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I watched the game D2 championship game yesterday between Northwest Missouri State and Point Loma. Congratulations to the Bearcats. But I thought one player–Daulton Hommes of Point Loma–was impressive. Would like to see him transfer to KU for his senior season.

@HighEliteMajor Before I looked into all the history of the program, I was kinda hopeful that a new coach could come in and turn it around. But I didn’t realize that, in the last 60 years, every coach except Mangino had a losing record. His was only 50 wins and 48 losses over 8 years. I’m just not real confident that another new coach can make this a respectable program. I have been a fan since I was a kid in the 1950s, so I hope I’m wrong. Also I hope it doesn’t take so long that I won’t be around to see it.

@Woodrow Wrong on all counts. Although I will say it has come to the point that I don’t really care what they do.

@HighEliteMajor As I said previously, I’m not saying Beaty’s the guy. I just think way too much of the blame has been put on him. And people who think a Miles or Doeren, or anyone else is going to all of a sudden make KU a consistent winner–or even a.500 team–is probably going to be disappointed.

I may be wrong but I just don’t think it will happen.

@HighEliteMajor I’m not a fan of Beaty, but neither do I think firing him is a magic fix for KU football. And I don’t know how anyone can believe “Success is on the horizon.”

Prior to this season, I did a review of Kansas football over the past 60 years. Beginning with Jack Mitchell, overall record since 1958 was 268 wins, 393 losses, 14 ties. The winning percentage over that time is .405. With a 12-game schedule that would be 4-5 wins a year. Only nine bowl games, averaging one every 6-7 years. Not what most people would call “success.”

Of the 14 coaches over that timeframe, only Mangino had a winning record (50-48). Regarding Mangino’s team in 2007, the overall record of opponents was 65-87, with only four having a winning record. The record of all Big 12 opponents KU played was 26-38.

They didn’t have to play Texas, Texas Tech, or Oklahoma that year. Generally, three guaranteed losses every year. So I’m not sure that’s the year everyone should be hoping to duplicate.

I don’t think Beaty’s the answer, but neither do I think he’s the reason for continual losing football at KU.

I remember a KU - K State game that went four OTs. In a Big 8 holiday tournament

Our only depth is freshmen and Self doesn’t want them.

@drgnslayr I thought some of our Big 12 championships were flukes too. Like the year when we were playing Texas and Kevin Durant got hurt and couldn’t play in the second half. As I recall, Texas had a huge lead when he left the game. Or the game we won against Oklahoma and Blake Griffin had to sit out the entire game. I don’t think we could have won those games had those two players not been injured. And, without looking it up, I think if we had lost those games, we wouldn’t have won the championship.

I also thought the way we won in 2013 was kinda fluky. We got the benefit of a very questionable call at the end of the Iowa State game. A loss there would have given K-State (I think) the championship.

@HighEliteMajor Maybe it should be said that HCBS is the key.

I think all these players transferring from one school to another is rather disgusting. And commitments and decommitments. I can understand those from VCU or Florida St. that ask for a release of the LOI. But i don’t like it when there are so many decommitments.

I wasn’t aware until this morning that Caleb Swanigan had decommitted from Michigan State. It couldn’t have been more than 30 days ago that he committed to the Spartans. I wonder what he knows now that he didn’t know then. I just read that he has now committed to Purdue.

Maybe we could get Jamari to bring the ball up the court. If i remember correctly, someone mentioned that last year.

Does anyone know who is on the roster for Team Canada? I read that Brady Heslip and Kyle Wiltjer are both from Canada. I wonder if they’ll be at Sprint.

Does anyone know if tickets to the exhibition games against Canada are available yet?

@jaybate-1.0 I don’t know which board rats you’re referring to–maybe I’m one of them–but I don’t consider that someone is complaining just because he/she expresses an opinion about how he/she values national championships more than conference championships. Or expresses an opinion that KU would have more success playing one way instead of another.

@jaybate-1.0 I was just a kid, but that’s probably the reason I liked that team so much. I remember that I bought a scorebook and kept score of the games that year while I listened on the radio. I remember when they lost I to Iowa State, I was so upset I threw the book across the room.

There wasn’t anything better than listening to Max Falkenstein broadcast Kansas basketball. As a kid, I always thought he was saying Max Falken’s team. I haven’t heard anything about him for awhile. I wonder how he’s doing.

@jaybate-1.0 My favorite non-champion was the 1957 team. Lost 3 games that year by a total of 5 points. Losses to Iowa State (when Wilt sat out with the flu), Oklahoma State, and North Carolina in the best championship game ever. Second favorite was 1966 when we lost to Texas Western in the regional.

@drgnslayr Were your Chuck Taylors better than the Montgomery Ward All Stars?

@tundrahok Actually, a couple of them. Walt Wesley was a 2nd team All-American in 1966 who wore #13. Not sure what number Wayne Hightower wore.

@drgnslayr As you put it, Kansas is “in the sticks.” As far as basketball recruiting is concerned, I agree. And it’s tough to get recruits from the East coast–or even the Eastern time zone–to commit to play “in the sticks.”.

