Putting the NCAA on Notice!



  • I grinned when I read the following:

    https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2849409-ncaa-amends-agent-rule-after-criticism-from-lebron-james-rich-paul-more

    What this told me is the NCAA may be responsive now to public criticism. They didn’t used to flinch under public scrutiny.

    I’m thinking if we get smacked with infraction penalties for their current investigations while Duke remains off their radar screen (especially after our allegation concerning Zion), we should create a large scale protest.

    KU has fans everywhere… but what is more important here, Duke is probably the most-hated team in college basketball! Every D1 fan that isn’t a Duke fan feels like Duke gets a special treatment, from on the court (refs in games), to NCAA tournament seedings, to getting a pass on recruiting allegations.

    Does anyone here think Zion’s family was NOT paid for him to attend Duke?



  • If Zion wasn’t paid I’ve got a house in Durham to sell you



  • That rule was probably not going to stand up to a possible legal challenge, and Rich Paul has the means to drag that fight out as long as the NCAA was willing to.



  • The power of Lebron. He tweets it and then Chris Paul and one other friend of Lebron’s (can’t recall whom) and 90 million people have been reached. Besides it was a accidentally racist rule made by a committee on basketball that knows nothing about the inner workings of basketball. That committee has impressive names, but they should all be fired for gross incompetence.



  • “Requiring a four-year degree accomplishes only one thing—systematically excluding those who come from a world where college is unrealistic,” Paul wrote. “Does anyone really believe a four-year degree is what separates an ethical person from a con artist?”

    With this logic do people like this believe that no job should have any requirements?



  • BigBad said:

    “Requiring a four-year degree accomplishes only one thing—systematically excluding those who come from a world where college is unrealistic,” Paul wrote. “Does anyone really believe a four-year degree is what separates an ethical person from a con artist?”

    With this logic do people like this believe that no job should have any requirements?

    There are requirements to become an agent. The NBA Player’s Association certifies all agents that work in the NBA. You can find their requirements here.

    The issue that was brought up is that Rich Paul has met all of the NBPA requirements to become an agent, but the NCAA was attempting to add additional requirements on top of what the NBPA requires.

    It makes sense to have job requirements. Being an agent has those. It just doesn’t make sense for the NCAA to add additional requirements.



  • dylans said:

    Besides it was a accidentally racist rule made by a committee on basketball that knows nothing about the inner workings of basketball.

    What? Please help me understand how the rule is accidentally racist.



  • The committee includes several prominent black men and women, so I don’t think there is anything intentional. The current agents excluded are mostly black men. (ie Rich Paul). I think it’s just poorly thought out. And now revoked.

    I find it hilarious how incompetent the committee to fix ncaa basketball is. We may not have a game to watch in 20 years at this rate.



  • HighEliteMajor said:

    dylans said:

    Besides it was a accidentally racist rule made by a committee on basketball that knows nothing about the inner workings of basketball.

    What? Please help me understand how the rule is accidentally racist.

    I assume he means the disparate impact standard, which I believe you and I agree is garbage. The newish thing is to declare anything that adversely affects minorities more than whites is “structural racism.” Since Rich Paul is black, the disparate impact standard would theoretically apply.



  • I should’ve said is being touted as unintentionally racist. I don’t give a f$&k.



  • I wonder… I wonder… how much damage is caused by overplaying the race card? I think minorities sometimes are avoided because of the fear that a race card will be played, and the fear is coming from very non-racist people but they fear they will make some kind of communication goof that will land them in the doghouse.

    I’m a person of color and I feel free to discuss this in here. Does everyone in here feel comfortable talking about race? Doubtful… and understandably so.

    And when people feel repressed it is likely resentment will follow. Just ask any person of color.



  • @drgnslayr

    It seems to me that you (people) can’t talk to anyone without fear of some sort of retribution. People have lost their minds. We can’t talk about race, politics, religion. We can’t talk to or about the opposite sex. We can’t talk about handicapped people, athletes, military. We can’t talk about anything or anyone without someone throwing out the “Oh boo hoo, I’m offended, you’re trying to belittle me” card.

    I am so ready to buy my own private island (am currently taking donations…) and be apart from all the crazies.

