@JayHawkFanToo KU late nineties. No summer school. I’m not 100% sure if he started on the me degree his freshman year or like most students he changes his major at least once. He Graduated in four years, but he didn’t play basketball for Bill Self either. I believe most people refer to them as four year degrees because that’s what it should take, but many less demanding degrees than engineering take more than 4 years due to course correction in a teenagers life. I’m glad you were so well prepared as an 18 year old to know how and what you wanted to do. I’m nearly 40 and still haven’t figured it out. Maybe someday…