Inner City "Culture"
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HighEliteMajor said:
And here’s the suspect arrested for the mass shooting of 13 in Chicago. National outrage or just another night in the inner city?
I have no way of verifying this, but when I lived in Houston from 1979 - 1987, there was one hospital there (Ben Taub Hospital) that reported treating an average of 50 gunshot victims - per day. That number could be skewed from 30+ years having gone by, but it was an incredible number. Although, at the time the Metro Houston population was around 4,000,000 - so I guess that only comes out to .0000125 %. Still a lot of shooting goin on. Even for Texas.
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approxinfinity said:
@HighEliteMajor did you ever watch The Wire? If you haven’t you absolutely must. No excuses. It frames the inner city violence / drug epidemic in Baltimore from all sides. 1 season focuses on drug dealing in the projects and the police trying to crack down. 1 season focuses on foreign trafficking through the ports. 1 on the politics. 1 on the schools in the inner city. 1 on the media’s relationship. Everyone on set saw it as their duty to portray the situation as realistically as possible. Almost 100% of the cast were not trained actors. It stands alone.
Easily a top 5 tv show of all time.
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@HighEliteMajor yup! Watched all 8 (I think) seasons of The Shield. Good stuff.
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@HighEliteMajor if you watch The Wire, if you want company, let me know and I’ll watch it at the same time (for the 3rd time). Would love to discuss. So good!
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@approxinfinity ok I will.
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@HighEliteMajor I just read your list of changes you are willing to pay tax dollars for. The last few days have been chaotic so I needed a moment of down time.
I like where your heart is at. I think there are some obstacles that would be very difficult to overcome here.
Here’s a supplemental list of thoughts:
- Public perception of these things needs to change first.
- Like you said, reaching out to the Churches is key. But I’d also like to see non-denominational outreach organizations receive tax dollars to expand their outreach For example, I saw an interview with a lady who I think runs a drum and dance corps for kids that meets up before school and practices in the streets in Chicago (I think). She was awesome. Cared deeply.
- Outreach requires marketing, and I’d like to see an organized modern marketing campaign unifying these outreach programs.
- having children participate in sports is crucial as well to understand healthy competition, teamwork and sportsmanship and i would love see sports more accessible to all kids. If the public facilities and equipment to host a larger volume sports is not available it should be invested in. Participation fees and equipment costs may need to be supplemented.
- I once dreamed of buying up old buildings in the projects and converting them into a “church of music” where people congregate to play music with one another. Equipment, and room provided, in some case lessons. Meetup with other musicians playing other instruments and jam. Day or night. I think something like this could be amazing. Also recording time and possibly production and selling of music. This could be really massive.
I guess I find the case for providing compelling alternatives to gang participation and violence the most important thing. Protect, fund, and market for the right people. Good meaningful work is created too. Lift the inner city culture up from within.
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@HighEliteMajor @approxinfinity very good points. I’ve lived in two places in my life, the inner city and in the middle of nowhere. First thing I’d do is close the liquor stores that are around every corner. These folks don’t need the temptation of spending money there. Secondly we need to stop putting people in jail for non violent crimes. The system is a joke and no one gets rehabilitated, the prisons want them back to make money. Nearly 80% of inner city kids live off of single parent income. That’s a major issue itself. Jobs, lots of jobs, think if LeBron James or one of these celebs that claim they care lobbied for NIKE or someone to put a plant there instead supporting oppression in China. There will always be some people living below the poverty line unfortunately but when the stuff we brought at the store was made in this country it paid dividends. Be the change you want to see in the world.
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Conceal Carry stops shooting by thug - https://www.google.com/amp/s/abc7chicago.com/amp/lansing-hooters-shooting-causes-panic/5791432/
Conceal carry stops robbery by thug - https://abc7chicago.com/video-woman-with-concealed-carry-license-fatally-shoots-would-be-robber-in-fernwood/5034294/
Leftists don’t want us to be able to defend ourselves with our guns.
Why vote for Trump? Why can I vote for a guy that personally turns my stomach? One of the reasons - Because he won’t do that. Warren, Bernie, et. al. - they will.
Policy over personality.
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38 shot last weekend in Chicago. No crimes committed by legal gun owners.
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Outrageous. Felon. Should be in prison.
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You know, someone else’s fault
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Weird. Black rappers always seem to be in the middle of this stuff. And shot by their bruthas. Hard to fathom. Rock and rollers? Not so much.
Sick, perverted culture of violence. No morals. No parents. No faith to guide them.