We’ve gotten a few blue chippers to play here but it seems it has been a small percentage. Since Roy Williams was from the East, it’s quite possible he realized that his chances to recruit a kid from that area of the country to KU would be minimal, so he focused elsewhere. He’s been lambasted for not recruiting those players, but maybe it’s understandable.

@Kip_McSmithers Can I assume you weren’t impressed by coaches Doug Weaver and Stan Parrish?

@JayHawkFanToo If I were a UCONN fan, I would value the fact that they have had 5 national chamnpionships in the past 15 years more than I would if they had won the conference for 11 straight years. Even though they didn’t win conference those years, they had to have decent records to get to the tourney in the first place.

I have never said it’s not impressive. It’s hard to compare it to UCLA’s streak because they had to win the conference every year just to get in the tournament. Then after they won their conference, they went undefeated through the NCAA for so many years.

It doesn’t appear that top recruits are banging the door down to come make it 12 in a row.

@jayhawk-007 I don’t feel that the 11 is more impressive than a NC either. Or even a FF for that matter.

@JayHawkFanToo I think you’re probably right as of what we think we know right now. But tomorrow morning, he may feel completely different. And once you get them on campus, everything could change. Brandon Rush didn’t want to be in college either, and he lasted 3 years.

@JayHawkFanToo I’m not in any way hoping for Maker. But my thought was that if we can’t fill all our scholarships, there’s the possibility it could work out. It seems like these kids change their minds every few minutes. Maybe the best thing for him would be to go to a D1 school and get exposed, come back for a second year and show what he can do.

@jayhawk-007 I understand what you are trying to say but if that’s the way I felt, I would just be happy with another conference championship. Apparently, that’s not a crapshoot. Or is it?

@jayhawk-007 I would agree that it’s a crapshoot to be NC, but I’m not so sure I agree with your comment that it’s a crapshoot to make the FF. I doubt if fans at UK, Duke, UCONN, or UNC feel that way. I would say to make the FF is a matter of having the talent, using it properly, and being prepared to play.

@SoftballDad2011 I didn’t like that comment either. But you gotta remember this is an 18-year old we’re talking about. Back when RussRob was a freshman and decided he didn’t want to come in one game, I thought there was no way he should come back. But he turned out to be an outstanding Jayhawk.

Let’s say we don’t get Diallo. It appears there are no other bigs available. I know he’s been blasted in the past and some have thought there is no way he’s a KU-type guy. And maybe he’s not. But is there any way that anyone would then consider Thon Maker? Maybe–just maybe–he would get past the clearinghouse and maybe he could be convinced that it might be to his advantage to stay till March 2017.

@HighEliteMajor I don’t want to berate Traylor, but was he recruited only because he went to IMG or was there something else the coaching staff was looking for?

When I brought up Baker, Burks, Ojeleye, etc., I wasn’t meaning to imply that I thought Self should have recruited them. I was just responding to another comment about there not being any good talent in the area. There are a few that turned out to be pretty good. But it does seem this area is usually slim pickings.

@konkeyDong Other area guys: Alec Burks, Ron Baker, Travis Releford, Semi Ojeleye, Harrison Barnes, Ben McLemore, the kid from St. Louis that went to Florida, to name a few. I’m sure I’ve forgotten some, but there are a few more around. If not in Kansas, the bordering states. And it’s not much a farther drive to Kansas City or St. Louis than it is to Wichita.

@JayHawkFanToo after Googling “freshman ineligible rule,” I see that there has been some discussion about it as recently as February 2015.

https://www.insidehighered.com/news/2015/02/23/conferences-weigh-freshman-ineligibility-rule-basketball-players

espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/12349646/big-ten-considering-ineligibility-freshmen

It would be great if all the major conferences would do that. Then maybe teams like UMKC would get the OADs and the 3 and 4 stars would go to the major conferences. That would be great

@JayHawkFanToo The NBA rule doesn’t force anything on CBB. The NCAA just doesn’t do anything about it and wants the NBA Players Union to fix the problem. If the NCAA was really serious about eliminating the OAD, and reinstate the freshman-ineligibility rule, the NBA couldn’t do anything about it. That would force them to draft players who have not been tested. Then those high schoolers who think they are good enough to play pro can either go to the NBDL or somewhere else for a year… I just don’t agree that it’s an NBA problem.

I have a question about OADs that I would ike someone to answer and explain.

Does the NCAA believe that the OAD issue is a problem? From what I’ve read the NCAA thinks it isn’t good for CBB and the NBA will have to fix it. Why can’t the NCAA go back to the way it was 40-50 years ago and declare freshmen ineligible for varsity competition? Or is it a fundamental right for a freshman to play on the varsity?

@JayHawkFanToo I hope that the exposure helps too. But I’m extremely doubtful that it will.

If I were a recruiter for. KU, I would be emphasizing the fact that we’ve been invited to the NCAA 26 straight times, that we have played in 14 Final Fours, that we have played for the championship 6 times–3 in the past 12 years, generally ranked at or near the top, that X number of Jayhawks have made it to the NBA, and that we play on Big Monday frequently.

