KANSAS STATE WILDCATS
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One more add: that is a flipping great storm shot over the KSU stadium, whether real or Photoshopped. Congrats.
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Only KSU and Manhattan could put a big tank up behind the Manhattan across the hillside. How flipping low rent is that?
Imagine KU putting a big tank up behind the Campanile?
Sodbusters’R Us.
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@wrwlumpy Thanks. I missed the whole first half after downing some Nyquil. Fighting a bad cold myself. I must have picked it up at the game. Know how he feels. Sucks to be sick.
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@RockChalkinTexas did you catch it from him??? Might have been worth it? Jk!!!
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@jaybate-1.0 That was a scary time. I saw the picture in Sports Illustrated. The game was actually delayed until weathermen decided that any danger had passed.
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@wrwlumpy Good pics lump-you’ve done it again. I played HS FB, BB & BR Baseball with Dickey. Good guy & great all around athlete. He could rocket a FB that’d knock you down, but his flippin fastball was in the 90’s. You stayed real loose in the box against him FDS. Most vivid memory is how those fouls off the feet hurt like all hell. Was back in the day when if you flubbed up & cussed, you were either running laps, PT, or both, OH NO !!
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@wrwlumpy Also while strolling memory lane I gotta share that Cotton Fitzsimmons was one of my all time fav coaches as a young man, & was also NBA COY in 1979 for the Kansas City Kings. Very classy & extremely talented coach & man.
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If I was Self, I’d print that photo of Huggy Bear with his shiner and mount it in our locker room the days leading up to Morgantown. Give the guys plenty to think about.
I’ve been watching blah-basketball tonight. Kentucky vs Mizzou. Kentucky plays some defense but their offense look horrible.
I’m thinking to myself, I kind of think WVU might be a good test for Kentucky. I hope those two get paired in March. Huggy gets to turn Calipari’s world upside down for 40 minutes. The game starts with 3 rough WVU fouls in the first minute, undercutting players and pushing hard. Test the manhood of all those Kentucky trees.
My last thought on the TCU game. A couple of years ago we played bad and we LOST down there. I’m just glad we WON! Sometimes the toughest games to win are against your worst opponents, if for no reason than having problems getting up to play them.
We had just enough in the tank to inch by.
I’m expecting to see the other team we can be on Saturday. This is a bad time to be a purple kitty!
Then we will want to avenge a loss in Ames. I think our guys hold a grudge. I HOPE our guys hold a grudge!
We are in for a couple of nice Jayhawk wins!
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MANHATTAN, Kan. (AP) — Kansas State will likely be without Nino Williams for Saturday’s game against No. 9 Kansas after the starting forward hurt his left knee in a loss to West Virginia. Williams only played 8 minutes in Tuesday night’s game. He spent a few minutes riding a stationary bike before halftime, and then spent the entire second half on the bench. Wildcats coach Bruce Weber said Thursday that Williams sustained a “strain or sprain,” and that he underwent three treatments earlier in the day. There was no structural damage, and Weber said his senior forward would not need surgery. Williams is averaging 11.7 points and 4.9 rebounds per game. He was coming off a 22-point performance in a loss to Iowa State and a 20-point outing in a win over Oklahoma State.
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Bummer. I like Nino’s game and wanted to see the kitties at full strength. I hope he recovers and maybe we see him when we play in Manhattan.
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@drgnslayr or maybe he recovers in time for sat. I like to play a full strength team too.
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The team photo. Svi and Devonte sporting the “Letterman” look with Fashion Risk Frank wearing his best Camo’s.
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@jaybate-1.0 I believe it’s real. A guy that I used to work with was at that game and he had similar, if not even more eerie pictures.
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@Crimsonorblue22 Jaybate once remarked that Self has the luck of a professional gambler that always makes it to the final table. Nino being unable to play brings up some of that luck we’ve experienced throughout the Title runs. Thomas Robinson never had to play against an injured Blake Griffin, Durant sprained his ankle in the second half of a game where he scored the most points ever against a KU team. I forgot the name of the big guy from Ohio State when they played here. I remember Robinson talking to him before the game that he was unable to play in. It takes a great Coach, great players and a lot of luck to win so many consecutive Championships.
