@Gunman How about David Padgett? How about him? He was a good player recruited by Williams who stayed one year but wanted to play a style different than what Coach Self wanted. He left the program in good terms and never was in any trouble at KU and did well at Lousvilleā€¦so, how about him? P.S. He scored the winning basket against MU at the last game at Hearnes Center, that alone makes him gold in my book.