These kids are about one thing: exposure. They want to get to the League and want to know how KU is going to help them get there. As far as they’re concerned, nothing else matters.

@drgnslayr Maybe I’m in the minority here, but I don’t care about the perception of how we do at the WUG. I couldn’t care less if Josh Pollard and Tyler Self play 30-35 minutes a game and we lose by 40. The world games only matter in how well they prepare the team for March and April 2016. The potential recruits don’t care and neither does anyone else in the U.S. outside of Kansas.

@drgnslayr 11 consecutive conference championships.

Again and again, posters on here have commented about KU getting another conference championship. Now you’re asking “How Bad Can This Get?”

If the most important part of the season is another conference championship, it seems to me that the recruiting concern should be who Iowa State and Oklahoma are getting. And it appears that none of the recruits is anxious to come to Kansas to win another conference championship.

If a conference championship is most important, then no one should be concerned who Kentucky and Duke are getting–and we’re not.

I’m with HEM. The ONLY thing that matters is how far we get in March/April.

@drgnslayr Good article. Based on what Adams said, he should step down. He should have stepped down long ago. If he really thought this play was so critical as to possibly affect the outcome of the game, there is no way he should have let it go.

I don’t think that was the most critical thing–I think it was Wisconsin’s inability to take advantage of every coach’s dream of Okafor being on the bench for much of the game–but it was an ethical lapse on the part of an NCAA official who could have corrected a wrong call and chose not to.

Dave Stallworth started playing at Wichita at mid-semester also. They had one of the best teams in the country in the first semester of his final year. But neither he nor JoJo would have been eligible to play in the NCAA tournament their final years. Wichita went to the Final Four that year (1965) without Stallworth.

@wrwlumpy I agree with you. Jesse has done a great job. I really enjoyed his blog during the basketball season. And reading his comments on here.

Jesse, you’re a class act. Congratulations.

@drgnslayr Nope. Pete never was eligible to be elected. I never was a fan of Pete, but he had a great career. And, if they allow players who used PEDs to be inducted, Pete ought to be inducted too. PEDs were a far worse blight on baseball than anything Pete ever did.

That’s too bad Tyler’s leaving. I was hoping for big things out of him next year.

Don’t forget that Tyler will be back from his redshirt year.

These conference championships are great. But they don’t mean much. And they wouldn’t have meant all that much to UCLA either if they hadn’t won 11 NCAA titles during those 13 years. When people (maybe not some on this board) think about UCLA, they think about NCAA–not conference–championships,

@brooksmd I hope Cliff has been told goodbye as well. But I’d just as soon have an OAD–with the outside possibility that he stays for at least one additional year–as have a grad transfer that is for sure gone after one season.

@brooksmd I don’t think anybody here can point to anything to indicate that any of the OADs have taken it easy so they wouldn’t get injured or do anything to jeopardize their draft status.

Last year, the way Wiggins played in the game at West Virginia certainly didn’t give any indication that he was thinking about next year. I don’t recall seeing anything this year that made me think KO was thinking about the draft. Ben McLemore certainly didn’t. At Texas, Kevin Durant certainly didn’t take it easy. These are 18-year old kids, not middle agers.

Are you saying that it’s only the ones that come to KU that are looking forward to the draft? Or is it all of them?

I’ll cast my vote for an annual home-an-home with WSU as well. I’ve never heard a valid reason for not playing them. Or even Mizzou. Sure beats playing San Diego State or Temple. Makes KU sound like spoiled brats.

And, now that KU is out of it, I hope the Shockers win from here on out.

I’m certainly not the analyst that some of you are. That’s why I enjoy this board so much.

But it seemed to me that once WSU got the lead and control of the game, they kept on attacking, didn’t just try to preserve the lead. Kept shooting threes. Seems that all season long, when KU would get a lead, they’d try to slow it down and preserve it. Blew some large leads throughout the year.

One more thing. The conference streak. It’s nice to talk about but I’m not so sure it’s good. Unless they go back to the time when you had to win conference just to get in the tournament.

I think some of those teams that come in after not being conference champs might feel they have something to prove. Much like UCONN did last year. Or like one of the ACC teams could almost every year. Or like Texas Western did back in 1966. Seems like sometimes they come in with a chip on their shoulder.

@HighEliteMajor HEM, always appreciate your posts. But all year long, it seemed to me that Selden had regressed from a year ago. Also thought Greene didn’t develop much, although that may have had to do with Self’s mid-season remarks. In retrospect, it might have been better for Greene to transfer and AW III to stay. He might have been happy getting the number of minutes Brannen got this year. And probably better D. Never thought Cliff developed much.

They came out of high school highly rated but–if they would re-rate those classes–not so sure they would be ranked so high now or at any time during this year.

I like Self a lot. But I think Danny and Dooley are sorely missed.

@JayHawkFanToo I don’t mind that we could be playing the Shockers. In fact, I’m kinda glad to see it’s possible.
But I agree that WSU should have gotten a better seed.