Iowa State Cyclones



  • Kansas will travel to Ames Saturday for the early game at 11am once again, this time the game is on Fox Sports Net. Talk about 2 teams on the complete opposite end of the spectrum. ISU is coming off their biggest upset ever with a win last week in Norman with a 3rd string QB no less. Kansas of course was lit up bye Tech in what would be their 4th straight double digit loss. Matt Campbell has done extremely well in year number 2 in Ames. Some crazy things to think about regarding Campbell vs Zenger hires. Kansas under Weis and Beaty has combined to go 5-54 vs FBS competition while Campbell in just his second season already has 5 and with a win Saturday can make it 6, Kansas also has just 2 B12 victories in under those coaches, Campbell looks to double that with a win Saturday. Now I’ll agree that Campbell inherited a better deal than Beaty but Beaty has a year longer tenure. Beaty announced that KU is within one or two of the scholarship limit so let’s not use that excuse. Now here’s the kicker ISU came to Lawrence a year and escaped a tight game with a win that Kansas controlled the majority of but let slip away late with 2 second half turnovers. ISU returns one more starter than Kansas and 2 less letter winners from a year ago. But seems to be light years ahead of Kansas and this the prime example of why Beaty isn’t the answer. We are gonna line up with mostly the same core players as last year and get blown to pieces. It is unknown at this point as to who will start at QB for both clubs as senior Kempt lead ISU to victory a week ago while the usual starter Park was injured. Kansas switched to Stanley late in the first half over Bender last week for a Kansas. I personally would go with Bender, I think he gives us the best shot to win. ISUs has improved greatly from last year, letting up 70 yards and 10 points less per contest and we know that Kansas will give very little resistance defensively. I say KU may a slim chance if ISU has a hang over on a early game but highly doubt they could pull off a win baring creating 5+ turnovers like Texas a year ago, maybe even more being on the road. I believe this loss will tie the all time road losing streak at 45. ISU rolls as 4 QBs play and 10 tight ends get in the game for the clones. ISU 55 KU 27



  • I’ve kinda not really messed with prediction time here as of late. I’m sorry but between just a select few of us doing and how disappointing we have been this year it’s tough to wanna think about football but the bare minimum that allows me to watch us look like a middle school JV volleyball managers club trying to play football.



  • @kjayhawks Just so you know, I get real discouraged about the team, so it is hard to gin up something to write about from this distance (except for attempted wry comments because laughing is better than crying). But I really do appreciate your discussiions and analyses. It is always nice to see youthful optimism, and the info gives me things to look for on the occasions I can catch a game here deep in SEC country!

    Close game. ISU 21, KU 15.



  • KU 42 ISU 35

    nothin to lose



  • Sorry to say but I’m just at a point where I see another ugly game - -If ISU is putting up 38 pts on Oklahoma at Oklahoma with a 3rd string QB making his 1st start in his College career - - then I’m afraid we could very easily looking at another 50 point put up against us. - -I’d have to say Iowa State 53 - -KU 28. - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY



  • It’s quite discouraging to be a three TD dog to IState, but good for them. Maybe our coaches will learn something. I’m hoping IState suffers a hangover from the upset of OU and we pull the upset this week.



  • KU doing the types of things bad teams do right now.

    Get a stop. Muff a punt, give the ball right back.

    Force a 3 and out. Immediately throw a pick, give the ball right back.

    Instead of getting the ball at midfield, KU basically gave ISU 75 yards of field position to gift ISU 7 points.



  • Why is Quan Hampton allowed to play in these conditions? He can’t even hang on to the ball in perfect weather, so why is he playing in rain?



  • Stiop giving Hampton the ball, it’s just a matter of time before he coughs it up again.



  • Sims?



  • ISU only gained 31 yards in the first quarter, lol.



  • Could we at least experiment with the water or towel boy… The sclsu mud dogs were a better program for it



  • @cragarhawk SCLSU didn’t experiment with the towel boy. Michigan did and ran into a laundry list of problems.



  • @cragarhawk maybe a cheerleader?