    My only requirements are A/C and television. And a nice comfy mattress. Kind of like an upscale versison of Naked and Afraid. I hope that doesn’t offend anyone.



  • @nuleafjhawk

    If you find your island maybe I can be your neighbor on a nearby island? We will invest in a big satellite dish together so we can still watch Jayhawk ball!



  • @drgnslayr Maybe minorities do hurt themselves quite often by overplaying the race card. That being said, though, the Rich Paul Rule (and that is what it was) was dumb and elitest, to say the least. To say that you need a four-year degree to be an agent is like saying that you need to go to college in order to sale Avon… Please…



  • @drgnslayr NO WAY. You can be on my island!! Therefore, our island.



  • drgnslayr said:

    If you find your island maybe I can be your neighbor on a nearby island? We will invest in a big satellite dish together so we can still watch Jayhawk ball!

    Better stay clear of Zenger Island or blackout dates may apply. Wait, can I say “blackout” anymore? 😳



  • @tis4tim PTSD setting in bringing up that name…



  • dylans said:

    @tis4tim PTSD setting in bringing up that name…

    I felt filthy just typing it. Too soon. My apologies @dylans. I think I need a shower.



  • Hahahhahahaaa… now this is the jovial attitude we all need! If the world crumbles, the world crumbles. As long as our season schedule isn’t interrupted…



  • @drgnslayr

    I think race played a role in the reaction to the “Rich Paul” rule, but not in the normal way. Normally, a minority with no college degree would not have the power/money/influence to speak out against this sort of thing.

    Rich Paul does, so it throws a wrinkle into the normal power dynamic because people aren’t used to a person like him being able to push back against a big institution like the NCAA, and people are especially not used to a person like him being able to push back against an institution like that and win.

    I don’t think what the NCAA did was racist. More just poorly thought out and vetted. They listened to people in the industry, some of whom have an agenda against Rich Paul because he is competition, so cutting him out of a lucrative part of the market is a money decision. However, had this been vetted more carefully, the entire decision/fallout could have been avoided.



  • @justanotherfan

    Good post.

    The degree rule also impacts non-minority agents.

    I know this ends up becoming an issue going into the finer details where statistics end up being the reason it becomes “racial” and it is concluded that minorities are impacted in a higher percentage than non-minorities.

    I definitely believe sometimes rules and such like this are put in place to intentionally impact minorities in higher rates. I also believe that many times these things do not have intention behind them (like this NCAA rule) and we (as a society) have to decide where the line is drawn because you can extend statistics use and inject it into every element in life.

    It’s nice to keep emotions down and talk about things openly. It’s the best way to get to a positive understanding/resolution!



  • @drgnslayr There were two black guys working next to each other in the office where I work, and one of the guys excelled, while the other one struggled. The one that struggled would always call for help from the manager, and the other always handled his deals from start to finish. I tried to encourage the guy that was struggling, but he told me that the customers were just too racist, and wouldn’t buy from a black man. I friended the struggling guy on Facebook, and got bombarded with a daily dose of racial injustices ( real or perceived ) that he furiously posted for hours at a time. I think both gentlemen found what they were looking for - Brandon found racial injustice in a world he perceived as unjust and unfair, and the successful guy got promoted to manager. Tim made bank, and Brandon posts on Facebook. Injustice is always there to be found if that’s what you’re looking for.



  • @KUSTEVE It’s never the failures fault that he fails, is it? 😝 my dad’s advise for pretty much everything - Figure it out.



  • KUSTEVE said:

    @drgnslayr There were two black guys working next to each other in the office where I work, and one of the guys excelled, while the other one struggled. The one that struggled would always call for help from the manager, and the other always handled his deals from start to finish. I tried to encourage the guy that was struggling, but he told me that the customers were just too racist, and wouldn’t buy from a black man. I friended the struggling guy on Facebook, and got bombarded with a daily dose of racial injustices ( real or perceived ) that he furiously posted for hours at a time. I think both gentlemen found what they were looking for - Brandon found racial injustice in a world he perceived as unjust and unfair, and the successful guy got promoted to manager. Tim made bank, and Brandon posts on Facebook. Injustice is always there to be found if that’s what you’re looking for.

    Sounds like Brandon needs reparations.


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