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@wrwlumpy said:
I forgot the name of the big guy form Ohio State when they played here
Jared Sullinger. He was healthy when we beat them in the Final 4 that year though
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@wrwlumpy Thanks for the picture. PLEASE don’t take this a some kindof political remark everyone, but it is not often that you see the president in a picture where he looks short! I thought it was amusing.
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@wrwlumpy And notice my boyfriend is wearing glasses!
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@wrwlumpy I said b/4 that if you emailed me I could send you some pictures I took at the UT game so you could post them.
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@RockChalkinTexas My Avatar name plus @yahoo. Thanks, do you live in Austin? Please send them.
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@wrwlumpy Yes live here. Will send when I get back from my lunch.
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@wrwlumpy Upvote for the Liberace photo…
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@wrwlumpy Who is the Playmate?
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The tank has been there a long time as so has the Manhattan sign. Water tanks are usually placed on high ground since you want to distribute water by gravity; not really a lot of hills in that part of the state so you do what you must. BTW, they are both away from campus and not related at all to KSU. Just a quick reference.
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@RockChalkinTexas Love the photo with you and Frank’s Dad. He looks like he was a point guard at some time in his life. Thank you again, nice to put a face with a Bucket person.
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@joeloveshawks Crystal Smith. Miss September 1971. A Kansas City girl that worked in the KC Playboy Club. I had to crop the photo for the Bucket crowd. She might be the Grandmother of HEM’s Redhead.
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@wrwlumpy Are you going to post some of them here on the board? Feel free to.
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@RockChalkinTexas Hey Board Rats, Here’s @RockChalkinTexas with Frank Mason the 2nd.
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@wrwlumpy Frank Mason Jr. is how he signed my picture.
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@RockChalkinTexas I guess he would be a Junior. He’s your age and I’m sure Frank Mason Senior is my age.
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Very, very nice photo! …and not too bad with Frank Jr. Sr., too!
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Hey…no cropping allowed…
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@wrwlumpy Stop that cropping business. Cropping is for sod busting, silage loving purple kitties.
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Reunited
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This element of luck that your raise is so appropriate to introduce into the discussion of Self and all great coaches that have great runs.
John Wooden had lots of luck. One of the things that has bothered me most about those that try to degrade Wooden’s accomplishments is that they try to explain it away by corruption and never by luck. I have always argued that Wooden started winning once he stepped up to the same level of corruption as was then prevalent at many of the basketball schools Wooden had to compete with. But that only created a level playing field for him. Wooden needed sustained excellence and lots of luck to tip the level playing field far in his favor. Wooden got a lot of luck when Walton made 21 of 22 FGAs in a national final game. Why can’t people understand that? UCLA played excellently that game, but Walton’s freakishly peak performance, which has to have had some luck involved in it coming the night it came. was decisive.
Does anyone remember Christian Laettner’s turn around half court desperation shot that won Coach K one of his rings. Pure luck.
You have to be lucky to be great.
It is so self evident.
But people struggle with the notion.
Persons are allowed to be all bad, or all good.
All skill, or all luck.
The way I think of it is like this:
All great persons at anything in any field have vast amounts of skill, vast amounts of work ethic, and vast amounts of luck.
They have all three.
Michael Jordan was just incomparably luck in addition to being incomparably hard working and incomparably talented. He came along for much of his career after Bird’s back prevented him from being great, and Magic’s AIDs took him away from the game. That was incomparable luck for Jordan. How flipping lucky was Jordan to get a coach like Jackson that was a hall of fame that could win rings with Jordan, with Shaq, and with Kobe. Jackson was an insanely great coach, who proved that he didn’t need Jordan to win rings. But Jackson to was incredibly lucky. What other coach had Jordan, Shaq and Kobe? Insane luck. Not something Jackson could plan out. All he could do was seize the opportunities.
Wilt was not so lucky, even though he was incomparably hard working and incomparably talented.
All someone has to do is get to know some world class scientists and you will learn about the importance of luck. The great universities are full of brilliant scientists that put together a great body of work, and are respected by their fellow scientists. But only a few get lucky and discover something of lasting and seminal importance. Some scientists are just lucky at getting good results in experiments. Some scientists are just unlucky. Erwin Shroedinger gets credit for formulating Quantum Mechanics. But there was an American mathematician and physicist that formulated quantum mechanics at the same moment. He was a little late getting his stuff published. He never got credit, even though everyone knew this great American scientist knew as much or more about quantum mechanics than Schroedinger did. Shroedinger was in the right place–Europe–at the right time, and he was the right age with the right constellation of acquaintances. He was lucky. This American scientist was not lucky.
