audio. I might make it my ring tone. I’m enjoying it way too much.

    The “driving to the basket” Perry vs. the back to the hoop, feed the post Perry, maybe? It is a thoroughly entertaining season, that is for sure.



  • @HighEliteMajor

    Howling!!! Tears rolling down cheeks.



  • @HighEliteMajor said:

    I have to find the audio. I might make it my ring tone.

    PHOF



  • @HighEliteMajor

    It is absolutely fricking amazing to hear him say it; that is for sure.



  • @HighEliteMajor it is pretty obvious, and we all know the truth. You have Bill’s private phone number. Who calls who? Is he friendly?



  • When the rankings come out, you’ll notice that Wichita State has dropped like a prom dress.



  • @wrwlumpy Yeah. A real stumper. WIchita State plays marshmallows, Wichita State wins.

    Wichita State plays a ranked team, Wichita State gets beat.

    Hmmmm.

    By the way - I’m not dogging you - It’s just the first thing I’ve seen today about WSU and - well - I don’t like them.



  • @HighEliteMajor wink I bet everyone here including myself was thinking Coach just made HEM’s day! It made my own day thats for sure.
    You know, it is clear to us and apparently to Coach Self that KU is a trey gunning specialist team the likes of which he has never had. I mean we have 4 guys, FOUR with better than 40% from trey. Perry and Wayne are also shooting a respectable 37ish%.
    SO, with that in mind. I begin to analyze Self’s “not an inside out team” comment. Is it truth? Sure is. Could it also be a subterfuge of some sort directed at ISU and Freddy? You betcha. He knows he only has a day and a half to prep for ISU coming to AFH. Many of you all on here with much better basketball knowledge and experience than I have, have alluded to the fact that Coach Self is a master strategian. ( is that the right word?) Anyways, my point is now Freddy has to wonder to himself," Hey Mr Mayor, how will this next game play out, less than 36 hours before it happens? Will Coach go to his bread and butter inside out game to start off with? Will he put 5 shooters on the floor at one time? Will he use my game against me? Will he play outside in more than 2 min 30 seconds? I have prepped for this game for a few days and now I have to re think my strategy, again.
    What The H#!! is going on here? Add to the fact that we have to spot them 5+ points just for playing in AFH because they are going to be super pissed from the last time we beat them. How about if I just send the real Mayor of Iowa to coach this game and I stay behind to guard the city?



  • @JayHawkFanToo

    “Texas is the Al Gore of sports”

    They invented the game, didn’t they? 🙂

    @wrwlumpy

    It will be interesting to see how much the Shocks fall. But that UNI is a tough team and I’m not hoping we draw them in our bracket again!



  • @drgnslayr

    Ken Pomeroy finally dropped WSU about 5 spots but his ranking of the Big 12 teams still sucks…or blows…or both…



  • @JayHawkFanToo

    The way to send him an “I told you so” is for us to win out in March!

    I also hold out hope for the B12 in March… and usually surprised when other teams don’t show better. We really need some conference help in the tourney this year. Many of our teams are piling up B12 losses but will be scary in March. I think OU could really thump some teams by then. Maybe even Texas will pull their heads out and start playing.



  • @JayHawkFanToo

    Is KENPOM over, or under, ranking B12 teams from your POV. I haven’t checked his rankings recently.



  • @jaybate-1.0

    See my post on the Kem Pomeroy thread…


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