mayjay said: @jaybate-1.0 That is quite a twisted inference from my post. Let me try again, based solely on how I think about it: I suspect Cal may be dirty based on some of the people around him. I do not suspect HCBS of being dirty. If forced to conclude one way or the other, I would have to conclude there is no firm evidence of either being dirty. As to whether they themselves suspect any players of illicit benefits, I hope and assume that they would investigate any hints or evidence coming their way, and I believe we have seen that. But I do not expect them to spent all their time being forensic accountants or financial cops, or turning kids down because they made the KU choice late in the game. (Are we suspicious of Shady’s last-minute dream?) ———————————— Your response above and some of your recent previous responses made me wonder the following: 1.) Was your response convenient? 2.) Was it projecting about my post being twisted? 3.) Are you in actuality suspicious of Shady’s last-minute dream and what *firm evidence” makes you be suspicious or were your words just conveniently mentioning that? 4.) Do you have firm evidence indicating your recently claimed number of 90% of Buckets posters thinking what you claim they think regarding Cal? REGARDLESS: thanks for taking the time to “try again” to help me understand your POV “based solely on the way you think about it”. It made me wonder. And that’s good. Hang in, eventually the authorities will get this sorted out! Be of good cheer. As a layman, I have long suspected all the observable asymmetries and the likely apparently unobservable activities apparently required to enable the observable asymmetries and anomalies were likely manifestations of probably legal apparent entertainment values in operation. I strongly doubted illegal conspiracy as an explanation of very much, if anything at all. All but proven conspiracy theories are mostly for suckers IMHO. BUT…since the FBI/DOJ apparently suspect (allege? charge?) something illegal is operating, well, I am a layman willing to take a dutiful wait and see attitude, so they can do an ethical, professional job of investigation and adjudication. It saddens me to think there may be a vast illegal/criminal conspiracy that has college sports generally in its dastardly grip. I am flabbergasted that anyone suspects Bill Self could be one of its criminal masterminds, or even stooges. But the end of the Cold War and record declassifications reputedly now show the McCarthy Era, vicious and opportunistic as it reputedly was at times, turns out was apparently not totally a witch hunt. There really were communists and communist informants in our government, same as there are reputedly foreign assets and informants in high and low places today. So: I suppose it’s possible Jay Wright, Coach K, Cal and Self could all be criminally masterminding everything. It’s possible Russia, or PRC, or even tiny Israel has turned them all. But I still doubt it. Don’t you? Nevertheless, I enthusiastically support a fair, legal and ethical investigation and adjudication by the FBI/DOJ. Heck, I would even like to see a commission plus all levels of law enforcement investigate sport for the criminal and Intel money laundering I suspect could conceivably be going on in college sports betting, even though if I were forced to choose, I would probably choose that it was probably not going on. Regardless, god bless America! Rock Chalk! P.S.: And I want to applaud you for NOT using SMH!