Biden and Vaccines



  • The Biden team saying F the FDA and CDC we’re going to get as many people first doses as possible and not hold any supplies back for the second dose is a welcome twist I did not see coming. And a very pleasant surprise. We may kick this thing before summer yet.



  • There have been a lot of doctors saying we are better off giving 1 dose to lots of people (about 80% effective) than giving two doses to half as many people. Having 80ish-M people 95% immunized isn’t as good as 150m+ 80% immune. 150M can effectively cut off spread in a lot of communities and might save 100k+ lives in the interim.



  • Interesting. On 12/08, the FDA guidelines suggested one dose is about 52% effective after one shot, rising to ~95% after the second shot. Is there updated guidance?



  • Farmer , I hope your right about maybe by Sumer , and maybe for where your at very well could be BUT all I know is what they are telling us here in Shawnee Co , and it’s not good.

    They just had their weekly release , they have a Health score card and last week we had dropped down to 18 which showed decreasing , then BAM this week we spiked back up into the un-controlled, they have a max score on the card of 24 - -and we pegged it we buried it with a 24 score.

    Here in Shawnee County we just set a record of 233 new cases for 1 day , we jumped up 6 points. The Incidedence trend which was in the low zone or decreasing last week jumped back into un-controlled , new cases up 43 % from a week earlier - 42 more deaths. Positive rate went from 9.9 last week to 12.8 this week. Hospital occupancy rate also back over 90 %

    Health Officials say 86 % of cases in Shawnee Co had no known source of infection. - The WHO just now said that they believe there is now a New Contagious variant in 8 States that is different then the strain in the UK.

    So I’m really not holding much hope for things to be better by Summer



  • Should’ve ordered more a long time ago!



  • @Crimsonorblue22 said in Biden and Vaccines:

    Should’ve ordered more a long time ago!

    For sure! The Israelis got this right. They have more doses than arms rn 😂



  • Why would we order 200 million more guaranteed [or no payment] vaccines from Pfizer, when we could wait a year longer for companies that worked within the constructs of Trump’s Project Warp Speed, so that our Lord and Saviour Trump could claim credit for our Salvation?



  • @approxinfinity said in Biden and Vaccines:

    Why would we order 200 million more guaranteed [or no payment] vaccines from Pfizer, when we could wait a year longer for companies that worked within the constructs of Trump’s Project Warp Speed, so that our Lord and Saviour Trump could claim credit for our Salvation?

    Idk but I’m unbelievably happy the major winner in all this rejected the bounds of a typical center-left PPP and went balls to the wall risking its own money and reputation to develop the best vaccine it could in record time. It’s a wonderful thing.


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