@Kcmatt7 I’ll agree about his poor choice of words but if consistency and post season success mean anything Belein is superior to Weber IMO and it’s not close. Weber has a .03 better win percentage (could be lower by seasons end) than Belien, but he has inherited much much better programs than Belien IMO. Most of Weber’s post season success came in his first two seasons at Illinois with a Sweet 16 and a National runner up. If you take those outta the equation he has made it passed the first weekend a grant total of 2 times (1 KSU, 1 SIU) in 20 seasons of coaching (22 years is his total with the 2 at Illinois). Weber in 22 years at this level mostly at a power 5 school has a total of 4 sweet 16s, 2 elite eights and 1 FF. Belein in 27 years has made 7 sweet 16s, 5 elite eights and 2 FFs. In the regular season I’d say they are even, Weber has more conference titles but Belein I believe was hitting his stride in Michigan. That’s why I was shocked to see him leave. He had 9 tournament appearances in 12 years and was a staple in the upper half of the B10. Weber will most likely 5 for 8 for the NCAA tournament after this season at KSU and will hopefully finish dead last in the B12. I’d say Belein is average and hit his stride late, Weber can’t do jack didily crap with his own guys. I’d say he’s slightly below average because of his lack of postseason success even counting some of his best years with teams some else built. Arguably four out of five of Weber’s best years are his first two with KSU and Illinois teams that were lead by someone else recruiting and development for a few years. Without those he’s pretty much a laughing stock IMO. That’s why it was so shocking to see them tie Tech the title last season, I’ll bet that never happens again. Glad niether one is our coach at the same time lol.