Luck is fracking real.
It is a major, major force in the universe.
No one has really figured out how to formalize it, but it is as real as gravity that no one can figure out either.
Chalmer’s The Shot?
Luck.
Luck for Sherron to make the steal.
Luck for Sherron falling down to get it to Chalmers.
Luck for Chalmers to have enough time.
Luck for Chalmers to make it off balance.
Chalmers had two NBA rings for Chrissakes.
Chalmers is not one of the 10 best players in the NBA.
But Chalmers has 2 NBA rings.
Chalmers is a great basketball player and he is lucky.
When you trying to find a great coach, you are looking for a guy with great talent, great work ethic, and great luck.
Whenever you find such a guy, hire him and be grateful that you guy lucky finding a lucky coach.
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I cannot either.
But if I have learned one thing in this long, fretful, wondrous, adventuresome, tedious, magnificient, mundane life, it is that humans, when confronted with trying to make sense of things, tend to expect today to be like yesterday. They will speculate with wild, ridiculous variance between today and tomorrow. But they really lean toward the present being like what happen last year and the year before.
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Tickets!!!
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@wrwlumpy Man, JoJo looks huge.
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@jaybate-1.0 Shroedinger, he’s the guy with the dead/live cat in a box?
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@JayHawkFanToo not really a lot of hills in that part of the state so you do what you must.
There are hills in Kansas?
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@JayHawkFanToo Hey…no cropping allowed…
I’m thinking objects in the picture look massive and bodacious.
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"Luck is fracking real. "
Luck is fracking real! But you should do everything in your powers to get in that position for luck to come your way.
Mario was in position to have his shot go down. It could have rimmed out, or a Memphis big could have been standing there to contest it and make it harder.
Lots of “ifs.” We get those same “ifs” when things don’t go our way… like our loss to Michigan or others in March.
Luck is a component, but it is never the only reason for a win or loss. Everything leading up to that moment is part of it, too.
I’m curious what would have happened if Mario had clanked that shot?
Let’s see… maybe Calipari is still at Memphis?
Maybe Self moved on because he couldn’t lift the same curse Roy had?
Or maybe Self has 2 NCs at Kansas now instead of one? The miss made him push that much harder.
Anything is possible… and all of this big news… big money going different… success of programs… it was all in the balance of one shot. Mario’s shot.
Life is the same way. When you stepped off the curb and the semi truck just missed you by a hair. Turns out the driver was eating a ham sandwich, but just happened to look over just in time to swerve away…
Who we are as people… defined when one swimmer sperm made it to the finish line a millisecond before another.
Why it is important to understand how “luck” or “fate” works is that we should all remain humble and be thankful for how life has turned out… even if our chips are down. It could always be worse!
I’ve had to endure some tough medical issues with my father. Through it all he carries a smile and just keeps saying, “things could be worse! It is better than the alternative!” We all know what the alternative is… most of all… him!
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KU/Lawrence is full of hills…and don’t forget the Flint Hills. The “hills” on that girl seem pretty substantial as well
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I totally agree that certain persons are luckier than others and that luck stream from a well spring of talent, hard work and the right mind set. But among those with those attributes a plenty, some of them are sharply luckier than others.
Greatness keeps us hanging around near the pinnacle often enough for our luck to make the difference.
At the decisive moment, it is always better to be lucky than good. ALWAYS.
Jo Jo White was good at a decisive moment, when he shot the make against Texas Western at a distance that at most goes in 40% of the time, but got called out of bounds when it went in.
Chalmers was lucky at the decisive moment, when he was the recipient of an improbable chain of events that let him throw in a shot that at most goes in 40% of the time.
Nimitz was lucky at the decisive moment at Midway.
He was great the rest of the way to Tokyo.
At the decisive moment, luck is always the preferred weapon.
Regarding your father, I will pray for him, even though it sounds as though he does not need it.
Luck and wellness are influenced by the positive thoughts of others, regardless of whether one is religious or not.
One of KU’s advantages in every game is not the bricks and mortar of Allen Field House, but the fans that fill Allen Field House and the fans that follow the team. The legacy is real. So is the living myth.
Your father is a part of it, if he wants to be through you.
Rock Chalk!