  • Let me say this - -Let me make myself perfectly clear about these things : - -# 1 - -This team flat out SUCKS. & # 2 - -We are looking at a Coach that because of his bull headiness is a lame duck Coach. - This Coach is just damn stubborn that he refuses to yank that piece of Crap Bender out. Oh he will pull him when were down like 41-0 THEN put Stanley in and of Course there will be no way ANY QB could bring you back form that - - then Beaty will say in his post conference that Stanley didn’t get the job done and we will be right back with this piece of crap again next week. Let me say this ONE MORE TIME. - - If you think Peyton Bender is the Answer should be our starting QB - - then all I have to say to you is Let me have some of that shit your smoking because you got some damn good shit. -I need some of it too.

    This slugo can’t move his decision making is just beyond crazy almost ANOTHER PICK - -I swear I think this kid has more INT’S then completions. - -Before you come at me with the line You trying to tell me Carter is better? - -I would simply have to come back at you with - -he SURE THE HELL ain’t any worse. - - But yet - -there stands Beaty - -just keep sending this guy right back out there. - -OMG like 35 yds of offense in a half - -give me a fricking break.

    You really can’t ask much more out of the defense today considering the position they have been put in.

    I’m tellin you right now at this point there is NO WAY IN HELL we hang on to these prize recruits from Louisiana at this point. - This team is so damn hard to watch makes me sick. - We can’t put a better product on the fields then this? - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY



  • Seriously. Pull 11 random ppl off the street and have them play Iron man un coached… They would do better by shear and complete accident



  • @jayballer54 I do not know what kind of result everyone expects, when with a few exceptions sprinkled here and there, we are basically using pretty good JuCo players against D1 players every week. Then throw in the incompetence of the coaches and we are fighting a losing battle. Things will not improve until we find people that can bring more skilled players into the battle.

    It all comes down to execution on each and every play, both on offense and defense. I would think that some of the blame for that lack of execution lies with the coaching, but a lot of it has to do with the skill set of the players. Until that scenario changes, we will be a one or two win team every year. Breaks my heart, as I want so badly to have a competitive team and put fans back in the stands on Saturdays. Sucks to be the laughing stock of all the entire college football teams.



  • @Big-Clyde52 I keep watching!



  • Too many issues with this team to list them all. I don’t think Beaty should be fired yet though.



  • KU should be playing a dual threat athlete at QB right now. The line isn’t ready to protect a pro style drop back guy. You have to have a guy that is ready and able to run and make plays with his legs.



  • @Crimsonorblue22 So do I. It just puts a pit in my gut because I want so bad for these guys to have success. BShark I am afraid you are right. Just gut wrenching to go thru this every weekend. SAD.



  • So painful! But I will support the players



  • @Crimsonorblue22 Good on you. Me also. I am sure you are like a lot of us that is so tired of the jokes and snide remarks every week. But we must keep the faith.



  • justanotherfan said:

    KU should be playing a dual threat athlete at QB right now. The line isn’t ready to protect a pro style drop back guy. You have to have a guy that is ready and able to run and make plays with his legs.

    Amen



  • justanotherfan said:

    KU should be playing a dual threat athlete at QB right now. The line isn’t ready to protect a pro style drop back guy. You have to have a guy that is ready and able to run and make plays with his legs.

    agrees. - - BUT you think we are going to see him? - -hell no. - -we have a coach that is digging his own grave. - -I want someone to try and justify to me WHY we have a guy that is 8/19 for EIGHTEEN YARDS FOR THE GAME ! ! ! why do we have him as our starting QB? A guy that has more INT’S then TD’S ? - -yet that dual QB that was suppose to be the perfect fit for this umm quote in quote - -Air Raid offense STANDS on the side lines?

    wouldn’t you think that MAYBE oh I don’t know just MAYBE you might want to at least ONCE try and stretch the field at least make an attempt to throw it futher then 3 yds down the filed? - But yet on the other hand with the guy that’s back there that’s a sure INT. - I don’t know about you BUT getting pretty sick and tired of watching 61-19 games 38 -0 games always looking at 30 point plus blow outs. - -Is it possible to be worse then w were last year? - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY



  • This offense makes Bender look bad but at the same time he isn’t great. Not sure KU has a good QB on the roster, but we will never really know due to the oline.