New Orleans - https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nola.com/news/crime_police/article_62d8ce16-28ee-11ea-b2bb-e35fb688c6b9.amp.html
Toronto - https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/25/americas/bvlly-christmas-eve-death-trnd/index.html
Jacksonville - https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/19/us/rapper-xxxtentacion-killed-indictment/index.html
LA- https://www.cnn.com/2019/03/31/us/nipsey-hussle-los-angeles-shooting/index.html
Detroit - https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.detroitnews.com/amp/2079234001
New York -
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2019/12/18/nyregion/tekashi-69-sentenced.amp.html
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Good folks that want this to stop. Will anyone focus on the culture that melds this disrespect for life?
“Too many young people are losing and have lost their lives,” said Rayon Dansberry, a spokesperson for Hearts Of A Safe House, the organization that sponsored Friday’s march. “We are tired of seeing young black men and women lying dead in the streets of East St. Louis, Washington Park, Cahokia and surrounding communities.”
This quote can apply to every major inner city.
“We have to talk to the young people and we have to listen to what they have to say,” he said. “We have to show them love and teach them the importance of loving each other even though they are not birth brothers and sisters.”
Uh, culture change. Value life.
Odd, but the white kids in poor areas aren’t shooting each other at alarming rates. No roving white gangs.
Does anyone really care about these black deaths? Dems only use it to attack gun ownership. Republicans ignore it. Aren’t these lives equal to those in white suburbia?
It’s sickening.
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This one made me particularly mad … amoral thug.
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@HighEliteMajor the 38 people shot by unlawful gun owners is part of the reason I’m against gun control. We need to find out how to keep them outta the hands of some people but if the try to disarm everyone, only criminals will have them. The police ain’t gonna go to east St. Louis, Compton, South Chicago or Detroit to get these guns because they don’t have anywhere near the fire power. I live and graduated high school in a small town, most of guys had guns in our trucks during school to go bird hunting afterward. I’d say upwards of 90% of folks in this area own fire arms but shootings are pretty much non existent. Teaching kids not only the value of life but fire arm safety is needed.
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Lovely St. Louis - a sampling highlighted today. Now I suppose there could be rogue suburban invaders that perpetrated these crimes. I’m kind of guessing not -
https://www.google.com/amp/s/fox2now.com/2019/12/22/man-critically-injured-in-jennings-shooting/amp/
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Look at the list above. Is this a “mass shooting”? This is horrific. Yet a gunman shooting 7, killing 3 at an art festival would get the national attention.
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So I looked up art festival … found a shooting in NJ. 22 people shot. Gang dispute. June of 2018.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2018/06/17/nyregion/trenton-mass-shooting.amp.html
https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/17/us/new-jersey-art-festival-shooting/index.html
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From 2003 - Quite the insight. Now it’s just how the inner city black culture molds its youth. We accept it. Racist if we challenge this garbage. It’s part of the culture that leads to disgusting acts of violence. Period.
“The attitude and style expressed in the hip-hop “identity” keeps blacks down. Almost all hip-hop, gangsta or not, is delivered with a cocky, confrontational cadence that is fast becoming—as attested to by the rowdies at KFC—a common speech style among young black males. Similarly, the arm-slinging, hand-hurling gestures of rap performers have made their way into many young blacks’ casual gesticulations, becoming integral to their self-expression.”
https://www.city-journal.org/html/how-hip-hop-holds-blacks-back-12442.html
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Major news … meanwhile see our inner cities.
https://www.cnn.com/2019/12/29/us/church-shooting-texas/index.html
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Not a suburban custom.
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Five shot and killed New Year’s day in St. Louis. More wounded.
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https://www.kcpd.org/media/news-releases/five-houses-struck-by-celebratory-gunfire-on-new-years-eve/
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Here’s a “culture” that is murderous, unlawful and amoral. But consider the degree. Lots of horrific acts by all sorts of people. The inner city violence is like an elephant and other areas like Hell’s Angels is like a rat. One has overwhelming volume.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/new-hells-angels-clubhouse-in-new-york-city-sprayed-with-gunfire
See the norm below. From Oakland. Inner city thugs kill over a f-ing laptop. Sick.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/suspects-charged-oakland-starbucks-laptop-theft
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Folks have “had enough” … of bicyclists at risk. Worthy of KC Star priorities. How many bicyclists are killed in a year vs murder and maiming?
https://amp.kansascity.com/opinion/editorials/article238905568.html?__twitter_impression=true
https://amp.kansascity.com/news/local/article238906893.html?__twitter_impression=true
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@BShark I know a Gabe.
