GRAYSON ALLEN IS A DIRTY PLAYER
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Grayson Allen is a clunky player, when comparing to the athletes in the NBA. I watched the Duke-UNC game, and kept thinking that Mason and DG actually shut Grayson down for most of that KU-Duke game.
Grayson is a good college player. But will he really be a good NBAer? JJRedick was better. Kirk Hinrich was better. I’d bet on Ron Baker over Grayson in the NBA. Baker is a bit more fast-twitch. Proving he can play with Knicks.
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@ralster it’s hard to assess his physical talent level when he is so clearly nuts. Imagine interviewing a job candidate that you know liked to routinely trip people around the office at his last job.
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@Blown if you don’t believe there is a vast difference in character between Grayson Allen and Josh Jackson then I’m not sure there’s much of a point in going through the differences or lack there of as we see them, but I’ll try.
Grayson trips, elbows, and pushes opposing players near every game he is in, often putting them in positions where they might seriously get injured. He throws tantrums on the bench, and walks through opposing huddles, resulting in shoving matches. He flails his arms and falls to the floor on drives routinely trying to solicit whistles. In the most clutch moments of the game, Grayson is anything but. He wilts under pressure. Grayson is universally reviled by the opposing fans and the nation. The only people in his camp are his mother, his coach, maybe a few teammates, and Ted Cruz. He is an embarrassment to Duke basketball.
Josh Jackson never plays dirty. His ONE incident involved kicking a car in support of a teammate he thought was mistreated. On the court, he is passionate but has figured out his freshman year staying under control when on the floor. In clutch moments of the game, he dunks over people, hits big shots, locks down on D and finds open teammates. He is a star and beloved by his fans, teammates and Coach. He is humble and respectful with fans off the court. All indications point to him being a good guy and solid embassador for the university.
These two kids are in most respects polar opposites.
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Serena could beat up Sugar Ray Leonard.
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Serena could beat other female players but she is no match for a male athlete, not even in tennis.
Remember Chyna, the female wrestler that was built like a tank? She was handily defeated by one old and out of shape Joey Buttafuoco of the “Long Island Lolita” fame.
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You are joking, right? Bobby Riggs was a an old, retired player playing for kicks and giggles while Billie Jean King was one of the top 2 or 3 female players in the world at that time. Remember that Bobby Riggs beat Margaret Court before that, who was at the time the top ranked female tennis player in the world, if I remember correctly.
As far as the William sisters, it has been done and it was not even close…a German player not even ranked in the top 200 beat both sisters back to back… and that was after playing a round of golf in the morning and having a big lunch with several beers.
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Yeah… He put Jay Bilas in a tough spot… committing rough contact that Jay detests. But he is wearing a Duke uniform… Jay’s team.
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Respectfully.
First and foremost, I never went into a full-blown character comparison between the two players. All I said was “we have players who like to kick things, too”. That is nothing more than a certain fact.
Secondly, my eldest plays traveling ball with one of Apples’ college teammates, so I hear nothing but good and respectful things about Josh. So as far as a personal character assassination, I have none.
But what I am tired of is posters on this board who continuously call out the faults of other teams, coaches, and programs and then make up imaginary lines that our players don’t cross in order to be able to stand up for them and say “they are different.”
Here is what we know: Josh chased after a female and kicked her car. Vick 'more than likely" kicked the same woman in the face. Hence, It is not unfair for me to say that “our players like to kick things, too.”
Stick up for our team and program all you want. But when you fail to hold our program and players accountable, and discredit others it gives the opinion that we might be a tad bit hypocritical.
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@Blown so the star saying “more than likely” is a fact?
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@JayHawkFanToo your right compared to your Chyna vs Joey Buttafuoco, I was way off with Billy Jean vs Bobby Riggs. I had to look up Chyna, I stopped watching WWF in the 70s.
looks like Hudy trained her.
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I have to say that there is no evidence to prove that either Vick or Jackson “like” kicking anything other than opponent’s butts on the basketball court…and they do the later very well. In fact, there is no evidence that I know that Vick kicked anyone; it that had in fact happened, I would have been a very serious offense and charges likely filed. This sound like the “Bragg threw me down the stairs” story when in fact he was protecting himself and she fell back on the stairs going down all of 18 inches and, unless the laws of gravity work differently in Lawrence, she did no fall any further than that.
We pretty much know that Jackson did kick the door and tail light but I will guess that he probably did not “like” it, and based on the consequences of that act, unlikely he will ever do it again.
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@Blown I think we might be arguing semantics. I’m glad you hold Josh in high esteem. I don’t feel like these guys like to kick things. To me to “like to kick things” would mean that they have no remorse for their actions and would gladly do what they did again. Like Grayson Allen “likes to trip people”. But maybe we are looking at this thing from different angles. I can appreciate that we should be honest about the things our players do. I just see Allen and Coach K as being fundamentally different.
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Grayson= pattern of behavior. Track record. Priors.
Josh and Vick= act of indiscretion, poor judgement. As far as we know, not a pattern of behavior from either one, nor any priors. Yes they are wrong for acting how they did, but have they learned since? Made restitution? Apologized?
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Grayson throwing his head back pretending he got hit in the head on that no-contact play reminded me of this guy…
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Thanks for posting that. I had not seen it before and it make me laugh.
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I’ll match it and raise it…
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It’s like he had to make sure there was a soft patch of floor to land on. Hahaha
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Forget Grayson. I hate Duke.
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@wissox there is a reason duke rhymes with puke!
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Ha ha. Thats pretty f-in horrible too. I hadnt seen that one before either. Thanks for the chuckles, good sir.
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Yep. You have to see it to believe it…
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I respected Allen for diving for balls during the Wisconsin championship game. I went from respect to disrespect ever since.
The guy can play… but all the other crap makes him unwatchable.
He just looks like a guy that needs to get beat up badly once to change his attitude and respect others. I know that is “old school” talking so I apologize to anyone that might be offended by that statement.
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I hadn’t seen that one before either, pretty funny!
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When I was a little kid, I had my bike stolen 5 times. It was my one big thing, and I would keep it locked. But my neighborhood sucked.
After my all-time favorite bike was stolen, someone tipped me off that a neighborhood bully had done it. I immediately went to his house and saw my bike. Before I took it home I cleaned the bully’s clock right in front of his mother. The strange thing… she didn’t even try to stop me! I think she appreciated what I did.
Almost 35 years later I saw him again, at my high school reunion. He thanked me for kicking his butt. He said that one time totally changed him and his life. He realized how he was hurting other people and he changed.
I’m not trying to advise people to revert to violence in any way. But it is amazing how some of these situations end up producing positive results. I’m sure it also works more often to produce negative results.
Grayson Allen needs a reset. Getting beat up is one way to have a reset. Big illnesses and other hardships can do the same thing. Something needs to happen for this kid to “get it” and start focusing just on playing the game only.
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Think about it…he is first team All American…
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Allen is a triptomaniac. The urge to trip someone is overwhelming as a psychosis. He has a strange fetish to trip someone or even flop as to appear tripped. This is what triptomaniacs do and it’s just bizarre behavior for an individual.
Grayson Tripto Allen
