@jaybate-1.0 I think Self thought Vick was getting lazy and it helped him to sit first, earn it. Vick also fouls a lot and then can’t play long. Svi starting, maybe hoping to get some quick 3’s starting? At least Self doesn’t give up on either one, but doesn’t have much choice. They need to step up! Not much of an answer, just guessing.

@brooksmd you running the meat!