    @jayballer54 Can’t throw downfield if you can’t pass protect fam.



  • @BShark Bender is an average at best QB and so is Stanley.



  • @jayballer54

    I would prefer we keep it civil and do go on calling KU players a piece of crap. I am sure Bender is doing the best he can within his obvious limitations. Take it on the coaching staff, they make the big bucks and are responsible for this fiasco but the players deserve at least some respect. Just my personal opinion and you can take for what it’s worth.



  • BShark said:

    This offense makes Bender look bad but at the same time he isn’t great. Not sure KU has a good QB on the roster, but we will never really know due to the oline.

    @jayballer54 Can’t throw downfield if you can’t pass protect fam. OK,- - sooo, Bender isn’t great - -Stanley isn’t great - -so NEXT man up - - Starks - -Period. o o wasting away on the sideline. - -ALL we heard or read was how starks was the perfect dual option QB for the offense - -can’t be perfect if he can’t get the chance on the field. - What we going to lose at this point? -sure in the hell can’t be any worse. - -Bender makes Bender look bad - -just pitiful decision making - -today just another example 8/19 -18 yds? - -Overthrows but big margin - -bounces passes in front of receivers typical day - -the only time he completes passes is to the other team.



  • @JayHawkFanToo Ya and I’m not usually this hard either - -ALOT of frustration built up - -week after week after week - -I’m sure he has heard ALOT worse believe that. - -ONE thing I won’t back off of is and you don’t have a leg to stand on with him is - -this kid has not proven ONE THING period. - Sure the Oline is bad - -but damn come on he is so bad on his passes he throws a lot more bad then he does good. - -Just one example out of many is how you miss someone WIDE open in the end zone who is 6-6 Bostick I could go on and on and on with his throws - -decision making. - -But look I’m not going to bring this to a war of words or badgering back and forth. I’m just stating - -your making your statements. - -Bottom line - -Bender isn’t squat - -Stanley maybe no either - -But why at this point in time when either or both has had ample opportunity - -WHY should Starks now have his turn? - -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY



  • One thing in this game is - -You can’t really dog on the defense today. - -They did respectable. - -I mean ok yep 45 pts - BUT look at what they have had to work with. - -Muffed snaps - -bad snaps - -interception - -fumbles half a field to defend , a offense that can’t get ONE yard on multiple occasions - Why do we STILL continue to throw these little screen flare passes two yds backwards where the defense is almost there before our attended receiver catches the Ball? - -Today is not on the Defense



  • Texas Hawk 10 said:

    @BShark Bender is an average at best QB and so is Stanley.

    Agree but oline makes them look putrid.



  • @jayballer54 Don’t see Starks being any good, but if he is it is a huge indictment on this coaching staff for not evaluating properly.



  • I really don’t know what to say about how bad we looked today. Just when you thought the offense looked improved. The defense did okay forr what they was dealt but goodness. It’s crazy to watch even tho I predicted it but ISU blowing us away with most the same team in a tight one a year ago. Where is the progress?



  • I feel sorry for the players. I think they’re trying hard, but every game we shoot ourselves in both feet in the first quarter. Sometimes D, sometimes the O and today special teams. Start off down 2 or 3 TDs and there’s no way to execute any kind of plan. Then it’s downhill from there.



  • @DanR Offense was much more responsible today than special teams. The offense didn’t reach 100 yards for the game until their final drive in the 4th quarter.



  • @jayballer54

    My point is not how good or bad they are, if they would be 5 or 4 or even 3 stars the would likely be playing somewhere else. These kids are playing their hearts out within their limitations and they deserve a little respect from their fellow Jayhawks. You would not call your own kid names because, even when trying his best, he is not good enough to compete against more talented players, would you? This is all I am sayin’…



  • @DanR @Texas-Hawk-10

    It is apparent that we just don’t have the players…or coaching staff…to be competitive in the conference. Yes, the conference as a whole is better than last year but our team is not even a good as it was and it seems headed in the wrong direction. At this point I am not sayin KU should be winning but it should at least be competitive and a 45 point pasting at ISU indicates it is not.

