@mayjay Just for the record Carter wasn’t a bad dude. He just had two things aganinst him. One he was way before is time on clean energy. He was trying to implent solar panels and such when oil was dirt cheap. The second I just don’t think he had the stones for foreign policy. He pretty much let Russia do what they did. Everybody points to Hilter and Germany as mass murders. Yet Russian and their gulags far exceeded anything Hilter every thought about doing. Something not you but Dems and libs don’t want to acknowledge. As detente was the flavor of libs and Dems at that time in history.