    Oh well…at least we have a kickass basketball program.



  • @JayHawkFanToo I strongly disagree, ISU doesn’t h ave better athletes than we do. We can’t make simple plays that should be routine for most football players. Look at both teams rosters right now, I’d bet money KU has more players that make a NFL roster than ISU. I bet Wise, Armstrong, Dineen, Lee and Hidjeni (misspelled o lineman) all make an NFL roster while one defensive back and Lazard make it for ISU. These are the same core players as a year ago. ISU is developing players and KU clearly isn’t.



  • @kjayhawks Armstrong and maybe Lee are NFL talents on KU’s roster and that’s it. Adeniji is way too small to be an NFL lineman. Wise will get a training camp invite and that’s probably it. I don’t even see Dineen really getting a look because of his size.



  • I am guessing my prediction of a close game was accurate only to the extent that the two teams usually were near each other on the field.



  • That one is gonna leave a mark.



  • @kjayhawks

    …and…this is why I wrote players, not athletes. KU has decent athletes who have not yet developed into players.



  • BShark said:

    @jayballer54 Don’t see Starks being any good, but if he is it is a huge indictment on this coaching staff for not evaluating properly.

    HA that’s good lol. - -The other two just tearing it up on the field? - -lmao - Like I said he sure the hell isn’t any worse, If he wasn’t Any good then why did Coach about wet. all over himself saying multiple - - multiple times this is the guy that we was looking for to run this offense;

    His turn has come - -sure the hell isn’t going to do any worse -But let’s not give him a shot - -I get it lets just let him rot away on the side. - How do you know he isn’t any good if he doesn’t get game time snaps? - -things that make you go hmmmmmmm. - - ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY



  • @JayHawkFanToo - -OK THANKS -figure even though some I won’t say who think I’m always looking to be obnoxious - -looking to argue be un-considerate - be did respectful -which that’s not what I am doing - -BUT these kids have heard FAR FAR worse in the locker rooms - been called a whole hell of a lot worse by their own friends. - -

    Waiting for it to come - -this is going to be locked up soon – - these kids handle them with kid gloves oh let’s not hurt their feelings - Sorry that not whats coming from me. - You ever hear if it walks like a duck - -and it talks like a duck - -then it’s probably - -A DUCK. Ok ready? - - - Lock it UP - -that’s a wrap I’m on to other things - - READY - - GO – -ROCK CHALK ALL DAY LONG BABY



  • @Texas-Hawk-10 we’ll see but I stick to what I said. @JayHawkFanToo if only our staff developed players.



  • Don’t we all know it by now: Beaty isn’t the guy to bring back our winning football program. I give credit to Coach Meacham for his work improving our offense in the games before IState. But, every other aspect of our program has gotten worse, much worse. Both line coaches must go right now. I like Beaty as a person. He and his staff made progress in the recruiting area. But on the field, which is the only thing that matters, our Jayhawks are a joke. Beaty’s comment about needing some tough players is telling: our lines are not tough enough to compete. I suspect the reason our players aren’t tough enough is because our coaches aren’t tough enough. We need new line coaches today and a new head coach by summer.



  • Beaty is underwhelming, but he still needs 5-6 years to be given a true shot. He started in such a hole the first year shouldn’t count against him and the next recruiting class finally looks decent. The problem is, the on the field product isn’t improving very quickly and we all have the desire to see it fixed now!



  • dylans said:

    Beaty is underwhelming, but he still needs 5-6 years to be given a true shot. He started in such a hole the first year shouldn’t count against him and the next recruiting class finally looks decent. The problem is, the on the field product isn’t improving very quickly and we all have the desire to see it fixed now!

    ^^^^

    Tough decision but I agree with this timeframe.



  • @dylans Been my position all along. Even if Beaty never improves the W-L record, he still needs 5 years to bring the scholarship numbers in line for whoever is coach in 2020. He started in such a hole that it’s going to take a full 5 year recruiting cycle just to get to a full deck. Give him that time, evaluate then, if he’s shown enough progress, keep him and if not, then bring in someone else. That someone else will at least have a full roster of players to develop going forward.


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